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Let's Dish: Top Chef 4.2 — Animal Instincts

Let's Dish: Top Chef 4.2 — Animal Instincts

Last night the Top Chef cheftestants spent the night at the zoo. You've taken the quiz and now it's time to discuss. Was this episode as good as last week's? I've got a list of questions to dish out after the jump — warning there are spoilers! — so read through them and tell us what you think. To join the discussion, just

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  1. Do you like that the quickfire winner gets immunity?
  2. Would you have bought the frozen meat at the market?
  3. Were you surprised that neither of the challenges played on the fact that guest judge Wylie Dufresne is a molecular gastronomist?
  4. Were you shocked to hear that Team Bear didn't taste their mushrooms before serving? Would you have let the judges taste those mushrooms?
  5. Don't mean to be catty, but does anyone else think Erik needs a little presentation help?
  6. Were you surprised that Andrew won?
  7. Do you think the right person went home?
  8. And finally, who are you rooting for now?

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thorswitch thorswitch 8 years
j2e1n9 - I've seen you mention that elsewhere, but I've never noticed it. Mind if I ask where you heard that from? I've got a friend who's a HUGE Gail fan and would love to pass that on to her, but I already know she's gonna want to know where it comes from ::rolls eyes:: Do you like that the quickfire winner gets immunity? I thinks it been that way for most of the show, hasn't it? I like the immunity because it's a great way to motivate them to try and really be creative during the quickfire, and we get to see some really interesting things as a result, which is fun :) Would you have bought the frozen meat at the market? Probably not Were you surprised that neither of the challenges played on the fact that guest judge Wylie Dufresne is a molecular gastronomist? Not really. I think it would be interesting, but molecular gastronomy is still kind of on the fringes, and the techniques aren't things that most chefs are going to be familiar with, unless they've made an effort to familiarize themselves. So throwing them in to do a dish using one of the MG techniques would, IMO, be a bit of an unfair challenge. Now, last weeks elimination challenge with the classics was totally different because those are things a decent chef *should* know, but MG just isn't there yet, and I suspect the results wouldn't be all that different than the menswear challenge on Project Runway this past season - LOL!. Were you shocked to hear that Team Bear didn't taste their mushrooms before serving? Would you have let the judges taste those mushrooms? Yeah - haven't these people watched the show? I mean, even if they don't know that they should taste everything before it goes out just as a general part of their professional practices (which they should,) if they'd watched any season of the show, they'd've heard more than a few times how important it is! And on the mushrooms, I wouldn't have let the judges have them. I would have explained that because they did not meet the level of quality I had expected, I was not serving them to the customers and would not be letting the judges sample them, either, because I can't stand behind them. If I got knocked off some points for that, I'd rather take it for refusing to serve substandard fare than to get docked for serving something I *knew* was bad. Don't mean to be catty, but does anyone else think Erik needs a little presentation help? Maybe a bit, but, I dunno, there's something about him that I just kind of like Were you surprised that Andrew won? Yeah - but I can see why. He had the glaciers that looked great and there was a lot of praise for his anchovy thing, too. Do you think the right person went home? Hard to say, but probably. And finally, who are you rooting for now? I really haven't picked a favourite yet. I dunno why, but Andrew cracks me up, so I don't mind having him around for the comedic value, and, like I said, Eric is oddly appealing to me. But as for who I think should win? Way, way too early for me to be picking a favourite.
thorswitch thorswitch 8 years
j2e1n9 - I've seen you mention that elsewhere, but I've never noticed it. Mind if I ask where you heard that from? I've got a friend who's a HUGE Gail fan and would love to pass that on to her, but I already know she's gonna want to know where it comes from ::rolls eyes::<I>Do you like that the quickfire winner gets immunity?</I>I thinks it been that way for most of the show, hasn't it? I like the immunity because it's a great way to motivate them to try and really be creative during the quickfire, and we get to see some really interesting things as a result, which is fun :)<I>Would you have bought the frozen meat at the market?</I>Probably not<I>Were you surprised that neither of the challenges played on the fact that guest judge Wylie Dufresne is a molecular gastronomist?</I>Not really. I think it would be interesting, but molecular gastronomy is still kind of on the fringes, and the techniques aren't things that most chefs are going to be familiar with, unless they've made an effort to familiarize themselves. So throwing them in to do a dish using one of the MG techniques would, IMO, be a bit of an unfair challenge. Now, last weeks elimination challenge with the classics was totally different because those are things a decent chef *should* know, but MG just isn't there yet, and I suspect the results wouldn't be all that different than the menswear challenge on Project Runway this past season - LOL!.<I>Were you shocked to hear that Team Bear didn't taste their mushrooms before serving? Would you have let the judges taste those mushrooms?</I>Yeah - haven't these people watched the show? I mean, even if they don't know that they should taste everything before it goes out just as a general part of their professional practices (which they should,) if they'd watched any season of the show, they'd've heard more than a few times how important it is!And on the mushrooms, I wouldn't have let the judges have them. I would have explained that because they did not meet the level of quality I had expected, I was not serving them to the customers and would not be letting the judges sample them, either, because I can't stand behind them. If I got knocked off some points for that, I'd rather take it for refusing to serve substandard fare than to get docked for serving something I *knew* was bad.<I>Don't mean to be catty, but does anyone else think Erik needs a little presentation help?</I>Maybe a bit, but, I dunno, there's something about him that I just kind of like<I>Were you surprised that Andrew won?</I>Yeah - but I can see why. He had the glaciers that looked great and there was a lot of praise for his anchovy thing, too.<I>Do you think the right person went home?</I>Hard to say, but probably.<I>And finally, who are you rooting for now?</I>I really haven't picked a favourite yet. I dunno why, but Andrew cracks me up, so I don't mind having him around for the comedic value, and, like I said, Eric is oddly appealing to me. But as for who I think should win? Way, way too early for me to be picking a favourite.
bealotus bealotus 8 years
Kiddylnd,I agree. Sometimes they forget the simple basic things (cooking 101 stuff) like the chips on the salad. Even me that I am not that great of a cook I won't put chips on a salad that it's going to get saggy and yucky,just wait until the last minute and add it. But I also thing that the girl with the mushroom/blueberry turd deserved the boot, that combination sounds gross.
bealotus bealotus 8 years
Kiddylnd,I agree. Sometimes they forget the simple basic things (cooking 101 stuff) like the chips on the salad. Even me that I am not that great of a cook I won't put chips on a salad that it's going to get saggy and yucky,just wait until the last minute and add it. But I also thing that the girl with the mushroom/blueberry turd deserved the boot, that combination sounds gross.
bealotus bealotus 8 years
Kiddylnd,I agree.Sometimes they forget the simple basic things (cooking 101 stuff) like the chips on the salad. Even me that I am not that great of a cook I won't put chips on a salad that it's going to get saggy and yucky,just wait until the last minute and add it.But I also thing that the girl with the mushroom/blueberry turd deserved the boot, that combination sounds gross.
kiddylnd kiddylnd 8 years
I think the chick who let the judges taste the mushrooms should have been given the boot. You don't sabotage another contestant like that when the group decided NOT to present that dish. That was blatant. The creator knew it wasn't going to work, and the group decided not to use it. For her to throw (Dale is it?) under the bus like that is inexcusable.The one thing I was the most appalled at is that we are now in season 4...these folks should be READY for anything. This means knowing that you have to transport dishes when you are catering. Those chips should have been done or tossed BEFORE they left. Also, they should always think of an 'extra' dish as a backup in case one fails when you get to your destination. These folks obviously aren't paying attention.
kiddylnd kiddylnd 8 years
I think the chick who let the judges taste the mushrooms should have been given the boot. You don't sabotage another contestant like that when the group decided NOT to present that dish. That was blatant. The creator knew it wasn't going to work, and the group decided not to use it. For her to throw (Dale is it?) under the bus like that is inexcusable. The one thing I was the most appalled at is that we are now in season 4...these folks should be READY for anything. This means knowing that you have to transport dishes when you are catering. Those chips should have been done or tossed BEFORE they left. Also, they should always think of an 'extra' dish as a backup in case one fails when you get to your destination. These folks obviously aren't paying attention.
wingedkiare wingedkiare 8 years
1. Yes. I think that it makes the quickfire challenge more important to the chefs. 2. I would have made a meatless dish. 3. I was actually pleased - let the guest judges use their palates to judge, and let the keep the chefs guessing about what their challenges will be. 4. Who serves food that they didn't taste? Much less, who serves food to the judges that you didn't think was appropriate to serve to guests? 5. Erik definitely needs help with presentation. 6. No. Maybe, a little. But they really did seem to like the dish. 7. Whatsername definitely deserved to go home. If you haven't ever made blinis that weren't cooked fresh, don't do it. It's simple common sense. (I can forgive the chip incident because she didn't realize that she hadn't cooked them all the way through - had it cooked thoroughly, it would have stayed crisp) 8. I have no clue who I'm rooting for yet... it's a little too early. And finally, I can forgive Team Gorilla for incorporating meat. There weren't any outright rules saying that they couldn't utilize other ingredients, they did need to make the gorillas diet the centerpiece of the dishes. (However, I would have gone the vegetarian route, myself)
wingedkiare wingedkiare 8 years
1. Yes. I think that it makes the quickfire challenge more important to the chefs.2. I would have made a meatless dish.3. I was actually pleased - let the guest judges use their palates to judge, and let the keep the chefs guessing about what their challenges will be.4. Who serves food that they didn't taste? Much less, who serves food to the judges that you didn't think was appropriate to serve to guests?5. Erik definitely needs help with presentation.6. No. Maybe, a little. But they really did seem to like the dish.7. Whatsername definitely deserved to go home. If you haven't ever made blinis that weren't cooked fresh, don't do it. It's simple common sense. (I can forgive the chip incident because she didn't realize that she hadn't cooked them all the way through - had it cooked thoroughly, it would have stayed crisp)8. I have no clue who I'm rooting for yet... it's a little too early.And finally, I can forgive Team Gorilla for incorporating meat. There weren't any outright rules saying that they couldn't utilize other ingredients, they did need to make the gorillas diet the centerpiece of the dishes. (However, I would have gone the vegetarian route, myself)
bluecanary bluecanary 8 years
I can't think of a reason *for* the quickfires unless it's to give someone an edge for the big challenge, if not immunity then maybe more time/money to put into their dishes would be a good reward.The glacier thing Andrew made just looked lame to me, maybe it tasted great- but it looked like a giant urine colored blob. bleh. Besides, he gets on my last ever-loving-mother-f-ing nerve (see, I can drop the f-bomb too, *anybody* can fool! Get a vocabulary!!). He is just so freaking geeked out and paranoid all the time. Do they drug test on the show? Ugh. I'm not rooting for anything yet, except for Andrew to go home, and soon.Blini girl needed to go home. Who brings pre-fried food to a catered event and expects it to taste good? (I'm looking at you too chip girl, duh). My question: 2 rutabaga dishes in 2 episodes. Is there a trend that I'm not aware of?
bluecanary bluecanary 8 years
I can't think of a reason *for* the quickfires unless it's to give someone an edge for the big challenge, if not immunity then maybe more time/money to put into their dishes would be a good reward. The glacier thing Andrew made just looked lame to me, maybe it tasted great- but it looked like a giant urine colored blob. bleh. Besides, he gets on my last ever-loving-mother-f-ing nerve (see, I can drop the f-bomb too, *anybody* can fool! Get a vocabulary!!). He is just so freaking geeked out and paranoid all the time. Do they drug test on the show? Ugh. I'm not rooting for anything yet, except for Andrew to go home, and soon. Blini girl needed to go home. Who brings pre-fried food to a catered event and expects it to taste good? (I'm looking at you too chip girl, duh). My question: 2 rutabaga dishes in 2 episodes. Is there a trend that I'm not aware of?
javsmav javsmav 8 years
I thought the entire gorilla team should have been sent home for not following their food guidelines. I watch this show despite being a vegetarian and knowing that many of the dishes will be meat based. That's fine, I understand the industry and I watch because it's a fun show. But if your challenge is to cook vegetarian food, then cook vegetarian food!!! What are the vegetarians at the cocktail party supposed to eat? And wouldn't you think that people who care about the zoo and animals are people who are more likely to be vegetarian? I thought it was very rude and I'm glad that at least someone from their team went home, but I'm surprised that they didn't get called out on that.
j2e1n9 j2e1n9 8 years
Gail is an idiot who wears an ear piece so they can tell her what to say. Otherwise she would have no idea how to make commentary. Her hair is always covering her ears to hide it.
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 8 years
1. I think that in order for the quickfire challenge to be taken seriously by the chefs, there has to be a big prize attached to it, and what’s bigger than immunity? 2. I would not buy any meat that I cant actually tell what it looked like. 3. I am glad they didn’t go for the molecular gastronomy angle, First and foremost Wylie is a chef who should have a good palate for good food. 4. I wasn’t shocked, those three didn’t seem like they thought ahead even to tasting their food. And I wouldn’t have even let the judges have them! 5. I think erik does need help. 6. No, I wasn’t surprised it looked yummy 7. Yes, that girl (don’t even remember her name) and her Blinis that tasted like dirt deserved the boot. 8. No one yet, its too soon. Now if CJ were back on……..
dahippo dahippo 8 years
I don't mind that the QuickFire winner gets immunity, but it makes me wonder... what's the incentive for winning the ellimination challenge other than not getting elliminated? And surprisingly, the person I'm rooting for is Andrew. He came off a little over-the-top last week, but now he's just amusing. He's also seems to be really excited about everything, have you noticed that? And it was a little endearing how nervous he was when presenting to the judges.
splayer splayer 8 years
Not only had they not tasted the mushrooms, but they didn't serve them to the rest of the guests because they were cold! Based on that alone, I think Nikki or Dale should have been out.
partysugar partysugar 8 years
Why on earth would anyone serve the judges something they HAD NOT tasted?????
partysugar partysugar 8 years
Why on earth would anyone serve the judges something they HAD NOT tasted?????
mlen mlen 8 years
i missed Andrew's glaciers so maybe he should have won- however he's already getting on my nerves lol. i'm not necessarily sure the quickfire winner should get immunity but i thought mark did a great job in both contests. i think its silly they didn't taste the mushrooms- i mean they were bite-sized, pop one in your mouth already! i had no feelings either way towards valerie- she was very quiet. the other team dale and is it nikki? (sorry don't know all names yet) were annoying me though! i'm rooting for mark at the moment.
mlen mlen 8 years
i missed Andrew's glaciers so maybe he should have won- however he's already getting on my nerves lol. i'm not necessarily sure the quickfire winner should get immunity but i thought mark did a great job in both contests. i think its silly they didn't taste the mushrooms- i mean they were bite-sized, pop one in your mouth already! i had no feelings either way towards valerie- she was very quiet. the other team dale and is it nikki? (sorry don't know all names yet) were annoying me though! i'm rooting for mark at the moment.
SugarCat SugarCat 8 years
All I kept thinking whenever Wylie was on was how much he reminded me of John lennon!
mswender mswender 8 years
I am so happy that top chef is back and loved the marathon of season 1 yesterday, i had surgery so was watching it in the hospital and then continued while i got home, it is a lot of fun to watch while on a lot of pain killers! One to the questions, I think that the quickfire winner should get immunity. Mark really did a great job, it looked delicious. Then he really excelled during the elimination challenge! this was a challenge about fresh food not frozen meat! I would have liked to see the crazy science side of cooking with Wylie there. That's why Andrew won because he did the crazy glacier gellee and made a really good dish, I still don't like him though. I can't believe they didn't taste the mushrooms! Pecerinno romanno is such a strong cheese too! I wanted someone from that team to go home just because it was so ridiculous! I don't think Valerie was up to par though. I still like Richard, Jennifer, Stephanie, and Mark. sorry to go on and on, but I love top chef!
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