Is Winona Gwyneth's "Frenemy"?

April 16, 2009

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In today's installment of Gwyneth Paltrow's e-newsletter GOOP, she cites an instance in which she discovered that a friend was "pretty hell-bent" on taking her down, causing that person to become her frenemy. The pal ultimately suffered a very public humiliating incident — and many are speculating that Gwyneth was not-so-discreetly referring to Winona Ryder's arrest and trial for shoplifting. We're taking a look back at the friendship between the two women, and wondering if you guys think that Winona is the friend behind Gwyneth's unfortunate tale.

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41 Comments

2 years 24 weeks

Please enough of this Winona VS Gwyneth crap. They used to be friends. Let's just leave it at that.

3 years 45 weeks

I also got the impression when I read that GOOP column. It's hard to tell... even if my gut feeling (which tells me that it might be highly possible that Gwyneth stole the "Shakespeare in Love" role from Winona) is wrong, I find it extremely interesting to watch Gwyneth now -even in "Iron Man" trying to replicate Winona's gestures and acting. Watch Winona in the 90's and Gwyneth now. She's clearly emulating her.

PeachyKeen19 3 years 51 weeks

Gwenyth not so much.

PeachyKeen19 3 years 51 weeks

Lol, joygirl...I absolutely agree. Poptart, I'm a scorp I get what you mean but I think Scorpios are misunderstood they can be very loyal but mostly to those who they believe they can trust and have earned it. Check out the book Sextrology...and Gwen's a Libra they can be pretty self-righteous too or are soo consumed with being "balanced" they can actually be out of balance (if I remember that right). I post in a thread that links to this one, saying I don't know why they were ever friends and it was a brief frienship for all I know and it was because they were dating guys that were bffs. Otherwise (and someone else asked) Winona had a really close relationship with Claire Danes in the 90s. Claire Danes mentioned having a crush on Ben (what's his name? He is an Aussie muscian) and Winona flew him in for her bday party and that was Claire's first serious BF. And she dated Johnny Depp and got along great with other actors. I know she isn't perfect, she has talked about depression and such, but I always like Winona a lot. Shes cool.

poptart princess 4 years 4 weeks

well Winona is a Scorpio... those women are frenemies, period ;P BUT i don't blame Winona for anything vile she might have done to Gwyneth - she's still full of GOOP. i'm on Winona's side in this.

ambrwavs11 4 years 5 weeks

I miss Wynona, and hope she makes a big comeback. I like Gwymeth too, because even though she has this crazy glamorous life she tries to be real while still acknowledgeing she knows she has this extraordinary life. She is definitly going to come off like the b&#ch in this story though, even if the rumor goes that Wynona had already turned down the script by the time she saw it.

THoMaS_CRoWN 4 years 5 weeks

All she want is publicity..with her stupid GOOP website!!! Nice try Fishstick!!!

theavalanches 4 years 5 weeks

gwyneth is embarressing herself... stupid goop.

troughtonpertwee 4 years 5 weeks

Winona makes Gwyneth look like a man.

thun33 4 years 5 weeks

WHO CARES!! The only reason why Gwyneth wrote that newsletter is to get people talking about her GOOP website. I doubt she actually cares...free publicity.

sweetstanzy 4 years 5 weeks

It's no secret it's Winona. I doubt press-shy Winona will issue a response and I question the timing of Gwyneth's GOOP post with Star Trek coming out.

weffie 4 years 5 weeks

Ugh I can't stand either one of them!!

iheartstyle 4 years 5 weeks

could well be her

redchick152 4 years 5 weeks

ok, thank god mrs smith posted the whole GOOP post..b/c i think it makes total sense after reading the whole thing. personally, i like when people like her share "real" moments in their lives, b/c it makes them so much more relatable.

Gwen G 4 years 5 weeks

Boo...I dislike them both

ShePirate2010 4 years 5 weeks

i luv Winona.....no matter wut.....lol

cnyc1a 4 years 5 weeks

My understanding is that Gwyneth stole the script that was delivered to Winona's house for Shakespeare in Love, back in the day when these two shared everything including boyfriends who were BFFs.

nivradmitch828 4 years 5 weeks

i guess the wholre point why she brought up about her "frenemy" is that she just want to let people know that why we are so obsessed about hearing other people's downfall, you know, why we enjoy so much about reading and seeing other people ( especially our enemies), being humiliated...and it's good to know that she asked people about it also...

Glamorously 4 years 5 weeks

You wonder why GP is bringing this up? Maybe because WR has two movies coming out soon. She's trying to stay in the news just when WR is preparing to step back into the limelight. Talk about passive-aggressive behavior.

mammameof3 4 years 5 weeks

Hey, at least Gwyneth admits she had a real, human reaction to it...most of the glam squad pretend that nothing bothers them and that they wish 'nothing but the best' for exes, ex-friends, etc. BS. She's being honest about it, not mean.

jmast 4 years 5 weeks

Thank you mrs_smith, what a nice, refreshing comment. I read the whole article too and didn't think anything like the negative things being said about Gwyneth Paltrow. It's the gossip sites bringing up who they think the frenemy is that are causing the real trouble. She didn't even make it so you could guess who this person was. She just showed she's a human being like the rest of us. Have none of you ever had a frenemy? I've had and I too would be happy if they got a little payback.

mrs_smith 4 years 5 weeks

Well the whole point of the GOOP article was about why we gossip and how to keep ourselves from enjoying the power we get from it. Here's the full text of her intro: "Back in the day, I had a “frenemy” who, as it turned out, was pretty hell-bent on taking me down. This person really did what they could to hurt me. I was deeply upset, I was angry, I was all of those things you feel when you find out that someone you thought you liked was venomous and dangerous. I restrained myself from fighting back. I tried to take the high road. But one day I heard that something unfortunate and humiliating had happened to this person. And my reaction was deep relief and…happiness. There went the high road. So, why does it feel so good to hear something bad about someone you don’t like? Or someone you DO like? Or someone you don’t KNOW? I once asked the editor of a tabloid newspaper why all of the stories about a famous British couple had a negative bent. He said that when the headline was positive, the paper didn’t sell. Why is that? What’s wrong with us? I asked the sages to shed a little light. Here’s to washing our mouths out with soap..." I actually find it refreshingly honest to admit that you felt happy when someone you disliked failed- while recognizing that it is a pretty sick reaction. Once you've admitted to your faults, then you can really grow from there. If you don't see it, how can you improve yourself?

Joygirl 4 years 5 weeks

I have a feeling Gwynny has more than one frenemy...and not by any fault of theirs...

vandec 4 years 5 weeks

wow ... passive aggressive is right! that's a pretty good trick to act as if you're ABOVE the act of gossip or schadenfreude, while in the next breath throwing an old friend under the bus and rejoicing in the recollection of her humiliation. and since GP is omnipotent, she of course knew we'd all figure out to whom she was referring ... I wonder what her "sages" would say about this particular helping of negative energy GP is trafficking in. if karma works both ways, I wonder what is set to befall precious GP for her sins??