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Heroes Rundown Chapter 13: "Dual"

Heroes Rundown Chapter 13: "Dual"

"On the sixth day, God created man in his own image. Now it's up to us to figure it all out." Thus begins (in an opening narration by Sylar instead of Mohinder, which I think is a nice change of pace) the final episode in this Heroes volume, "Villains." As has been the case in many of the chapters of this volume, the episode explores what makes people good or evil, heroes or villains, etc. etc. etc.

Sylar plays a little psychological murder game with the foursome he's locked inside Primatech (Claire, Meredith, Angela, HRG), trying to make them kill each other. Meanwhile, Ando, Daphne and Parkman work to bring Hiro back to present-day and Nathan and Peter have differing opinions on what to do with the formula. For more on this episode,

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  • Nathan comes upon Peter gazing upon their father's dead body. He tells Peter that he's going to finish what their father started, even though Peter thinks no good can come from it. Peter punches Nathan out and heads down to the lab.
  • At Primatech, Sylar traps HRG, Meredith, Claire and Angela in the building and talks to them over the PA system: "You did this to me. And before the night is over, I'm gonna prove to you, one by one, that you're all monsters. Exactly like me.".
  • Meanwhile, present-day Hiro, who is stuck in the 16-years-ago-past, recaps some things for us while gripping the pole and chatting to a pigeon. "I lost the formula. I failed my father. I lost my destiny."
  • Mohinder's infection has spread to his lungs and he hopes the formula will cure him. Peter, Flint and Knox burst into the lab, all of them planning to destroy the formula. Flint explains that with the formula, they're not so special anymore. Knox goes to keep an eye on Nathan so he won't interfere with the lab destruction.
  • Daphne speeds through the lab, stealing the one dose of the formula that Mohinder was holding. She gives it to Ando who injects himself even though Parkman (quite logically, really) wonders what if Ando doesn't get the exact power he wants?
  • Hiro climbs his way back up to the apartment where he talks with his child self and asks the younger Hiro to find a piece of paper of his father's with numbers and figures on it.
  • Claire would like to give the tempermental Sylar "a good spanking." Wouldn't we all, Claire? Wouldn't we all.
  • Sylar tells Claire that he'll let her, HRG and Meredith walk out alive if Claire will murder Angela. Otherwise, Claire is endangering HRG's life. She promises Sylar that if he hurts HRG she'll hunt him down and kill him.
  • Ando tries to teleport, repeating that he's the master of time and space. Parkman tells him to scrunch his eyes gently because he doesn't want to go back to the Stone Age (ha!). Rather than time travel, however, Ando got the power of supercharging other peoples' powers. They figure out that supercharging Daphne's speedstering causes her to travel through time.
  • HRG tells the Level Five guys that whoever brings him Sylar will be granted freedom, though he tells Meredith that they're actually bait for Sylar. Puppet master guy, Doyle, tries to control Sylar, but that doesn't work out so well for him. Sylar injects Meredith with adrenaline and then Meredith can't control her fire. Sylar shuts HRG in a room with her and has left him a gun with one bullet in it. Claire ultimately works with Meredith and HRG to shatter the glass and free them from the cell.
  • Nathan tells Knox that everyone always roots for Peter but in the end he always winds up losing. He starts a fight with Knox which Tracy ends by freezing and then shattering Knox. Tracy thinks that as a politician, Nathan can't recover from a disaster like this one, PR-wise. She says they can start over, but Nathan ends up firing her.
  • Older Hiro finds the formula just as Kaito walks in, notices the open safe and grabs his sword, calling Hiro a thief. Hiro finally holds up the formula, saying that if he destroys it then it can't be used. He tears it in half before disappearing. In that moment, Daphne and Ando bring Hiro back to the present. Daphne and Hiro then go to Pinehearst where Hiro punches Tracy in the face and grabs the formula.
  • Speaking of the formula, Flint and Peter are still trying to destroy the lab. They tip over a giant tub of the stuff, some of which reaches the knocked-out Mohinder and his scalies go away. Flint goes to set the place on fire, but Nathan hits him with a metal thing, then hits Peter with it — repeatedly. Flint sets the room ablaze anyway, but then Peter injects himself with the formula and crashes with Nathan through the window and flies them away to safety. Nathan wants to know why Peter saved him and Peter says it's because Nathan's his brother and he loves him.
  • Angela says Sylar's a hero because he killed Arthur, but Sylar's not having any of her nonsense. He says she's not her mother and she confirms this. She says she wanted him to work for the Company. She saw that he was "flawed, weak, malleable. Someone I could manipulate because that's what I do, because you're right. I'm a monster, too." She says she knows who his real parents are. He starts to force her to tell him but just then Claire gets him in the back of his skull, and he goes down. Claire goes back to the cell to save her mother, but HRG and Meredith tell her to run. As they do, Meredith unleashes her fire and Primatech is set aflame.
  • Tracy picks up Mohinder in her car.
  • "Each one of us is capable of both the dark and the light, of good and evil, of either, of all. And destiny while marching ever in our direction can be rerouted by the choices we make. . . by the love we hold on to and the promises we keep."
  • We get a glimpse of "Fugitives," which picks up three weeks later. Nathan is in D.C. explaining that he wants to round up all these special people and put them someplace where they won't be a danger to anyone. As he leaves the car, he thanks the President.

"Villains" is over! Heroes returns Feb. 2.

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popcorn19 popcorn19 7 years
LOVE Ando! And can I say how much even more I love the Ando/Matt/Daphne trio?! Totally wish the crux of the series had stayed all Sylar/Elle, though. I already miss them.
popcorn19 popcorn19 7 years
LOVE Ando! And can I say how much even more I love the Ando/Matt/Daphne trio?!Totally wish the crux of the series had stayed all Sylar/Elle, though. I already miss them.
reesiekitty reesiekitty 7 years
Hey Phil- are you my BF Phil, commenting here? Lol, because that would be funny either way, as he also had huge issues with the space/time continuum gaps in the writing. And who IS Nathan Petrelli married to IRL? I don't know either. I suppose with Ando's new power, both sides will want to control him so they can 'supercharge' their heroes/villains. I think that some clean-up crew or something will be clearing out the debris from Primatech- where ever the heck it is- and will come across Syler's skeletal, crispy remains and pull the glass out of the back of the skull and he'll ooze on back to live. Unless the new Star Trek movie makes Zackary Quinto's career totally take off, in which case they'll pull an 'Elle' on us and he'll go whistling off like Kristin Bell. I really hope Bryan Fuller can fix things too. We made fun of this season as much as we actually watched it, and that's a bad sign. When Lost and Dollhouse and other shows start up again, our TV time will be at a premium- even with TIVO, we have too much to do to watch everything! So we'll see if Heroes makes the cut for 2009!
reesiekitty reesiekitty 7 years
Hey Phil- are you my BF Phil, commenting here? Lol, because that would be funny either way, as he also had huge issues with the space/time continuum gaps in the writing. And who IS Nathan Petrelli married to IRL? I don't know either. I suppose with Ando's new power, both sides will want to control him so they can 'supercharge' their heroes/villains. I think that some clean-up crew or something will be clearing out the debris from Primatech- where ever the heck it is- and will come across Syler's skeletal, crispy remains and pull the glass out of the back of the skull and he'll ooze on back to live. Unless the new Star Trek movie makes Zackary Quinto's career totally take off, in which case they'll pull an 'Elle' on us and he'll go whistling off like Kristin Bell. I really hope Bryan Fuller can fix things too. We made fun of this season as much as we actually watched it, and that's a bad sign. When Lost and Dollhouse and other shows start up again, our TV time will be at a premium- even with TIVO, we have too much to do to watch everything! So we'll see if Heroes makes the cut for 2009!
Phorrest99 Phorrest99 7 years
I think this was one of the best episodes of the season, well this one & last week's. I wasn't really liking this season & was kind of debating on whether to continue watching it, but now I think I will. I'm hoping the next chapter will continue getting better! Forward instead of backward!
Phil Phil 7 years
Regarding the time travel--it theoretically wouldn't matter if you were moving up, down, left, back or wherever. You would just need to travel faster than the speed of light. Because of the lazy writing the logic does completely fail in that it would be ridiculously unlikely that Ando and Daphne would be able to figure out how to control where they go in time. And, in fact, they don't even know where or when Hiro is in time. So for them to actually find Hiro, they would likely had to have searched physical space for a far greater amount of time than was implied by the show. Of course, the show's writers could neatly explain it all away in a future episode or by simply saying "it's just a TV show."Also, how is it that when Daphne first touched Ando she pretty severely spasmed, but upon touching him again to save Hiro, she was totally unaffected by the awesomeness of Ando's otherwise pretty useless new power. And seriously, people already have superpowers, I understand it's appropriate to Ando's role in the show and in that particular scene, but is it really necessary to have a person that can supercharge a superpower? Doesn't that totally cheapen the whole "having a superpower" thing?I too thought that Primatech was a warehouse. I don't ever remember Primatech moving to someone's mansion. At first I thought that maybe it was the Petrelli estate, but that made even less sense as the physical location of the Primatech warehouse and the Petrelli's manse are hundreds of miles separated. Then I figured that maybe there are other Primatech facilities around, but that rationale was shot down when that creepy fat guy with telekinesis showed up.I can't wait to see how Sylar survives that deathblow Claire dealt him. Because no one important ever dies on this show.I can't wait 'til Brian Fuller gets back to this show! Unfortunately, I have a feeling it's too far gone. It'll be interesting to see how dramatic a change in viewership the winter premier will have.
Phil Phil 7 years
Regarding the time travel--it theoretically wouldn't matter if you were moving up, down, left, back or wherever. You would just need to travel faster than the speed of light. Because of the lazy writing the logic does completely fail in that it would be ridiculously unlikely that Ando and Daphne would be able to figure out how to control where they go in time. And, in fact, they don't even know where or when Hiro is in time. So for them to actually find Hiro, they would likely had to have searched physical space for a far greater amount of time than was implied by the show. Of course, the show's writers could neatly explain it all away in a future episode or by simply saying "it's just a TV show." Also, how is it that when Daphne first touched Ando she pretty severely spasmed, but upon touching him again to save Hiro, she was totally unaffected by the awesomeness of Ando's otherwise pretty useless new power. And seriously, people already have superpowers, I understand it's appropriate to Ando's role in the show and in that particular scene, but is it really necessary to have a person that can supercharge a superpower? Doesn't that totally cheapen the whole "having a superpower" thing? I too thought that Primatech was a warehouse. I don't ever remember Primatech moving to someone's mansion. At first I thought that maybe it was the Petrelli estate, but that made even less sense as the physical location of the Primatech warehouse and the Petrelli's manse are hundreds of miles separated. Then I figured that maybe there are other Primatech facilities around, but that rationale was shot down when that creepy fat guy with telekinesis showed up. I can't wait to see how Sylar survives that deathblow Claire dealt him. Because no one important ever dies on this show. I can't wait 'til Brian Fuller gets back to this show! Unfortunately, I have a feeling it's too far gone. It'll be interesting to see how dramatic a change in viewership the winter premier will have.
tlsgirl tlsgirl 7 years
Who is he married to?
tlsgirl tlsgirl 7 years
Who is he married to?
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 7 years
Is it bad that I dont like nathan, not because of his character, but because of who the actor is married to in real life? Ha Ha.
tlsgirl tlsgirl 7 years
Ando was so hilarious when he was trying to use his power for the first time. It sort of looked like he was constipated for a minute there ::ROFL:: Also, and this is gonna sound gross, but if they actually thought about it, someone would actually take Sylar's head and put it half a continent away from his body, 'cause you know he's gonna come out of this just fine. Oh, and I hate Nathan. He always ends up acting like a douche, no matter what happens.
tlsgirl tlsgirl 7 years
Ando was so hilarious when he was trying to use his power for the first time. It sort of looked like he was constipated for a minute there ::ROFL::Also, and this is gonna sound gross, but if they actually thought about it, someone would actually take Sylar's head and put it half a continent away from his body, 'cause you know he's gonna come out of this just fine.Oh, and I hate Nathan. He always ends up acting like a douche, no matter what happens.
reesiekitty reesiekitty 7 years
as verily pointed out, comic book copycat story themes abounded even more this week than usual. My bf can just call them as they happen on Heroes- based on the comic story arc it was ripped off from. Speaking to the backwards time travel ( as explained in comics) if you vibrate your molecules fast enough, it makes your entire person super fast. If you vibrate them even faster, you can actually make them vibrate to a point where you outpace time ( as in Einstein's theory of relativity ) and sort of vibrate yourself so far forward you are actually going backwards. The Flash did this, among others. So I kind of get that. On to the critique!1)Plain old evil Syler is just really boring. Seriously, this was like a bad episode of SAW or something- 'I'm going to lock you up and prove that you're all just as bad as me. Except they aren't, really, and everyone spent most of this episode wandering around Primatech like they were in a fun house, but with very little fun or suspense. I would think Angela would DEFINITELY have an override code for the building- she is way too sly a Silver Fox not to have an escape route. Also, she and HRG have been around Primatech for dog's years, but Syler knows where everything is and how to work it? Didn't make sense. Tough Claire was refreshing from Whiney Claire, but still- last week you were teaching her to bat with broken pieces of wood and this week you hand her an ASSAULT RIFLE??? Which she magically knows how to fire with no apparent recoil. uh-huh2)Really tired of everyone's exploring their daddy/mommy issues. This is not 'Heroes Go To Therapy' it's just getting tedious to the point where I don't CARE. lol- except for the mental picture of Haydenette spanking Zachary Quinto. I think leather was involved ( although I know she doesn't wear that IRL) I felt dirty just hearing her say that line ;) 3)Nathan and Peter are becoming like the schizophrenic twins. Seriously- they seem to switch their motivation every five seconds- they love each other, they despise each other, they love their parents, they despise them. Again, I am just losing interest in the Bros Petrelli and their russian opera powers drama. Again, Nathan- super soldier projects never END WELL. And, if this episode is anything to go by, they can still get snuck up on and get their heads twisted off. 4)I liked it that Hiro got himself off of the flagpole with no powers and no help! I also liked young and old Hiro together and George Takai fighting him with a kitana while Hiro had a loaf of bread was priceless.5)The Ando/Parkman/Daphne trio actually gets my vote for most entertaining this week. They have pretty funny physical chemistry together- Parkman and Daphne 'leaning' on Ando while he tried to time travel was really comical. And at least they did some stuff that made some sense. I also liked it that Ando was wanting a power so badly at this point that he actually was totally playing the justification card, even though they totally DIDN'T know what power he'd get. His power also looks cool when its flaring up, so bonus points for that. 6)Mohinder, Mohinder... I am so glad your scaliness is gone. However, you have NO BUSINESS trying to take any kind of moral high ground with Peter. You've been EXPERIMENTING ON PEOPLE WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT FOR AN EVIL TYRANT. I seriously thought it would be Maya picking him up in the sports car, so I was pretty relieved it was just Tracy. I really liked Ali Larter better back in Season 1. The Tracy character just seems more shallow and not as interesting. 7)Joanna33- about Primatech- that's just what we said!! It was a paper company facade with the actual Primatech underground or something. Where was that whole Gothic Mansion we saw burning to the ground? Did I miss a whole other Primatech building somewhere?? I really hope the 'Fugitives' story arc gets things back on track- lol, for Nathan totally selling everyone out! No wonder Future Peter came back and shot him! - and Pres Worf, too. But the show is going to have to become more interesting and MAKE MORE SENSE WITH BETTER WRITING or we won't keep watching it. We'll give it a few trial episodes in Feb though.
reesiekitty reesiekitty 7 years
as verily pointed out, comic book copycat story themes abounded even more this week than usual. My bf can just call them as they happen on Heroes- based on the comic story arc it was ripped off from. Speaking to the backwards time travel ( as explained in comics) if you vibrate your molecules fast enough, it makes your entire person super fast. If you vibrate them even faster, you can actually make them vibrate to a point where you outpace time ( as in Einstein's theory of relativity ) and sort of vibrate yourself so far forward you are actually going backwards. The Flash did this, among others. So I kind of get that. On to the critique! 1)Plain old evil Syler is just really boring. Seriously, this was like a bad episode of SAW or something- 'I'm going to lock you up and prove that you're all just as bad as me. Except they aren't, really, and everyone spent most of this episode wandering around Primatech like they were in a fun house, but with very little fun or suspense. I would think Angela would DEFINITELY have an override code for the building- she is way too sly a Silver Fox not to have an escape route. Also, she and HRG have been around Primatech for dog's years, but Syler knows where everything is and how to work it? Didn't make sense. Tough Claire was refreshing from Whiney Claire, but still- last week you were teaching her to bat with broken pieces of wood and this week you hand her an ASSAULT RIFLE??? Which she magically knows how to fire with no apparent recoil. uh-huh 2)Really tired of everyone's exploring their daddy/mommy issues. This is not 'Heroes Go To Therapy' it's just getting tedious to the point where I don't CARE. lol- except for the mental picture of Haydenette spanking Zachary Quinto. I think leather was involved ( although I know she doesn't wear that IRL) I felt dirty just hearing her say that line ;) 3)Nathan and Peter are becoming like the schizophrenic twins. Seriously- they seem to switch their motivation every five seconds- they love each other, they despise each other, they love their parents, they despise them. Again, I am just losing interest in the Bros Petrelli and their russian opera powers drama. Again, Nathan- super soldier projects never END WELL. And, if this episode is anything to go by, they can still get snuck up on and get their heads twisted off. 4)I liked it that Hiro got himself off of the flagpole with no powers and no help! I also liked young and old Hiro together and George Takai fighting him with a kitana while Hiro had a loaf of bread was priceless. 5)The Ando/Parkman/Daphne trio actually gets my vote for most entertaining this week. They have pretty funny physical chemistry together- Parkman and Daphne 'leaning' on Ando while he tried to time travel was really comical. And at least they did some stuff that made some sense. I also liked it that Ando was wanting a power so badly at this point that he actually was totally playing the justification card, even though they totally DIDN'T know what power he'd get. His power also looks cool when its flaring up, so bonus points for that. 6)Mohinder, Mohinder... I am so glad your scaliness is gone. However, you have NO BUSINESS trying to take any kind of moral high ground with Peter. You've been EXPERIMENTING ON PEOPLE WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT FOR AN EVIL TYRANT. I seriously thought it would be Maya picking him up in the sports car, so I was pretty relieved it was just Tracy. I really liked Ali Larter better back in Season 1. The Tracy character just seems more shallow and not as interesting. 7)Joanna33- about Primatech- that's just what we said!! It was a paper company facade with the actual Primatech underground or something. Where was that whole Gothic Mansion we saw burning to the ground? Did I miss a whole other Primatech building somewhere?? I really hope the 'Fugitives' story arc gets things back on track- lol, for Nathan totally selling everyone out! No wonder Future Peter came back and shot him! - and Pres Worf, too. But the show is going to have to become more interesting and MAKE MORE SENSE WITH BETTER WRITING or we won't keep watching it. We'll give it a few trial episodes in Feb though.
Phasekitty Phasekitty 7 years
And, I agree. I think Peter got his old powers back!
Phasekitty Phasekitty 7 years
I agree, CG. These rundowns are great for reminding me what happened in the episode, but I'm more interested in opinions and theories :true:
ingalinnea ingalinnea 7 years
First off - loved Tracy calling Hiro pikachu before he punched her in the face (only after apologizing for it of course!) And speaking of punching, I gave a little cheer to see Peter actually do something besides be whiny and indecisive. But I am still pretty amazed that Nathan turned into a bad guy so fast... And I totally agree that Meridith and Sylar will miraculously survive the fire... The next chapter looks interesting. I am hoping that this chapter was just a remnant of the writers strike and the Heroes we all love will be back next year.
ingalinnea ingalinnea 7 years
First off - loved Tracy calling Hiro pikachu before he punched her in the face (only after apologizing for it of course!) And speaking of punching, I gave a little cheer to see Peter actually do something besides be whiny and indecisive. But I am still pretty amazed that Nathan turned into a bad guy so fast...And I totally agree that Meridith and Sylar will miraculously survive the fire...The next chapter looks interesting. I am hoping that this chapter was just a remnant of the writers strike and the Heroes we all love will be back next year.
Allyace Allyace 7 years
I am very glad this volume is over. Hopefully we can get back to good Heroes now. This one was so very up and down. Last week's episode was good and then this one was bad. Ahh well. I hope Sylar isn't really dead b/c he adds a lot of the dynamic to the show. It will also be sad if Hiro's powers are really gone.
Linda-McP Linda-McP 7 years
Thanks for the clarification, CG!
superstar2780 superstar2780 7 years
this episode was underwhelming. it was really exciting though to see michael dorn's name in the opening credits! flint's accent kind of annoys me. I too was a bit confused with the speedster time-travel einstein stuff but then I failed physics in high school, and now I work in the arts so I don't have to understand all that stuff. haha. I noticed james kyson lee slipped out of his accent a bit during the scenes when he was trying to use his power for the first time! and I kind of hated the scenes with zachary quinto on the intercom at primatech. his "I'm so evil" voice was irritating. ha. my comments this week are mostly about the actors and not the characters themselves ...
superstar2780 superstar2780 7 years
this episode was underwhelming.it was really exciting though to see michael dorn's name in the opening credits! flint's accent kind of annoys me.I too was a bit confused with the speedster time-travel einstein stuff but then I failed physics in high school, and now I work in the arts so I don't have to understand all that stuff. haha.I noticed james kyson lee slipped out of his accent a bit during the scenes when he was trying to use his power for the first time!and I kind of hated the scenes with zachary quinto on the intercom at primatech. his "I'm so evil" voice was irritating. ha. my comments this week are mostly about the actors and not the characters themselves ...
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 7 years
not that I mean that Buzz is worthless. sorry if that came across that way.
joanna33t joanna33t 7 years
Again, a few things confused me this week: Last week I didn't understand how Daphne could "run" while supporting Matt & Ando's weight. This week I don't understand how she could run back in time, even with Ando's supercharge. Where's the sense in this?? She's not running backwards, just really fast. So how could forward movement translate to backwards time travel (even considering the time-space continum theory from Parkman, that would only justify forward, not backward, right??)Second - wasn't Primatech a warehouse or a factory or something? With the "Company" rooted in the lower levels? The scene at the end where they're standing outside watching it burn show Primatech as a mansion or something,right??Third: Dear Peter, We get it that you love your brother. Personally, I'm starting to wonder if you're IN LOVE with your brother sometimes. It's weird man. Love, Joanna33tFourth - who thinks Sylar is going to somehow come back? I do! I do! And Meredith will survive the fire too, obviously. Fifth - yes, I'm getting bored with my numbering too - where did Arthur's body go? One minute Peter was sitting over it, then Nathan came out, and then when Knox went out to keep an eye on Nathan there was no body. WTF??Looking forward to everyone's responses!! sorry for blabbing on and on!!
joanna33t joanna33t 7 years
Again, a few things confused me this week: Last week I didn't understand how Daphne could "run" while supporting Matt & Ando's weight. This week I don't understand how she could run back in time, even with Ando's supercharge. Where's the sense in this?? She's not running backwards, just really fast. So how could forward movement translate to backwards time travel (even considering the time-space continum theory from Parkman, that would only justify forward, not backward, right??) Second - wasn't Primatech a warehouse or a factory or something? With the "Company" rooted in the lower levels? The scene at the end where they're standing outside watching it burn show Primatech as a mansion or something,right?? Third: Dear Peter, We get it that you love your brother. Personally, I'm starting to wonder if you're IN LOVE with your brother sometimes. It's weird man. Love, Joanna33t Fourth - who thinks Sylar is going to somehow come back? I do! I do! And Meredith will survive the fire too, obviously. Fifth - yes, I'm getting bored with my numbering too - where did Arthur's body go? One minute Peter was sitting over it, then Nathan came out, and then when Knox went out to keep an eye on Nathan there was no body. WTF?? Looking forward to everyone's responses!! sorry for blabbing on and on!!
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