I think at 21-22 you are old enough to take responsibilty for yourself and know that there are other, healthier, ways to deal with stree. It all sounds like a huge cop-out to me. Time for Lindsay to grow up.

well well..look at here of course not...how old is too old to know whats right and whats wrong?

pfffff!!!!!

They aren't responsible for her recent behavior, but they did set a foundation with major cracks in it. Don't get me wrong Linds should now know better, but lets not forget that her mom has been pimping her out since her freckled face Disney days. He pops well he's no price either I'm sure he's guilty of a little daughter pimping for profit combine that with being famous/rich at an early age and that equal disaster!

basty, I agree.

I don't think that their idiocy was particularly helpful when she was a bit younger, but at this point in her life she's quite old enough to realize what's damaging, what's not, and what she needs to do to clean herself up and get her life and her career back together. I do still think they're responsible for not giving her a solid foundation, but she's ultimately responsible for herself now.

All of this family disgust me. They're ripe for a "Mommy Dearest"-style tell-all.

Her parents and the environment they created around her and her siblings DO have a part to play in Lindsey's current problems and issues. But not the whole blame, as Lindsey herself must take responsibility for her choices in life and the non-family members she has chosen to surround herself with.

Honestly, besides another good stint in rehab (just to play safe) Lindsey should also take the time to go into therapy to learn how to deal with her childhood environment, her upbringing as a child star and with her parents and family in a healthy manner. As well as learn how to figure out who are healthy people to have around her. Because frankly, I don't think her parents know how themselves, and therefore were incapable of passing on that kind of knowledge to her.

While the foundations of her issues do lie on the doorstep of her parents, it's up to Lindsey to take back her life, from them, from their demands, from questionable people, from her own poor choices, and learn to live like an adult.

"While the foundations of her issues do lie on the doorstep of her parents, it's up to Lindsey to take back her life, from them, from their demands, from questionable people, from her own poor choices, and learn to live like an adult."

good point historymystery..a very good point!!

Thanks justingirl.

Yes, historymystery, you said all, and all well.

I don't think she has a solid base within herself. It seems as though she was raised by people who are more interested in serving their own interests than guiding and setting a solid foundation for their children. Being raised by these kind of parents doesn't make for a grounded, respectful, or organized sense of self. So, though I think that she is an adult and is responsible for her own actions, I think she's handicapped by her upbringing and will have an especially hard time trying to create a life for herself in which she feels successful in her work and relationships. I feel for her, and all of the other young women in hollywood who were shoved in to the limelight at such a young age. I hope they find their way and are able to find a healthy contentment in their lives.

I agree with many of the previous post, but really without knowing how to be normal or seeing normal behaviour, she can't know how to take the next steps. Her parents did not raise her so now she is behind on how to be a functioning adult.

She's been the money maker in that family since she was 10 if not younger, up until she went into rehab had a mom who wanted to party with her and excused everything that happen as that's what normal teens do/college kids do.

It's a shame to me but she is going to have to go the path of Drew and Brooke Sheilds and remove the parent from being in the business of making money off her. Then she can decide if she wants to deal with her parents or if they are just too toxic.
I think Jodie did that also but can't remember.

I agree -- bottom line, Lindsay is an adult, and is responsible for own behavior. When it comes to her own behavior, the buck stops with her.

Having said that, the matter is -- does SHE realize that?? Lindsay is in her twenties, and for many people, that period is basically protracted adolescence. And it can be a rough transition. The sooner Lindsay learn some valuable lessons to protect her emotional and mental health, the better off she will be, as her parents seem toxic (I regret to say). Hitting the bottle is not the way.

I wish her well.

You can't always blame things on your parents (even if they are a handful)

If she's still thinking about who's to blame it's no surprise she's still struggling. It's her life and it is in her responsibility if she wants to mess it up even more or start the recovery. She's an adult, no matter how messed up your childhood has been, everyone should take the chances life offers you equally.
She can't change her childhood nor can she change her parents but she can change herself and there lies the only way for happiness.

while she is an adult and should be able to make up her own mind and know right from wrong, there is the fact that a lot of times our perception of right and wrong is formed in our childhood and from the things our parents teach us. if her parents did not set a good example or teach her well- and if she had know other parental type role models to look towards while growing up, her sense of what is correct and appropriate could be skewed. i mean seeing how her mother parties and acts like a 20 year old- what kind of example is that for lindsay. her mother has probably been acting like that for years- back when lindsay was younger and more impressionable. does lindsay have the ability to act for herself and change? yes- but she needs to surround herself with positive influences and actually take charge of her own life- and stop using her parents actions as excuses. cut them off and move on.

Her parents did give her a pretty bad childhood and all they have ever seemed concerned with is fame and money, but she is definitely old enough to know better at this point. How many more times does she want her mug shot broadcast to the world? She needs to leave LA for a good chunk of time and figure herself out. At this point no one takes her seriously. I hope she doesn't think an Oscar's in her future at all.

Sometimes though, that's the hardest thing to realize. There are people out there who go through their entire lives without realizing that, and given the people around her, it would seem that no one is telling her all the very wise words we're saying.

i wouldn't put all the blame on her parents. she's an adult, she's gotta learn to be responsible for herself. but i can't imagine having cuckoo parents helps either.

I would say it's a mixture of her parents, her friends (Paris?) and the place she lives, really. She's a New Yorker at heart, but she's been in LA for a while now, and that is hardly the best place to be. That is where all the clubs are, all the 'people' she needs to 'smooze' with... LA is the Hollywood and film industry hotspot. Ego, drugs and alcohol are rife. That could mess anyone up.

I agree with whoever said that she should get some therapy.

Yes and No. Back when they needed to discipline her (toddler/childhood years) and show her the proper way to behave in society, I don't think they did. They just encouraged her passion for acting and let the parenting fall by the wayside - - so yeah, they failed her way back when. Now, she's an adult making poor choices - - that's not her parents fault, that is ALL Lindsay.

Keep in mind her father's an alcoholic. That plus no parental supervision, a mom who thinks the spotlight is a god, and I'd say this girl was doomed.

If she had friends half as intelligent, compassionate, and realistic as you guys are about her situation she would have a much better chance.

But what irritates me about her and makes it very difficult for me to feel sorry for her at all is the fact that she has had multiple wake-up calls and multiple chances to get her life back together, and not taken true advantage of any of those. It seems to me that she really doesn't care very much about turning things around (and yes, that is a part of her environment, which can't be particularly invested in her true recovery), or else she might spend a bit more time working, and working on herself, and a bit less time shopping and passing out in cars.

She knows what shes doing

Oh, and also--good Lord, is it necessary for her to drink until she's in that condition? I mean, lots of us like to get our drink on, but I think most of us tend to stop before reaching the blackout stage...

who really cares about this girl at this point? Ill be surpised if she makes it to 25.

As Homer Simpson once said. "Alcohol. The cause of, and solution too, all of life's problems."

People who drink themselves into that state are actually using booze to blot out whatever their problems are. It's a temporary solution and a dangerous one.

The parents are partly to blame as are her friends but mostly it's her fault.

Her mom and dad certainly are not, and never have been, doing right by their children. They are self-absorbed, emotionally stunted individuals and by now Lindsay knows this about both of them.
But at this stage of the game Lindsay is in charge of herself. I think she is struggling without a strong support system, and chances of her fully recovering were nill. She really needed a large support net, and she just does not have one. She isn't ready to rely solely on herself, plus she is having a hard time figuring out who that is in the first place. Her sexuality issues (seeming promiscuity with men, but a clear attraction to at least one woman) confirm that.
Bottom line is she's on her own in two demanding and crazy cities (LA and NYC), and her chances don't look great. I actually feel for her.

the issues she has are because of her parents, but she's an adult now and has to take responsibility for getting healthy. 99% of those who become addicts as teens keep using throughout their lives. add to that her being a public personality and enough money to fund her habit and i'd say her chance of recovery is almost non-existant.

I mean I think it's a combination. I agree completely with lickety-split. So many people do become addicts even though they have a great family life, but I think that the fact that she has a crazy family life doesn't help.

I'm also going to go out on a limb to say this photo doesn't show us everything. It's possible she was really exhausted after a night of partying also. Not like that is a good thing either, but one photo from one night doesn't tell us everything about her. She has to take it day by day and it's not really our place to judge a slip-up since we're not really involved with her recovery...

Huh

Nobody's human waste! I don't care how many chances this girl has had, you don't write someone off. She, however, has written her self off, I think, and that is the problem. Whatever she's done or whatever happened to her to steer her onto this course can be reversed, recovered, and redeemed. She need help and she needs to want help, but I don't see any such love around her.

She had a horrid foundation growing up, but now she is in charge of her actions; however, I would argue that she will be having a tough time due to the environment she grew up in. Not saying she's innocent by any means, just that she didn't have a fair, honest start.

She's almost 22. She can make her own decisions.

I think she is responsible for her own actions.

I think it's a little of both. Her parents have been a problem for many years, which did not help in her formative years. But, she has been in rehab and one of the things they teach you is to take responsibility for your own actions. She obviously cannot change the way her parents act, but she can change the way she deals with them and make sure that she takes a better path than them. She also needs to choose better in the friend department. Another lesson in rehab - stay away from old friends who can lead you back to old habits. I really do wish her the best. She is a really good actress and does deserve another chance. People need to stop being so negative towards her.

let her drink and cocaine herself _________(fill in blank)....at this point should we really care? does she even care? NO...so let's allow saddle bags to enjoy her crack and jack daniels

While issues stemming from her parents can be hurtful, she has to grow up and take responsiblity for her actions & issues.

Psychologically, she'll always have problems because of her parents, so there will always be blame on them for her misbehavior. Although, I think that Samantha girl is bad news in terms of influence on Lindsay.

I'm not sure what to think about how parents affect a person and their lifestyle choices. Some people who have the worst parents ever turn out just great, and people have great parents turn out to be like Lindsay Lohan. So you never know.

anyone who has had a drug or alcohol problem, and recovered from it will tell you that the first step to recovery is taking responsibilty for your own actions, and to stop blaming your problems on everyone else.

I just wonder if her drinking problem is making her sleep with women, or if her desire to sleep with women is why she has a drinking problem. Either way, she seriously needs to have a chat with Leif Garrett and arrest this drama and get back to work before it's too late.

as someone who is actually in recovery i stopped blaming my parents when i finally decided to accept responsibility for my disease and get help, 11+ years sober and living a happy kick ass life. At some point it can no longer be about blame folks (even if they are f*cktards) if you actually want to get better. IMHO.

SIDE NOTE---all of them are addicts. it is hereditary.
f*cktard mom= cocaine/alcohol/pills
f*cktard dad= cocaine/alcohol/pills
lindsay= started with alcohol, cocaine, other pharmex, than the unlucky girl discovered hillbilly heroin (OXY) and here she is. by the looks of her even in rehab they either had her on methadone or let her stay on the pills for the pain.

the pain should have been in parenthesis

Of course her parents are being guilty because they should stop fighting or lindsay won't get better and will loose her capacity of being sober, it's an addiction that is very hard and her parents should give her more support, i'm not saying they don't care but sometimes they really look like they don't have a daughter of 21 years old, and also she has age but she's not an old woman to control herself like adults...she needs support!!!

It's a yes and no..they set bad examples for her to live on, and stress from the family definitely leads to something like drinking to forget about it! BUT, she is old enough to know that that can't solve all of her problems, and she can surround herself with better people to help her do the right things.

Her parents set a bad example, and built the foundation for her problems, but she's almost 22 and has been to rehab 3 times. It's time for her to take responsibility for her actions.

She's going to wind up back in rehab, jail or dead at this rate. Sad.

UGH I hate to see her like this.