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demeter demeter 8 years
haha Ben's a Republican. I love it.
ladybugrenee ladybugrenee 8 years
um, whered he get his degree again? oh thats right, never MIND! LOL
yiddidea yiddidea 8 years
I'm a little late to this discussion, but...This clip taken out of context is a bit misleading. Anyone who is a regular watcher of Real Time knows that this is the type of language used on the show. It is on HBO and he is looking for a real, honest and passionate debate. I saw this episode when I originally aired and I cheered when Ben made this statement. I never used to be a politically driven person, but events of the past few years have really opened my eyes and awoken a part of me that I didn't know existed. I have written my Representative and my Senator to express my views and I am becoming more involved in politics. As an american citizen, it is my right and my duty to speak my opinion. So, if it is my right it is also Ben's. He chose the correct forum to speak and he was well educated on what he spoke about. Choosing the one clip where his passion overcame his censor is not fair to the whole discussion. Haven't we all gotten a bit carried away when debating something we are passionate about?I also have to wholeheartedly disagree with those who think it is wrong for performers to express their political views during their concerts (The Dixie Chicks). When we go to see a concert we are paying money to see that performers' thoughts set to music. If that said performer chooses to sing a song or make a statement of a political nature, well, that comes with the territory. The arts have been used for political causes for centuries. I do agree that hearing an actor start to rant during an awards show speech can get annoying though.
yiddidea yiddidea 8 years
I'm a little late to this discussion, but... This clip taken out of context is a bit misleading. Anyone who is a regular watcher of Real Time knows that this is the type of language used on the show. It is on HBO and he is looking for a real, honest and passionate debate. I saw this episode when I originally aired and I cheered when Ben made this statement. I never used to be a politically driven person, but events of the past few years have really opened my eyes and awoken a part of me that I didn't know existed. I have written my Representative and my Senator to express my views and I am becoming more involved in politics. As an american citizen, it is my right and my duty to speak my opinion. So, if it is my right it is also Ben's. He chose the correct forum to speak and he was well educated on what he spoke about. Choosing the one clip where his passion overcame his censor is not fair to the whole discussion. Haven't we all gotten a bit carried away when debating something we are passionate about? I also have to wholeheartedly disagree with those who think it is wrong for performers to express their political views during their concerts (The Dixie Chicks). When we go to see a concert we are paying money to see that performers' thoughts set to music. If that said performer chooses to sing a song or make a statement of a political nature, well, that comes with the territory. The arts have been used for political causes for centuries. I do agree that hearing an actor start to rant during an awards show speech can get annoying though.
ladybugrenee ladybugrenee 8 years
wonder what jen thinks of all his propaganda spewing, she must be more conservative, being from west VA
CatarinaBella521 CatarinaBella521 9 years
he has a right to his opinion just like anyone else, I just think there are better ways to make your point, without insulting people, it just makes you seem ignorant
xo_verity xo_verity 9 years
I like jen MUCH better than her husband!
lula29 lula29 9 years
Thanks Miamigal I like being right, just kiddin'. I hope no one was implying a person can't speak their minds here on a blog, but celebs blog too and when they do, people still say they should keep quiet. And though this is simply a blog, it's well known this stuff gets back to celebs, hell, Britney Spears just wrote responding to stuff said about her, so they definitely know. And since we feel so free to talk about them and their personal business, why shouldn't the express their views. The internet is definitely becoming more powerful than the airwaves though I have to say that.
lula29 lula29 9 years
Thanks Miamigal I like being right, just kiddin'. I hope no one was implying a person can't speak their minds here on a blog, but celebs blog too and when they do, people still say they should keep quiet. And though this is simply a blog, it's well known this stuff gets back to celebs, hell, Britney Spears just wrote responding to stuff said about her, so they definitely know. And since we feel so free to talk about them and their personal business, why shouldn't the express their views. The internet is definitely becoming more powerful than the airwaves though I have to say that.
Miami-Gal Miami-Gal 9 years
Jill, I can tell you there is a demand and a lot of bloggers are filling it. They dissect the articles and cross compare them. I do understand your frustration though.<p>Lula, your right, it is a blog. And we can say whatever we want here. It's not like it gets broadcast all over the airwaves.
Miami-Gal Miami-Gal 9 years
Jill, I can tell you there is a demand and a lot of bloggers are filling it. They dissect the articles and cross compare them. I do understand your frustration though.

Lula, your right, it is a blog. And we can say whatever we want here. It's not like it gets broadcast all over the airwaves.

LoveU LoveU 9 years
Love that he swears on telly. That juicy Ben is back!
Jillness Jillness 9 years
I do read from many sources, but I feel that they are also biased. I know that there is a massive difference in what is reported (and how) depending on the region where you live, so newspapers are dubious sources when they used to be so trusted. I feel that there is a great demand for unbiased, factual news. The news and journalism are businesses, and hopefully someone will see the large market that is waiting for something factual and truthful.
Jillness Jillness 9 years
I do read from many sources, but I feel that they are also biased. I know that there is a massive difference in what is reported (and how) depending on the region where you live, so newspapers are dubious sources when they used to be so trusted. I feel that there is a great demand for unbiased, factual news. The news and journalism are businesses, and hopefully someone will see the large market that is waiting for something factual and truthful.
lula29 lula29 9 years
Honestly, we are here on a blog to look at pictures that intrude on their personal lives. We sit and offer opinions about their personal business, daily. We believe rumor without verifying their validity and hurl them at these same people daily. IMO, if we are going to sit and discuss and try to force our way into their personal lives, then I feel they have a right to discuss their personal views. If we don't want to hear it I feel then we should stop seeking to know so much about them, especially how they live their lives on a day to day basis. I don't feel we can have it both ways.And as far as this whole liberal vs. conservative crap, I'm over it. People who profess to have all these "conservative values"actions never match up to all they pretend to believe. And liberals are not that open-minded of the other as they profess to be. Most people IMO lie in the middle and if we really did start seeking out the news and discussing issues, not labels, not liberal vs. conservative politics, then I think we'd figure that out and really make some change.
lula29 lula29 9 years
Honestly, we are here on a blog to look at pictures that intrude on their personal lives. We sit and offer opinions about their personal business, daily. We believe rumor without verifying their validity and hurl them at these same people daily. IMO, if we are going to sit and discuss and try to force our way into their personal lives, then I feel they have a right to discuss their personal views. If we don't want to hear it I feel then we should stop seeking to know so much about them, especially how they live their lives on a day to day basis. I don't feel we can have it both ways. And as far as this whole liberal vs. conservative crap, I'm over it. People who profess to have all these "conservative values"actions never match up to all they pretend to believe. And liberals are not that open-minded of the other as they profess to be. Most people IMO lie in the middle and if we really did start seeking out the news and discussing issues, not labels, not liberal vs. conservative politics, then I think we'd figure that out and really make some change.
Miami-Gal Miami-Gal 9 years
Jillness, I don't watch the news. I used to get frustrated too. Instead I read, from many sources. And if something is going to get me all heated up, I thoroughly research it. You have to do it that way because some "journalists" our there feel it is their responsibility to not only give you the news, but interpret it for you. They have said so much.
Jillness Jillness 9 years
Last night I couldn't find anything on the major network news programs that was factual, and not based on opinion. My local news mentioned that Obama released his ideas for health care, and not one news source broke it down or directed you to where you could learn more. Even more irritating is that there are 2 other candidates that have already released their ideas. Shouldn't the news be covering this information, at least for public debate about pros/cons and what we, as a society, want? Shouldnt' we hear more about the factual pros and cons of immigration reform, and not just what people's opinions are?
Jillness Jillness 9 years
Last night I couldn't find anything on the major network news programs that was factual, and not based on opinion. My local news mentioned that Obama released his ideas for health care, and not one news source broke it down or directed you to where you could learn more.Even more irritating is that there are 2 other candidates that have already released their ideas. Shouldn't the news be covering this information, at least for public debate about pros/cons and what we, as a society, want? Shouldnt' we hear more about the factual pros and cons of immigration reform, and not just what people's opinions are?
lulis lulis 9 years
I agree with Ben! :)
lulis lulis 9 years
I agree with Ben! :)
ethiopian_princess ethiopian_princess 9 years
I agree with him.It's your choice whether you choose to hear their political opinions. ANYONE with a strong opinion will voice it. People express their political opinions all the time. My boss, co-workers, random people in line at the grocery store, etc. find a need to express their opinions to someone who could care less about their stance (me) so people with a broader audience (celebs) will also use it.Whether it's Charleton Heston, Natalie Maines, the Law & Order guy who's running for office now or Mia Farrow, they are all entitled to voice their opinion, whether or not I want to hear it.
ethiopian_princess ethiopian_princess 9 years
I agree with him. It's your choice whether you choose to hear their political opinions. ANYONE with a strong opinion will voice it. People express their political opinions all the time. My boss, co-workers, random people in line at the grocery store, etc. find a need to express their opinions to someone who could care less about their stance (me) so people with a broader audience (celebs) will also use it. Whether it's Charleton Heston, Natalie Maines, the Law & Order guy who's running for office now or Mia Farrow, they are all entitled to voice their opinion, whether or not I want to hear it.
Miami-Gal Miami-Gal 9 years
I agree he has the right to say what he does, but like someone said before, it is when they use their celebrity to talk their crap. Concerts, movie interviews, and award shows are for entertaining. It would be nice to hear the conservative voice in Hollywood but that won't happen unless those actors wish to NOT work. It is also highly irresponsible for someone to use their celebrity for stuff like this when we are in an age that many people get their news from non news shows like this or from MTV. <p><p>Someone said something about rap. I think those lyrics are horrendous and question the content and how anyone, especially women, can endorse that crap.<p><p>I debated politics here before and I have to say, I wouldn't do it here ever again. It was a horrible experience. It was one of the two reasons I stayed away for awhile. For over 4 years I moderated a political board and am a member/student to a published, reknown history/political professor who runs a blog. I'll stick with that.
Miami-Gal Miami-Gal 9 years
I agree he has the right to say what he does, but like someone said before, it is when they use their celebrity to talk their crap. Concerts, movie interviews, and award shows are for entertaining. It would be nice to hear the conservative voice in Hollywood but that won't happen unless those actors wish to NOT work. It is also highly irresponsible for someone to use their celebrity for stuff like this when we are in an age that many people get their news from non news shows like this or from MTV.

Someone said something about rap. I think those lyrics are horrendous and question the content and how anyone, especially women, can endorse that crap.

I debated politics here before and I have to say, I wouldn't do it here ever again. It was a horrible experience. It was one of the two reasons I stayed away for awhile. For over 4 years I moderated a political board and am a member/student to a published, reknown history/political professor who runs a blog. I'll stick with that.

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