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chatondeneige chatondeneige 7 years
Hainan, that smiley makes me dizzy!
chatondeneige chatondeneige 7 years
Hainan, that smiley makes me dizzy!
stephley stephley 7 years
Definitely not an English major.
StolzeMama StolzeMama 7 years
the only thing that should be in the first stimulus bill should be things that will employ people within 6 months. Shovel ready. I've got about 2 miles of road here in my town that is half constructed because CA ran out of cash. The government can employ people to pick up on that asap. Figur out all of your other pet projects later when we actually have money
StolzeMama StolzeMama 7 years
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StolzeMama StolzeMama 7 years
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chatondeneige chatondeneige 7 years
OK, it's official, Michelin. She must be a troll. Semantics? Really, that's all she had left? :oy: I had to run off and work for a few hours, thanks for holding down the fort!
stephley stephley 7 years
Someday, I'm going to ask if rewording the other person's comments and adding thoughts to your own is intentional, but today go ahead and interpret things any way you'd like.
Michelann Michelann 7 years
"Then why are all those silly people excavating digs all over the world when they could be in libraries on campus? " Those are archeologists and paleontologists, not historians. Anyway, where do you think those people work? And who do you think funds their digs? Saying that the New Deal didn't fail isn't too different from saying it succeeded. But I'm glad you're willing to admit that there's nothing extreme about believing the program was a failure.
Michelann Michelann 7 years
"Then why are all those silly people excavating digs all over the world when they could be in libraries on campus? "Those are archeologists and paleontologists, not historians. Anyway, where do you think those people work? And who do you think funds their digs? Saying that the New Deal didn't fail isn't too different from saying it succeeded. But I'm glad you're willing to admit that there's nothing extreme about believing the program was a failure.
stephley stephley 7 years
Then why are all those silly people excavating digs all over the world when they could be in libraries on campus? I never said we've always known that the New Deal solved the Great Depression: I have never said that the New Deal solved the Great Depression: I have never said that anyone who says differently is 'just an extreme revisionist'. Responding to Org's statement "The New Deal has been tried, and it failed" I said "No it didn't, that's just the latest revision of history from the extreme right". Notice the difference between 'extreme revisionist' and 'extreme right'. Notice there is a difference between saying 'No it didn't (fail)' and saying 'the New Deal solved the Great Depression'. You revised my comments in order to validate "good, rational sense. As usual."
stephley stephley 7 years
Then why are all those silly people excavating digs all over the world when they could be in libraries on campus?I never said we've always known that the New Deal solved the Great Depression: I have never said that the New Deal solved the Great Depression: I have never said that anyone who says differently is 'just an extreme revisionist'. Responding to Org's statement "The New Deal has been tried, and it failed" I said "No it didn't, that's just the latest revision of history from the extreme right". Notice the difference between 'extreme revisionist' and 'extreme right'. Notice there is a difference between saying 'No it didn't (fail)' and saying 'the New Deal solved the Great Depression'. You revised my comments in order to validate "good, rational sense. As usual."
Michelann Michelann 7 years
No, I'm saying there's no better place to research history than in a college setting. Where do the big shot historians hang out? So let me get this straight. You say that we've always known the New Deal solved the Great Depression, and that anybody who now says differently is just a extreme revisionist. And then you support yourself by saying that our perceptions of history are constantly changing based on new research? Makes good, rational sense. As usual.
Michelann Michelann 7 years
No, I'm saying there's no better place to research history than in a college setting. Where do the big shot historians hang out? So let me get this straight. You say that we've always known the New Deal solved the Great Depression, and that anybody who now says differently is just a extreme revisionist. And then you support yourself by saying that our perceptions of history are constantly changing based on new research? Makes good, rational sense. As usual.
stephley stephley 7 years
Things like this Boston Globe article make me question your point Mich:"This just in: Martha Washington was hot. Or at least hotter than we thought.Our image of the mother of our country, vague and insubstantial as it is, is drawn from portraits painted after her death showing a frumpy, dumpy, plump old lady, a fussy jumble of needlework in her lap, wearing what could pass for a shower cap with pink sponge rollers underneath.But today, 250 years after Martha and George tied the knot, a handful of historians are seeking to revamp the former first lady's fusty image, using the few surviving records of things she wrote, asking forensic anthropologists to do a computerized age-regression portrait of her in her mid-20s and, perhaps most importantly, displaying for the first time in decades the avant-garde deep purple silk high heels studded with silver sequins that she wore on her wedding day.History is about to be revised."
stephley stephley 7 years
Things like this Boston Globe article make me question your point Mich: "This just in: Martha Washington was hot. Or at least hotter than we thought. Our image of the mother of our country, vague and insubstantial as it is, is drawn from portraits painted after her death showing a frumpy, dumpy, plump old lady, a fussy jumble of needlework in her lap, wearing what could pass for a shower cap with pink sponge rollers underneath. But today, 250 years after Martha and George tied the knot, a handful of historians are seeking to revamp the former first lady's fusty image, using the few surviving records of things she wrote, asking forensic anthropologists to do a computerized age-regression portrait of her in her mid-20s and, perhaps most importantly, displaying for the first time in decades the avant-garde deep purple silk high heels studded with silver sequins that she wore on her wedding day. History is about to be revised."
stephley stephley 7 years
Are you saying history is finite? That once something happens and immediate reaction comes in, that's it? No repercussions, no reactions, no results, no new information comes to light, no hidden agendas revealed? That hasn't been my experience but perhaps it will be yours.
stephley stephley 7 years
Are you saying history is finite? That once something happens and immediate reaction comes in, that's it? No repercussions, no reactions, no results, no new information comes to light, no hidden agendas revealed? That hasn't been my experience but perhaps it will be yours.
Michelann Michelann 7 years
". What a person writes as a college student often is seriously different from what that same person writes after they've actually experienced and worked with theories they only studied in college. " That would make sense if we were talking about some sort of practical, technical field like business. But we're talking about history. There's no way to 'experience and work with' history other than to research it like you would for a college paper.
Michelann Michelann 7 years
". What a person writes as a college student often is seriously different from what that same person writes after they've actually experienced and worked with theories they only studied in college. "That would make sense if we were talking about some sort of practical, technical field like business. But we're talking about history. There's no way to 'experience and work with' history other than to research it like you would for a college paper.
stephley stephley 7 years
A college paper, even one 'presumably full of facts and citations', still is a college paper. What a person writes as a college student often is seriously different from what that same person writes after they've actually experienced and worked with theories they only studied in college. Unfortunately, to understand that, a person has to be out of college for a while and gathering first hand experience. In the next few years, there's going to be nothing but opportunity to gather greater insight into what actually does help get a country through an economic crisis. The countries that do best in this global crisis most likely will be the ones with leaders who keep open minds, not the ones who hold tight to favored ideological theories.
stephley stephley 7 years
A college paper, even one 'presumably full of facts and citations', still is a college paper. What a person writes as a college student often is seriously different from what that same person writes after they've actually experienced and worked with theories they only studied in college. Unfortunately, to understand that, a person has to be out of college for a while and gathering first hand experience. In the next few years, there's going to be nothing but opportunity to gather greater insight into what actually does help get a country through an economic crisis. The countries that do best in this global crisis most likely will be the ones with leaders who keep open minds, not the ones who hold tight to favored ideological theories.
chatondeneige chatondeneige 7 years
Michelin, I've noticed that anyone who disagrees with her is "childish" and "petulant," but this is the first time I've ever been called a revisionist! WHOOOOOOOOO! Big day for me! :D But I definitely think she won't respond to my question about her knowledge of the fact. I mainly enjoy engaging her because she's simply hilarious. Sometimes I wonder if she's a troll or not.
chatondeneige chatondeneige 7 years
Michelin, I've noticed that anyone who disagrees with her is "childish" and "petulant," but this is the first time I've ever been called a revisionist! WHOOOOOOOOO! Big day for me! :D But I definitely think she won't respond to my question about her knowledge of the fact. I mainly enjoy engaging her because she's simply hilarious. Sometimes I wonder if she's a troll or not.
Michelann Michelann 7 years
Once again Steph denigrates higher learning. Apparently a college level paper presumably full of facts and citations is below her level. Chaton, don't bother. Anybody who disagrees with her interpretation of history is automatically an extreme right wing revisionist.
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