when i visited ireland last summer, we went to a farm where they sheared a sheep for the tourists. the animal screamed with terror when it was separated, and it had bloddy gashes on it when it was done. and the already-sheared others also had scars and scabs on them.

it's not pleasant for the animals.

I think it's always commendable when people use their power and influence to try to persuade people to change their behavior if they believe it is harmful. BUT, to go around calling people a b*tch because they don't conform to your ideas is the very antithesis of free speech and free will. They can lobby the politicians to try to change the law or outlaw fur, but while it is legal it is still a CHOICE. This is why people think the PETA people are a bunch of nuts.

And next up boycott milk dont want to hurt the 's
@@ Im sorry I guess Im just a firm believer in the fact that some animals were put on this earth for our use. Every creature has a purpose in life and well some are to fill our bellys and to clothe our backs. Now Im not advocating slaughtering animals for fur but geeze.

Sorry i'm not w/ her on that point..it only happens a few times god she gotta stop her nonsense controversy!!!ok for fur,it is proven & obvious that's bad...but WOOL???....plus if she's so against the mistreat of animals she gotta stop eating it!grrrr i hate hypocrits & she's one of them...Ppl really gotta think be4 talking
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Next we have to stop putting some cream on our skin bc they r tested on animals???then we'll have to stop putting some makeup on (which she has on btw).....f*cking nonsense!
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as long as there are alternatives to using/killing/testing/eating animals, i will be on PETA's side.

animals are NOT put here for us to use as we see fit.

"We are called to treat them with kindness, not because they have rights or power or some claim to equality, but in a sense because they don't; because they all stand unequal and powerless before us"

M. Scully, from the book "Dominion, The Power of Man, The Suffering of Animals, and the Call to Mercy"

@ Frenchunion,Pink is a vegetarian!

So what are animals put here for? To eat each other sh*t and look pretty?

Somebody call peta that lion totally mutilated that gazelle!Im just being funny yall dont hang you noose yet.

Her face looks thinner...anyway that's cool what she does.But yeah doesn't need to call Beyoncé a b*tch,perfect way to alienate people against you and your cause...

I have a question,please answear me...is it ok to eat dogs and cats?

french, what is reflexion????

i agree with babsee, as long as there are other alternatives, there is no reason (nor is it our right) to abuse animals to fit our needs.4

all that said, pink's hair is so not cute here.

toxic, i do understand your point however those animals are naturally born meat eaters and hunters. humans are not. for one, look at our teeth--they are not the teeth of carnivores. We need knifes to even be able to eat the meat, and we had to (over time) learn how to make weapons to even be able to kill animals--we are not able to do so using only what god (or whatever you believe in) gave us (unlike other carnivorous animals).

i might add that there are no other animals on this earth that drink the milk of another animal or rip off the skin or fur for fashion or conduct tests on other animals for beauty products.

I think Pink looks like a sheep......no actually a ram.....no actually a bull......

Well said, Katgoddess. Our stomachs can't even digest raw meat well, which probably indicates that our early human ancestors were probably 100 percent vegetarian until we learned to cook and season meat. Humans are not natural meat eaters, most of our teeth are flat....like plant eaters. I'm slowly taking all meat out of my diet and replacing it with nuts and soy...an even better source for protein. Here's an excellent article that points out how humans are NOT meat eaters.

http://www.celestialhealing.net/physicalveg3.htm

I admire PETA. Sometimes you have to be radical in order for people to focus on a worthy cause. I don't understand humans who have this superior attitude as if animals don't have the same right as we do to lead dignified, pain free lives. As for Pink name-calling, well it's not right, but sometimes when people continue to be so apathetic and uncaring about animal rights, you just can't help but be angry.

Just my humble opinion.

babsee: dominion is a great & important book; i'm glad you mentioned it.

our random opinions here aren't meaningful in the least; it's our thoughts that matters; the way we listen and wrestle with facts; our ability to question ourselves; and the alignment between our ideas, values and behaviors. if we can explore space, understand particle physics, unlock the mysteries of disease, we certainly can figure out how to kill animals humanely for food and clothing (if that even seems relevant in our 21st century). that we don't do it humanely is a failure of will and imagination; it's denial (the research is abundant abt how wrong we've been around the feelings and minds of animals); and it's abt profit margin, volume & absurd levels of want (not need). i think in some way we all sense we live as hypocrites anymore, prioritizing in such a way & rationalizing it that we're just getting smaller & uglier inside and toward each other as a result.

27, you are so right. We have robots on Mars, but we can't fathom that meat eating and wearing the skins of animals is something our pre-historic ancestors did.

good for her...humans arent supposed to eat meat, our bodies werent even made to digest cow milk...i support people who support causes they believe in but PETA has done some shady sh*t so i dont think they are the most reptuable agency to work with...i love pink's hair she rocks it.

"stay far from timid, only make moves when your hearts in it and live the phrase sky's the limit."

I don't know if humans are animals eaters,i don't know why animals are on this hearth,all i know is that they do feel physical and mental pain and knowing that prevents me to eat them or use their fur.That's why could never eat beef,veal,dogs,cats,rabbits,tigers,lions,zebras,sheep,rats whatever....you name it.

Katgoddess, although I do not ever agree with almost any of your opinions I LOVE your icon, so adorable!!! Meow!

We are also the only "animals" on earth with the brains smart enough to figure out how to feed ourselves and make tools and weapons and clothing to the degree we do. We should take advantage of that brainpower though and figure out ways to care for the other animals while still using resources they might be able to provide for us.

Why not campaign for safer wool shearing processes and try to improve that so that you are not trying to crush the entire clothing industry, which will NOT happen. Just make it safer. That is possible for the little sheepies.

Oh, man. Having seen the video and given the fact I've lived on a farm for roughly half my life (HOLY SNOT! Half my life? How did I get this old?) I can tell you that normal people do not actually shear sheep that fast. And they don't go around shearing sheep in a haphazard manner because if the sheep get cuts and those cuts get infected then you're talking vet bills, and not only that but an infection affects the quality of the wool. And lots of other things affect the quality of the wool, including stress. So we were nice to our sheep. They lived a happy and relatively sheepish life. And I don't ever remember my Dad killing one for anything. The coyotes got them, that's about it...

Oh, and once a rooster decided to attack a lamb and we had to put it down (got the eyes). Don't know why that rooster took offence. But the same rooster attacked my sister and my Mom shot it. That's about the most tragic thing that happened that I can remember.

redegg---thank you--arrrrr!!!
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Well actually part of the problem is that we are the only animal besides primates that have opposable thumbs that allow us to create those tools. Also, because we have such incredible brain power, then we should be able to utilize it to feed, clothe, fashion, bathe ourselves,etc, and do whatever else our heart desires without harming or abusing other animals. Especially since our the capability of our brains makes doing otherwise completely unnecessary.
Also I might add, just because people are *able* to do something, doesn't mean that they *should*. By that line of reasoning it would be perfectly logical to commit canabalism, which of course is not the case.

wow i didnt know there were so many selfish people actually suporting something as inhumane as animal cruelty...

dunno if you guys read this when it hit the papers a few months back, but i'm including the link in case not:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/08/magazine/08elephant.html?pagewanted=1&...

(or you can google ELEPHANT CRACK UP & click on the link to the NYT article)

anyway, one of the most shameful & sad things i'd read in a while. abt how war & poaching (so, two strictly human activities that also brutalize/impact animals) have essentially psychologically unhinged massive elephant populations by destroying their social cohesion. like us, they NEED intimate groups, developmental stages & elders, and their limbic systems (feeling part of the brain) are as developed as ours. something particularly soul-killing about destroying creatures who in no way can protect themselves against us. the piece also talks about a program that's helping to bring together orphaned & traumatized elephants with children who had been kidnapped into soldiering in Africa, orphaned and brutalized, too. the piece is really long, but worth 100x whatever else i would've done that sunday for an hour.

I in no way support the inhumane treatment of animals, but to support PETA or Pink or whoever based on uninformed opinions regarding the evolution of human biology and behavior just irks me. Humans *are* primates, and the reason we still have canines as well as our grinding molars is because we are omnivores - we have evolved biologically and culturally to eat animal protein as well as fibrous vegetable matter. To argue that meat-eating is "unnatural" for humans is not only besides the point, but wholly incorrect.

Perhaps it would be more productive to focus in on ways of shearing, slaughtering, and raising the animals we consume that are not cruel.

Also, what are we going to dress and warm ourselves with if we stop wearing wool? Cotton? Commercial cotton growing is bad for the environment. Synthetics? The by-products of their production is also bad for the environment. Tree bark? I'd propose going around naked but I doubt it would fly.

im not for the tortureing of animials, but lets not take it too far. theres far more important matters. Like hunger(im sure that starving people would like some hamburgers if thats all they could get) and homelessness and people dying in a war they didn't ask for. not saying we should go full force on the animals but moderation.

If i ever see pink wearing a pea coat im gonna freak out! But thats not really her style so i guess well never know. why dont we all just start buying hemp clothes and worshiping cows? (not that theres anything wrong with that) lol.

sarah I agree. Im not saying its right to kill and go insane with it and use it for profit and bla bla bla on all those cruel things that some people do to animals. But I was always taught by my family/ religion that animals feel no pain and certain ones were put here so we can survive. so Ive never seen anything wrong with eating them or using there wool, drinking there milk or keeping them as pets. So long as its not extreme. And sure it think its great some people feel so strongly about it and they have such kind hearts but they shouldnt force people to change thats only going to cause rebellion and make it worse. Fact is some countries do eat dogs and cats and thats how they are taught and thats there way of life. Its a circle of life. Come on now yall heard that song.
ITS THE CIRCLE OF LIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFE AND IT MOVES US ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL sing

it's not really true that there needs to be competition around ideas . . . we don't have to pit the disasters of poverty, homelessness, and questionable wars against each other or anything else. we have the intelligence, resources, passion, populations and skills to understand the problems and address them. not seamlessly & not overnight, but it's a myth that you must enforce a hierarchy of concern and care. it's true for one person -- in order to be effective on a daily basis -- but not for a world population of almost 7 billion people. we can talk about, care about, and begin to solve whatever matters to us with those numbers.

Here's a link for all you fur fashionistas who believe this is not a big deal and animals are here to fulfill human's needs...

http://stream.luxmedia501.com/?file=/clients/hsus/e-community/china-dog-...

I wonder how many cotton plants died for her ugly shirt? And for the record, human teeth are the teeth of omnivores, with incisors for ripping and molars for grinding.

Adriana we arent really focusing on the sole postion of fur here. Its the overall factor.

2714, you are right with as many people on the planet we should be able to focus on more then one issue at hand. But we cant. Thats how people are.

Beautiful point pad babes, how have you been Ive been so stuck up in the suites it feels like i havent talked to you in weeks.

She still smokes cigarettes. She's a loudmouth and thinks she's somehow thinks her belief system gives her the right to discount anothers. It doesn't. She's Rosie O'Donnell with a bleach job.

Pink has a right to speak but first off if we are going to go on the crelty to animals vain then we might as well wear cashmere only or find some alternative for jerseys and sweaters. Most of the stuff is a wool blend and angora comes from goats. Sheep and wool are a livelihood for 1000s of people so let's put them out of jobs so that the sheep can go free and not be harmed. Puhleese, while we are at stop killing the cows, we can buttons, glue, etc from elsewhere man, the chickens have got to live, pigs deserve a chance at life, so do the billy goats gruff.

She scares me. I used to like her, but she looks like she's a little rough. No, I'm not going to stop buying wool.

pad . . . you've described teeth (molars, incisors) that all mammals have in common, but not all mammals are carnivores. we're omnivores, and we have teeth shape, type & size in common with both herbivores and other omnivores. tho none of this has really got to do with how we treat the animals to get the food we eat or clothes we wear. i'm guessing pink doesn't want to stifle your god-given right to wear wool; she's attempting to highlight that the process of getting the wool should be & could be handled differently. i don't really get why people act like it's too hard or not worth trying to address this stuff. what's too hard about it? it would only take popular opinion, regulation and enforcement. not rocket science & 14 PhDs. besides, i'd like more humaneness behind my claim to my humanity. wouldn't you?

Ummmm, animals weren't "put" on earth, they evolved to be what they are today, just like us (lest you forgot, we are part of the animal kingdom too).

What's so wrong with making our practices more humane? It's not black and white, people. It's not like if you don't like factory farms, then you are against eating meat. You CAN choose to not purchase cheap meat that comes from a facoty farm, and instead purchase meat from a local farm that treats their animals with respect.

The same thing can be said about how we use animals in almost every area. And if we can't make it humane, then we should abolish it (fur, circuses would be two examples).

At the end of the day the animals are going to be killed what's humane about that? So why treat them like they are royalty(though i'm not advocating abuse) when all they are waiting eventually is their slaughter. Animal rights are hard, if we are going to be nice some animals why not all of them. But some of these practices and things they do after they have sheared the sheep are to prevent them from becoming maggoty and dying a painful death. I mean I have seen the hummane way of killing a pig, and a cows(my uncle owns an abbatoir) but to me it's all the same as if you used an axe, death is still death.

Wow!You cannot blame Pink for having an opinion,sorry. Yeah she DO smoke,So? She can speak her mind if she wants to even if you disagree with her.

All mammals don't have incisors. Teeth in mammals come in four different sorts: Incisors, Canines, Premolars and Molars. Not all mammals have all, or even any of them and the roles any particular sort of teeth play in an animal's life can be quite diverse. (earthlife)

And I believe I was responding to those who were saying that we don't have teeth capable of eating meat.

We've got four canines they can't be there to chew or bite beans and tofu with.

Facial Muscles
Carnivore Reduced to allow wide mouth gape
Herbivore Well-developed
Omnivore Reduced
Human Well-developed

Jaw Type
Carnivore Angle not expanded
Herbivore Expanded angle
Omnivore Angle not expanded
Human Expanded angle

Jaw Joint Location
Carnivore On same plane as molar teeth
Herbivore Above the plane of the molars
Omnivore On same plane as molar teeth
Human Above the plane of the molars

Jaw Motion
Carnivore Shearing; minimal side-to-side motion
Herbivore No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back
Omnivore Shearing; minimal side-to-side
Human No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back

Major Jaw Muscles
Carnivore Temporalis
Herbivore Masseter and pterygoids
Omnivore Temporalis
Human Masseter and pterygoids

Mouth Opening vs. Head Size
Carnivore Large
Herbivore Small
Omnivore Large
Human Small

Teeth (Incisors)
Carnivore Short and pointed
Herbivore Broad, flattened and spade shaped
Omnivore Short and pointed
Human Broad, flattened and spade shaped

Teeth (Canines)
Carnivore Long, sharp and curved
Herbivore Dull and short or long (for defense), or none
Omnivore Long, sharp and curved
Human Short and blunted

Teeth (Molars)
Carnivore Sharp, jagged and blade shaped
Herbivore Flattened with cusps vs complex surface
Omnivore Sharp blades and/or flattened
Human Flattened with nodular cusps

Chewing
Carnivore None; swallows food whole
Herbivore Extensive chewing necessary
Omnivore Swallows food whole and/or simple crushing
Human Extensive chewing necessary

Saliva
Carnivore No digestive enzymes
Herbivore Carbohydrate digesting enzymes
Omnivore No digestive enzymes
Human Carbohydrate digesting enzymes

Stomach Type
Carnivore Simple
Herbivore Simple or multiple chambers
Omnivore Simple
Human Simple

Stomach Acidity
Carnivore Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
Herbivore pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach
Omnivore Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
Human pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach

Stomach Capacity
Carnivore 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
Herbivore Less than 30% of total volume of digestive tract
Omnivore 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
Human 21% to 27% of total volume of digestive tract

Length of Small Intestine
Carnivore 3 to 6 times body length
Herbivore 10 to more than 12 times body length
Omnivore 4 to 6 times body length
Human 10 to 11 times body length

Colon
Carnivore Simple, short and smooth
Herbivore Long, complex; may be sacculated
Omnivore Simple, short and smooth
Human Long, sacculated

Liver
Carnivore Can detoxify vitamin A
Herbivore Cannot detoxify vitamin A
Omnivore Can detoxify vitamin A
Human Cannot detoxify vitamin A

Kidney
Carnivore Extremely concentrated urine
Herbivore Moderately concentrated urine
Omnivore Extremely concentrated urine
Human Moderately concentrated urine

Nails
Carnivore Sharp claws
Herbivore Flattened nails or blunt hooves
Omnivore Sharp claws
Human Flattened nails

Kelly...........Uh, she DOES smoke, and I have a problem with people stinking up my space, and I've seen her hypocritcal behind lighten up without one concern about those around her and guess what? I'm excersing my right to beyotch about that just like she is about wool.

GOOD FOR HER!!!!

I'm happy when a celebrity comes out in defense of animals. I haven't worn wool myself for years.

But what happened to her hair??? Not cute.

Padraigin, I've read that the incisors and molars humans have are for biting into hard tubers and roots. Not for the ripping of animal flesh. The truth is, humans cannot digest animal flesh the way carnivores do unless we cook the meat, season it, freeze it and basically make it unrecognizable.

I choose a partly vegetarian lifestyle because I've acquired a taste for meat ( as most of us have), and it is hard to break the habit. But the truth is, meat is not necessary for my survival. The best I can do is ensure that the meat I eat comes from cruelty-free farm, until I can find the willpower to take meat out of my diet completely.

Edwina, you certainly have the right to complain about second hand smoke. It's harmful to your health. So do so whenever you can. I don't agree with Pink calling folks names, but I do admire her for standing up for her belief. If you feel so strongly about second hand smoke, perhaps you should consider becoming an activist as well.

I have to agree with Vigilante here, my friend grew up on a farm upstate and they had pigs, chickens, cows and sheep and they did not treat them cruel. When they sheared the sheep they did not do that to them, I saw them shear the sheep at another friend's farm in Ohio. No animal was screaming or bleeding, etc. These families needed the wool to make a living and they wouldn't have a living if that's how they treat the animals.

I saw that show Bullsh*t with Penn & Teller and they showed proof that PETA is actually cruel to animals. If you just browse the net you find the news stories. Here is one story, http://www.consumerfreedom.com/pressRelease_detail.cfm/release/123 and if you google it you find that the story is true and the judge denied the request to drop the charges (http://www.wvec.com/news/local/stories/wvec_local_060106_peta_trials_upd...). Look at this site that has stories and other proof about PETA and how they aren't exactly saints http://www.petakillsanimals.com/index.cfm

I am not for the mistreatment of animals. Not at all. But I don't like the bullying tactics of PETA and the nasty way PETA celebrities talk about others and drag them into the spotlight. Why don't we take care of Child Abuse, Famine, AIDS, War, Rape and countless other things before we start petitioning against wool?