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Dumbledore: Gay. Discuss.


As many of you hard-core Harry Potter fans probably already know, J.K. Rowling has revealed that the character of Dumbledore is gay and that Dumbledore had been in love with Grindelwald. At her appearance at Carnegie Hall on Friday night, the last stop on her U.S. tour, a young fan asked Rowling if Dumbledore finds "true love." This is when Rowling outed her character.

"Falling in love can blind us to an extent," Rowling said of Dumbledore's feelings, adding that Dumbledore was "horribly, terribly let down." Dumbledore's love, she observed, was his "great tragedy."

This news has caused waves of mixed reactions, though many people seem delighted:

"Jo Rowling calling any Harry Potter character gay would make wonderful strides in tolerance toward homosexuality," Melissa Anelli, Webmaster of the fan site TheLeakyCauldron, told The Associated Press. "By dubbing someone so respected, so talented and so kind, as someone who just happens to be also homosexual, she's reinforcing the idea that a person's gayness is not something of which they should be ashamed."

Rowling, however, speculates that some folks may not be too pleased to hear this news, referencing Christian groups that have already expressed displeasure with the series for its inclusion of witchcraft. Rowling mused that these same people may not be happy with this new information.

Time to weigh in, Potter fans: Did you suspect this the whole time? Does this change anything, or doesn't this news matter to you?

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PinkNC PinkNC 7 years
This is not a topic that should have been brought up as a serious issue.
hp#1fanevr hp#1fanevr 8 years
wow.....i didnt really think something like dumbledore being gay would happen. everyone is asking why she would say this now...well she could of thought of it when she was writing 1 of the books but just thought it wouldnt fit in .....or she could of just wanted the people to look at this story and think of him as a important charector who is a great wise talented and intellignt man who plays a big role in this book. I think if she would of said it earlier people would have not taken time out of there day to even look at the book because they think it is wrong someone gay in a story. This move really adds more to his charactor and the relationship between dumbledore and grindelwald because in the 7th book when jk rolling wrote about the time when they are in there younger ages and what sadly happend to dumbledores sister and a couple other things u would think aldus hated him but the twist is that he loved him. I always thought that albus would die healthy and old but lonly (not counting all his friends but with out a wife). here we stand at first thinking he had a great life but in truth he had a life that i could never be able to live with death happening and death aproching him. Albus is my favorite character (next to harry) and should not be looked at as just a man that was gay but a man who is great. I truly think harry potter would still be tring to kill voldemort. He knew what would happen befor it would. I thank j.k. rolling for this amazing book that to some is a story of some kid and magic but to others a world that we can dream of.
water water 8 years
I don't understand why Dumbledore's so many good qualities are being put aside just because he is gay. This reflects something about the society - it's as if the measure of a human is his or her orientation and not what he or she does, especially for others. Can't gays do good or heroic actions? Gays are humans too who have freedom and infinite possibilities - and this is contrary to what stupid homophobes do when they box gays into stereotypes.
1inamillion 1inamillion 8 years
I never would have guessed. Ah well. It doesn't change a thing. It just adds another twist to the series. YAY DUMBLEDORE<3!
Advah Advah 8 years
Ok I've read more comments and realised my point is not very clear: I don't think JKR was trying to do anything by saying that, or making more publicity. She was just answering a question, based on the story she invented for each of her characters. I don't think she was trying to make a big deal out of it, she could have said 'I always pictured Snape with curly hair', and no one would have said anything. It not like 'knowing' Dumbledore is gay makes a difference in the books' story, or reveals any subplot. That's why I don't like the 'JKR /reveals/ Dumbledore is gay' titles you can find everywhere on the net. She didn't /reveal/ anything because she never 'hid' anything. As she said, she didn't mention that before because she thought it was obvious. @LaLaLaurie: haha in the first books I thought they were gonna hook up, too!
Advah Advah 8 years
In a later interview, J. K. Rowling said she picture Dumbledore as being gay, even before starting writing. When people asked why she never said anything before, she added she thought it was obvious. I really like her point: kids can read the relationship as a 'best friends' one, and adults can see it different. I guess Rowling was just not imposing her idea of the characters on the readers. Although I was talking with my flatmates of the whole 'outting Dumbie' thing, and we actually all thought he was gay, before Rowling saying anything. Once again, like any book, the readers are free to see the story differently. To answer the initial question: no, it doesn't make any difference to me. Dumbledore remains Dumbledore. (but damn, now my 'spoilers' tee-shirt from Threadless is outdated, it should read 'Dumbledore is gay' instead of 'Snape killed Dumbledore'! ;))
chancleta chancleta 8 years
im with Jacqui & Nouveau Jackie O this is age inappropriate
Seraphim Seraphim 8 years
i could really care less :) and i don't really understand why it's even relevant... it doesn't make the character seem any different to me, gay not gay,...who cares
aoitenshi aoitenshi 8 years
I don't really care, but it was kind of surprising.
sumnboutme sumnboutme 8 years
I'm a Harry Potter fan but I don't see the point of revealing this now. This might've made a difference if revealed before the series was over. By revealing this now, is Rowling just trying to keep her name on the news? What really is her motive? I personally don't think it matters whether or not Dumbledore is gay. What matters to me is Rowling's intentions in "outing" Dumbledore.
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 8 years
i dont see "how it makes sense" in any part of the story. And this is just JK's feeble attempt to gain more publicity now that the books are over I love HP, i wouldnt have given a rip if Dumbledore was a poofer, its just stupid to come out with it now. Was he hiding in the closet in the room of requirement, and now that its over he can come on out? whats next JK? Hagrid is an alcoholic?
rivrchild rivrchild 8 years
To everyone who keeps saying she did this for publicity: this info was revealed in response to an audience question about Dumbledore's ever finding true love. She didn't plan the question, but having been asked JKR doesn't strike me as the type who would just lie to her fans - or make anything up on the spot just for PR for that matter. JKR has extensive background on all her characters, even the minor ones (like Dean Thomas, whose background she sadly had to leave out of the story for length reasons) so she probably had this in her head as part of his character from day 1. She didn't include it because like so many have said, it's not important to the story. To whoever said they don't understand why she keeps coming out with new info about the books even though the books are over and that if they were a fan they would be pissed - believe me, the real fans live for this stuff! And of course she has to come out with new info because as said before, with all that background info that could never make it into the series and everyone asking questions - this stuff just keeps on coming! And mooshi: homosexuality is not encouraged in the books! Good grief! It's not even mentioned! But JKR has said time and again about her books that although they are "fantasy" she treats them like the real world - so even though there is "magic" there is also the harsh reality of death, war, and injustice. JKR recognizes homosexuality as a reality, so why shouldn't she characterize someone that way in her books as part of her backstory? Esk4: I would hope that children who love the HP books would gain an even broader compassion for all people because of this. That's who these stories are going to help. The present and past generations are already grown and have for the most part formed their opinions about the world and the people in it. Children growing up reading Harry Potter for the first time may have a different impression of homosexuality - a better one, that teaches compassion and respect. That would make this world a better place in my opinion.
The-City-Girl The-City-Girl 8 years
OK I apologize becuase this is off-topic, but I have to say something! Cravinsugar (I'm going to follow your style and dislike the idea, here, not the thinker) I'm sorry, but it's just not reality that the "older" generation was so much more moral. I'm sure it's easy to idealize one's own past and peers, but it's too simplistic: Keep in mind that that generation had Jim Crow Laws, segregation, and lynching, as well as the fact that domestic violence was more generally accepted, marital rape legal, and there was little compassion or support for women who wanted to leave bad situations. Every generation has its issues because people will always be flawed. So of course my generation has lots of problems too (but addicted, violent, and immoral people don't just spring from secure, loving, stable, godly parents of the previous generation. . .there is cause and effect). Yes, every generation says, "Kids today!" but it's just a cliché, and somewhat unreasonable. Okay, back to Gay Dumbledore!
facin8me facin8me 8 years
"if they are treating these people unfairly because of their belifes yeah thats wrong, but just haveing the belifes doesn't mean they should be labled..." So if you don't like black people, but you're not out lynching people, you're not a racist?? I'm not sure this logic holds.
Jinx Jinx 8 years
lol!
terryt18 terryt18 8 years
I think it's crazy for people to base their disagreement with homosexuality on the Bible when the Bible also says slavery is perfectly fine, anyone who works on Sunday must be killed, and women should submit to men in all situations. :roygbv:
mooshi mooshi 8 years
i don't know.. what does his homosexuality has to do with anything? I'm a HP fan, but I didn't like this move, i mean, what's the point? It's soo out of the blue, and I don't think these kinds of things should be encouraged in children's books.
esk4 esk4 8 years
I just don't understand why people think its such a great thing for homosexuality... I mean those who don't have a problem with it already don't have a problem seeing a homosexual person in a position of respect and power... and those who don't approve of homosexuality aren't going to change their minds because dumbledoor is gay... I also think its silly that anyone who doesn't agree with, homosexuality is labled a homophobe... I mean if labling these people that way so you can try and belittle them and their belifes makes you feel better thats great, but it doesn't make it right just because they disagree with you... if they are treating these people unfairly because of their belifes yeah thats wrong, but just haveing the belifes doesn't mean they should be labled...
facin8me facin8me 8 years
Poor Dumbledore...not raised with those "moral standards" of the old generation. Too bad there wasn't a James Dobson or Peter LaBarbera around in the book to help him straighten out his "choice." Maybe Jo Rowling can write a prequel series where Dumbledore goes to straight camp with Ted Haggard?
cravinsugar cravinsugar 8 years
Ok, so, I am responding to a comment somewhat in the middle of the thread: Just because a person does not accept/agree with homosexuality, does not make them a biggot. Some people hold those beliefs based off of their religious upbringing (AKA love the sinner, hate the sin) and therefore love the person but disagree with their homosexuality. I realize that most of the "new" generation (I say that with an eye roll) was not raised with te same moral standards that children of teh "old" generation were, but I expect them to be as tolerant of my view (that I love the sinner/hate the sin) as I am of theirs (that they accept it). I hope I communicated this as unpassionately as possible, and will not be responding to any comments in response. Just wanted to throw it out there because I feel strongly about my convictions and do not appreciate being called a biggot. And yes, I have friends that are homosexual...and yes I call myself a friend regardless of how i feel about their lifestyle because I am not perfect either. I am there for them when they need me, everything a friend can be. And I let it go at that. I don't criticize, or even tell them how I feel as it isn't my place.
LaLaLaurie06 LaLaLaurie06 8 years
i didn't expect it, but i'm perfectly fine with it. part of me always thought he'd hook up with mcgonagall, but whatevs!
ktacce ktacce 8 years
i haven't read the series (gasp. the only american left, i think...) but good for her. even if there isn't a background story to support, or something that ties it into the books, i'm glad she's standing up and making homosexuality the mainstream.
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