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$634 Billion Fund For Health Care — Right Prescription?

In the $3 trillion budget unveiled today, President Obama includes a $634 billion, 10-year healthcare reserve fund. The fund is considered a down payment for expanding health care. Half of the money will come from raising taxes on those earning over $250,000 a year and the other half on Medicare changes.

The plan would have private insurers who sell Medicare plans participate in a competitive bidding process, which could save about $175 billion over 10 years. Drug makers would have to increase medication rebates to Medicaid patients. Also, hospitals with high readmission rates would receive less Medicare funds.

Politico reports that Obama's priorities for healthcare reform include: maintaining choice of insurance and doctors, ensuring affordable coverage, protecting Americans financial health, investing in prevention and wellness, improving patient safety and quality of care while being fiscally responsible, sustainable, and portable. You can read more about the entire budget on this White House site.

Do you support spending $634 billion to advance these priorities?

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Grandpa Grandpa 7 years
genesisrock, which case is that that I made? This old coot makes so many cases, I lose track. ;-)
genesisrocks genesisrocks 7 years
Grandpa if you made that case I wouldn't argue with you by saying that never happens and saying you're spouting off about something you know nothing about like people are attacking Brandy.
BRANDYNICOLE730 BRANDYNICOLE730 7 years
I'm sorry for "spouting off" something you have no experience with, but it does happen. I know you will never watch Sicko, because Michael Moore is biased. I tried (to no avail) looking for the woman's name whose 2 year old daughter was allowed to die because the ambulance took her to a hospital not listed on her medical insurance. Just in the way that Michael Moore is biased, so are those of you (Hainan) who have worked for insurance companies and in hospitals. Excuse me for not trusting doctors who usually go into the profession for the amount of money they will get paid. It's easier to turn a blind eye when your salary depends on it.
Grandpa Grandpa 7 years
There are always horror stories you can find on any topic, and for any side of an argument, in a country as large and diverse as this. Putting together a number of tragic stories, I could make the case peanuts, should be declared a controlled substance, because of dangers to those hyper allergic, or that you need a license proving competency to own and operate a ladder.
genesisrocks genesisrocks 7 years
Brandy-I actually know people who have had stuff like that happen. And to all you naysayers don't say it doensn't because there are loopholes for every law.One of my family friends went to the hospital because he was having chest pain and no they didn't deny him service but since he didn't have insurance all they could do was give him an aspirin and tell him to come back later if it got worse. Since it wasn't considered "life threatening" they couldn't run any tests to see if anything else was wrong. When he got home it turned out he was having a heart attack and he died before the ambulance came to help.I hope this changes your mind for those of you who don't believe health care needs reform in some areas.
genesisrocks genesisrocks 7 years
Brandy- I actually know people who have had stuff like that happen. And to all you naysayers don't say it doensn't because there are loopholes for every law. One of my family friends went to the hospital because he was having chest pain and no they didn't deny him service but since he didn't have insurance all they could do was give him an aspirin and tell him to come back later if it got worse. Since it wasn't considered "life threatening" they couldn't run any tests to see if anything else was wrong. When he got home it turned out he was having a heart attack and he died before the ambulance came to help. I hope this changes your mind for those of you who don't believe health care needs reform in some areas.
chatondeneige chatondeneige 7 years
Brandy, that doesn't happen. Ever. There are laws that no one can be refused service.
StolzeMama StolzeMama 7 years
if you have an emergency room in the united states, you are subject to EMTALA.
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 7 years
Brandy, I dont know of any hospital that will refuse treating a patient because they do not have insurance, or that hospital isnt the one on the insurance. Not in my area anyway.The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act passed in 1986, and it requires hospitals and ambulance services to provide care to anyone needing emergency treatment regardless of citizenship, legal status or ability to pay. There are no reimbursement provisions. As a result of the act, patients needing emergency treatment can be discharged only under their own informed consent or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment.The act does only apply to participating hospitals, ones that are recieving funding from the DOH, Medicaid, Medicare, but in practical terms it covers all hospitals (except for shriners, and Veterans hospitals)
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 7 years
Brandy, I dont know of any hospital that will refuse treating a patient because they do not have insurance, or that hospital isnt the one on the insurance. Not in my area anyway. The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act passed in 1986, and it requires hospitals and ambulance services to provide care to anyone needing emergency treatment regardless of citizenship, legal status or ability to pay. There are no reimbursement provisions. As a result of the act, patients needing emergency treatment can be discharged only under their own informed consent or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment. The act does only apply to participating hospitals, ones that are recieving funding from the DOH, Medicaid, Medicare, but in practical terms it covers all hospitals (except for shriners, and Veterans hospitals)
BRANDYNICOLE730 BRANDYNICOLE730 7 years
There is a problem, when a doctor will allow a patient to die, because their insurance company doesn't want to cover the treatment. Or because the ambulance took them to the wrong hospital, one that is not covered by the insurance. The idea that the United States has the best healthcare in the world, is a joke. It's only the best if you can afford it, and well that's becoming increasing rare.
Grandpa Grandpa 7 years
Once we have Gov't control of medicine, I doubt you will see many knew pharmaceuticals. Can anyone point to a new drug that HAS NOT come from the United States in the last 30 years? Fifty years from now, I can see a world of Cubas, where you have a ruling elite, and absolute poverty, and not a whole lot in between. There are only so many taxes you can impose before folks just stop working, beyond the bare minimum to get by.
KathleenxCouture KathleenxCouture 7 years
Sorry, I just had so say something lol not trying to offend
KathleenxCouture KathleenxCouture 7 years
This is the beginning of Nationalized Healthcare which may seem like a good idea because it's free but when you actually stop to think about it rather than be spoon fed this nonsense by the media about how amazing it is in socialist nations with free health care you would know this:They are paying most of their income to taxesmore taxes means more governmentmore government means citizens have less controlthis means less freedomfreedom is what our country is based onnationalized healthcare would be a downward spiral into the abyss that is total government control which is what our fore fathers were against entirely and the entire reason for the constitution!in short: this is a bad ideabut of course, everyone knew it would happen eventually..psshh"Half of the money will come from raising taxes on those earning over $250,000"what about the self-employed/small business owners? Most of them qualify as earning over 250k annually but the majority of their money goes back into their businesses anyways or towards taxes and trust me, if you think upper class American citizens are just laying around spending their money and taking it all away from the poor people you would be wrong most of the time.
KathleenxCouture KathleenxCouture 7 years
This is the beginning of Nationalized Healthcare which may seem like a good idea because it's free but when you actually stop to think about it rather than be spoon fed this nonsense by the media about how amazing it is in socialist nations with free health care you would know this: They are paying most of their income to taxes more taxes means more government more government means citizens have less control this means less freedom freedom is what our country is based on nationalized healthcare would be a downward spiral into the abyss that is total government control which is what our fore fathers were against entirely and the entire reason for the constitution! in short: this is a bad idea but of course, everyone knew it would happen eventually..psshh "Half of the money will come from raising taxes on those earning over $250,000" what about the self-employed/small business owners? Most of them qualify as earning over 250k annually but the majority of their money goes back into their businesses anyways or towards taxes and trust me, if you think upper class American citizens are just laying around spending their money and taking it all away from the poor people you would be wrong most of the time.
mydiadem mydiadem 7 years
And I wasn't trying to label you, it just seemed that your points about personal responsibility somewhat clashed with the points about SCHIPs being available for children. I understand where you are coming from now.
mydiadem mydiadem 7 years
Fair points Kranky, I appreciate the clarification.
kranky kranky 7 years
moonlight-I feel the same way about you!:hug:
kranky kranky 7 years
moonlight- I feel the same way about you! :hug:
StolzeMama StolzeMama 7 years
you're welcome moonlight.I hope, for your sake, you are right about healthcare. But not for my sake (I kinda hope you are wrong :P )I am off for the day (to the gym). Have a great one ladies.
StolzeMama StolzeMama 7 years
you're welcome moonlight. I hope, for your sake, you are right about healthcare. But not for my sake (I kinda hope you are wrong :P ) I am off for the day (to the gym). Have a great one ladies.
genesisrocks genesisrocks 7 years
Thank God! It's about time!Okay I don't agree with punishing hospitals for high readmissions rates, but big picture it's time for reform.
genesisrocks genesisrocks 7 years
Thank God! It's about time! Okay I don't agree with punishing hospitals for high readmissions rates, but big picture it's time for reform.
StolzeMama StolzeMama 7 years
I have worked f/t for the last 10 years, while going to school, and raising 2 kids. With no help from my parents, who are probably the most fiscally irresponsible people I know. I have made some tough choices but have always had health insurance. I don't expect a thing from my federal government other than keeping me safe from foreign threats and infrastructure. I chose my path in life, i have to deal with the consequences that come from those decisions.
moonlight-spice moonlight-spice 7 years
Hainan and Kranky I would like to say I really appreciate what you have to say. An open dialog is crucial to solving problems and avoiding ideological boxes. I still think that single-payer is best, and I know something must be done, but as to the specifics you have given me much to consider.
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