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Ad-rageous: Wounded Vet Calls Out Barack Obama

The ad is a product of Vets for Freedom. They call themselves "a nonpartisan organization established by combat veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan." This wounded veteran featured has a scathing message for Barack Obama.

The Vets for Freedom's mission is to "educate the American public about the importance of achieving success in these conflicts by applying our first-hand knowledge to issues of American strategy and tactics in Iraq," and they "support policymakers from both sides of the aisle who have stood behind our great generation of American warriors on the battlefield, and who have put long-term national security before short-term partisan political gain."

The organization is a PAC. To see how a PAC is different from a 527,

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The FEC only requires a 527 group to file regular disclosure reports if it is a political party or if it advocates the election or defeat of a federal candidate or puts out electioneering communications.

A PAC raises and spends limited "hard" money contributions specifically for electing or defeating candidates. Organizations that raise soft money for issue advocacy may also set up a PAC. Most PACs represent business (like Microsoft) labor (like the Teamsters) or ideological interests (Emily's List or the NRA).

Do you think there's any difference in result between the efforts of a 527 and a PAC? Even though a 527 can't expressly advocate for a candidate, could the outcome be the same? Should they have to abide by the same rules as a PAC?

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ladychaos ladychaos 8 years
Jill, I think they're just mad he beat them to the punch...
Jillness Jillness 8 years
I just read that Obama went to Iraq in 2006. So they are complaining that he hasn't been there just in the past 2 years. That seems a little silly to me.
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 8 years
AMEN kastarte!
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
Just for clarification, Hillary went to Iraq Jan 13, 2007 - http://clinton.senate.gov/issues/nationalsecurity/iraq/trip_iraq.cfm John McCain visited Iraq March 16th, 2008 - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7299301.stm
sarah_bellum sarah_bellum 8 years
"the guy cant win in the arena of public opinion". LMAO! Poor old Obama getting shafted by the world. I really pity him...
sarah_bellum sarah_bellum 8 years
"the guy cant win in the arena of public opinion".LMAO! Poor old Obama getting shafted by the world. I really pity him...
kastarte2 kastarte2 8 years
When and if he is the nominee he should go to Iraq and have one on ones with military officials but he is not the nominee yet. Hilary is still very much in this and should not be counted out yet. If she is the nominee, she should "transfer to more Presidential duties" too. It's not over until the lady in the pants suit says it is.
flutterpie flutterpie 8 years
if he acts like the nominee, he is arrogant, if he doesnt then he doesnt care. the guy cant win in the arena of public opinion
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
Those other president "wannabes" didn't go to Iraq, but they also didn't get the nomination, and Barak is the Imminent DNC nominee. I would like to see him transfer to more Presidential duties, like getting the lowdown on Iraq in a private session with the person responsible for the goings on in Iraq, General Petreaus.
flutterpie flutterpie 8 years
hillary didnt say "oh yes i am setting up permanent bases in iraq" but she never denied that she would either. her hemming and hawing on the iraq issues and her voting record point to the fact that she is not as anti war as she portrays herself. and im sorry but i dont see why obama should go to iraq at this point. his concern right now should be collecting delegates and winning the nomination. if he were to go to iraq it would be nothing more than a photo op, which will take time away from him getting his message across to the delegates. did john edwards go to iraq when he was seeking the nod? did kucinich? i mean lets get real, we are still in a primary. lets stop putting expectations on him that we wouldnt put on anyone else. getting vets an education and health care after the war, thats a real issue. saying hello to every vet and general petreaus, not a real issue
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
"its pretty common knowledge that she has no intention of bringing the troops home and she will establish permanent bases in iraq." is that true? i never heard her say she wants to set up bases there :shrug: maybe i missed it also why is it that whenever any criticism of obama comes up, its always just something that is detracting from the "real" issues? i mean seriously, are we really to believe the man is impervious to all criticisms? i think not going to iraq and not meeting with veterans (if that part is true) is a REAL ISSUE.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
"its pretty common knowledge that she has no intention of bringing the troops home and she will establish permanent bases in iraq."is that true? i never heard her say she wants to set up bases there :shrug: maybe i missed italso why is it that whenever any criticism of obama comes up, its always just something that is detracting from the "real" issues? i mean seriously, are we really to believe the man is impervious to all criticisms? i think not going to iraq and not meeting with veterans (if that part is true) is a REAL ISSUE.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
"and its not about "wasting resources" when it comes to visiting iraq. its just for extra safety, which is worth going over there for. Talking to the people, the soliders, the citizens...seeing what its like...going to the place where war actually takes place is EXTREMELY important whether you are "wasting resources" or not. " thanks blondie! i agree 100%! also, its really low to expect a senator to drop everything and meet with you if you show up? i agreee but is it low to do that to a president and then refuse to leave and camp out for months outside his residence? i would think so but there are many people (not you specifically Jill) who would disagree based on politics. i would not be surprised in the least if we see an obama trip to iraq in the next few weeks... its not like he really needs to campaign more for right now.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
"and its not about "wasting resources" when it comes to visiting iraq. its just for extra safety, which is worth going over there for. Talking to the people, the soliders, the citizens...seeing what its like...going to the place where war actually takes place is EXTREMELY important whether you are "wasting resources" or not. "thanks blondie! i agree 100%!also, its really low to expect a senator to drop everything and meet with you if you show up? i agreee but is it low to do that to a president and then refuse to leave and camp out for months outside his residence?i would think so but there are many people (not you specifically Jill) who would disagree based on politics.i would not be surprised in the least if we see an obama trip to iraq in the next few weeks... its not like he really needs to campaign more for right now.
flutterpie flutterpie 8 years
mamasuri: hillary is not the one who wanted to bring the troops home right away, she said it would take over a year and it would be "a slow process, that she cannot put a time stamp on" its pretty common knowledge that she has no intention of bringing the troops home and she will establish permanent bases in iraq. as far as the ad goes, obama is still fighting for the democratic no mination, going to iraq is not as important as going to the states that are deciding his fate in the race. to be honest i just dont see the importance of it at this point in the game. should he do it if and when he is the actual democratic nominee? of course. it just seems like this ad is another shining bouncing ball to take voters attention away from the facts and the issues at hand. furthermore, if obama didnt care about vets then why is he pushing so hard for healthcare and education for them after they leave iraq?
flutterpie flutterpie 8 years
mamasuri: hillary is not the one who wanted to bring the troops home right away, she said it would take over a year and it would be "a slow process, that she cannot put a time stamp on" its pretty common knowledge that she has no intention of bringing the troops home and she will establish permanent bases in iraq. as far as the ad goes, obama is still fighting for the democratic nomination, going to iraq is not as important as going to the states that are deciding his fate in the race. to be honest i just dont see the importance of it at this point in the game. should he do it if and when he is the actual democratic nominee? of course. it just seems like this ad is another shining bouncing ball to take voters attention away from the facts and the issues at hand. furthermore, if obama didnt care about vets then why is he pushing so hard for healthcare and education for them after they leave iraq?
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 8 years
YAY!!! Drinks for everyone.. Happy Memorial Day everyone! :drinks:
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 8 years
YAY!!! Drinks for everyone.. Happy Memorial Day everyone!:drinks:
ladychaos ladychaos 8 years
My apologies if I came off rude. Ok, so how about martinis for all of the ladies? Drinks are on me!
ladychaos ladychaos 8 years
My apologies if I came off rude. Ok, so how about martinis for all of the ladies? Drinks are on me!
stephley stephley 8 years
yeah, it's a holiday - we should relax!
Jillness Jillness 8 years
One more thing I have to point out...I have read that Obama was getting hassled while in the Senate in regards to international trips that he was taking. When he was trying to get his paperwork to go to Russia when he was researching Non-Proliferation legislation, they were delayed because of authorization that some suggested was based on partisan bias. I believe I read about this in Newsweek, but it was several months ago. Perhaps a trip to Iraq was delayed as well.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
One more thing I have to point out... I have read that Obama was getting hassled while in the Senate in regards to international trips that he was taking. When he was trying to get his paperwork to go to Russia when he was researching Non-Proliferation legislation, they were delayed because of authorization that some suggested was based on partisan bias. I believe I read about this in Newsweek, but it was several months ago. Perhaps a trip to Iraq was delayed as well.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
Nice! :)
Jillness Jillness 8 years
Nice! :)
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