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Arresting Hope? Security for Dem Convention Upsets Activists

Denver police worry that Democrats will bring unrest to the city, instead of hope, during next week's national convention. The city has built a secret jail just for the occasion. Officials say they need the extra facility, built in a former warehouse, just in case police make mass arrests during the convention.

Civil liberties activists think Denver should feel ashamed of its "Gitmo on the Platte." They say the police want to take short cuts by detaining people instead of using the courts and other proper methods to fight crime. Opponents also worry about the conditions, since the city is using a former storage facility as a jail. Nonetheless, the city says it needed the formerly-secret jail for the event, and officials note it even has air conditioning.

The Secret Service, Pentagon, and FBI will relocate thousands of agents to Denver next week. To find out what other security measures are in the works,

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In addition to building secret prisons, Denver will also shut down its downtown freeway during Barack Obama's acceptance speech and the Mail High Stadium for security reasons. The city fears that the historic nature of the convention, and the widespread attention, will attract thousands of potentially unruly demonstrators.

While I hope the city doesn't sequester Americans exercising their constitutional rights, Denver does have an interest in keeping order. But is it possible that law enforcement officials have exaggerated the threat at the cost of taxpayers and civil liberties?

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MD-Free MD-Free 8 years
MD-Free MD-Free 8 years
I told you they would find use for the prison.
MD-Free MD-Free 8 years
This one is an ABC Producer at the DNC:
MD-Free MD-Free 8 years
See how they were chased and help captive on a street block!
MD-Free MD-Free 8 years
I realize this post is old now, but the footage from the DNC proves my point about unruly police. I know there were some unruly protesters, yes they get in the way of peaceful protesters. unfortunately there are many peaceful protesters that are victimized. See following:
MD-Free MD-Free 8 years
I was expecting you weren't going to understand what I meant by mob mentality and be offended. It is a subject I would like to elaborate more on at a different time. I will be transcribing an old radio interview/conversation and I will post it as a blog when I am done. There was a point about democracy that relates. I already have permission from the source. When I get to it, I can let you know the blog is posted if you would like. Also, back to your question, I know your views are different than mine, so I don't expect you to change them over night. I am pleased that you read my perspective and think about it. It is all I can ask.
MD-Free MD-Free 8 years
I was expecting you weren't going to understand what I meant by mob mentality and be offended.It is a subject I would like to elaborate more on at a different time.I will be transcribing an old radio interview/conversation and I will post it as a blog when I am done. There was a point about democracy that relates. I already have permission from the source.When I get to it, I can let you know the blog is posted if you would like.Also, back to your question, I know your views are different than mine, so I don't expect you to change them over night.I am pleased that you read my perspective and think about it. It is all I can ask.
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
Why is that?! What were you expecting?
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
Why is that?! What were you expecting?
MD-Free MD-Free 8 years
Ok. I was expecting worse, but I can deal with that. Have a good day.
MD-Free MD-Free 8 years
Ok. I was expecting worse, but I can deal with that.Have a good day.
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
You're right. Anti-war people aren't my enemy. The people who think it's ok to abuse the very people who protect them are my enemy.
MD-Free MD-Free 8 years
You have the mob mentality! You bang with the most powerful mob if you realize these things and it doesn't bother you. You don't know who your enemy is. It isn't me or someone who is anti-war.....
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
"Yes, there is and was contempt against the military and the police and for good reason." I understand that people in the 60's were angry and scared. They took it out on the police force. Police officers were targeted and killed, ridiculed, ir spat apon by "law abiding citizens". Those same officers were then called into question if they didn't come forward and protect those same citizens fast enough. "If you were being shot at... in the defense of the people you knew were being drafted and killed and drafted and killed and killed and drafted how would you react?" I wouldn't be shot at because I wouldn't join the "mob mentality" that equates bombing recruiting offices with saving lives. I agree that the draft was a bad thing. It's been removed and doesn't have a prayer of being revived. If the idiot children from the greatest generation had tried peacful demonstrations, as opposed to open warfare against the government, fewer casualties would've resulted. "I can't help but wonder if you realize how much the Federal Reserve and weapons manufactures profit (this war gets even more profit from rebuilding project/billions and billions of dollars) from war while taxpayers and their children die and loose jobs and get in debt and loose their homes for these people to profit?" Yes, I understand that weapons manufacturers make a TON of money from all governments. Those weapons go to our soldiers and help keep us safe. If you want to be rich, create a gun, manufacture it, and sell it to the government. My point is that isn't germane to the mobs of '68 or the police over-reaction.
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
"Yes, there is and was contempt against the military and the police and for good reason."I understand that people in the 60's were angry and scared. They took it out on the police force. Police officers were targeted and killed, ridiculed, ir spat apon by "law abiding citizens". Those same officers were then called into question if they didn't come forward and protect those same citizens fast enough."If you were being shot at... in the defense of the people you knew were being drafted and killed and drafted and killed and killed and drafted how would you react?"I wouldn't be shot at because I wouldn't join the "mob mentality" that equates bombing recruiting offices with saving lives. I agree that the draft was a bad thing. It's been removed and doesn't have a prayer of being revived. If the idiot children from the greatest generation had tried peacful demonstrations, as opposed to open warfare against the government, fewer casualties would've resulted."I can't help but wonder if you realize how much the Federal Reserve and weapons manufactures profit (this war gets even more profit from rebuilding project/billions and billions of dollars) from war while taxpayers and their children die and loose jobs and get in debt and loose their homes for these people to profit?"Yes, I understand that weapons manufacturers make a TON of money from all governments. Those weapons go to our soldiers and help keep us safe. If you want to be rich, create a gun, manufacture it, and sell it to the government. My point is that isn't germane to the mobs of '68 or the police over-reaction.
MD-Free MD-Free 8 years
I get what you are saying. Like I stated, people do crazy things when crazy things are happening. Yes, there is and was contempt against the military and the police and for good reason. People got and get beat up and killed all the time by the police and they almost always get away with it. If you were being shot at... in the defense of the people you knew were being drafted and killed and drafted and killed and killed and drafted how would you react? I can't help but wonder if you realize how much the Federal Reserve and weapons manufactures profit (this war gets even more profit from rebuilding project/billions and billions of dollars) from war while taxpayers and their children die and loose jobs and get in debt and loose their homes for these people to profit? Follow the money, who pays the deficit and who gets paid from the deficit? I wish I were wrong but I have spent good time researching this stuff and it is scary but it is true. All I can do, is beg you to reconsider everything you know to be true. I know your views are different then mine so I have no goal to win an argument for egos sake!!!! I hope you understand, I write what I write for the sake of your children's future, I promise! Do the math, it's ill!
MD-Free MD-Free 8 years
I get what you are saying. Like I stated, people do crazy things when crazy things are happening.Yes, there is and was contempt against the military and the police and for good reason.People got and get beat up and killed all the time by the police and they almost always get away with it.If you were being shot at... in the defense of the people you knew were being drafted and killed and drafted and killed and killed and drafted how would you react?I can't help but wonder if you realize how much the Federal Reserve and weapons manufactures profit (this war gets even more profit from rebuilding project/billions and billions of dollars) from war while taxpayers and their children die and loose jobs and get in debt and loose their homes for these people to profit?Follow the money, who pays the deficit and who gets paid from the deficit? I wish I were wrong but I have spent good time researching this stuff and it is scary but it is true.All I can do, is beg you to reconsider everything you know to be true. I know your views are different then mine so I have no goal to win an argument for egos sake!!!!I hope you understand, I write what I write for the sake of your children's future, I promise! Do the math, it's ill!
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
WOW. So you're saying the problems with the 68 convention are completely the police's fault? How about we put the blame where it belongs, with both sides. The police overreacted, but the "peaceful" protesters weren't peaceful by any stretch of the imagination. Your family members are conveniently forgeting the targeting of police and the general disregard and contempt held by the public against the military and police.
MD-Free MD-Free 8 years
They built an extra jail, they will make it worth the money! My family is from Chicago and I read some articles and asked my relatives who lived through that. 1. The Vietnam war ended 7 or 8 years after the convention in 68. To me this shows that the people and the ACLU didn't matter to politicians at the time. The people assassinated thereafter had voice and following in their activism. 2. At the 68 convention someone threw a bottle and police shot live bullets into the crowd killing 7 people and injuring non-violent resistance. People do crazy things when crazy things are happening. You both are proving further the problem with this. You think there aren't trigger happy police waiting to make false allegations and hit protesters with rubber bullets and pepper spray? Do I need to bring up the 10 most recent public abuses of police power resulting in death to innocent people? Everyone knows that is an epidemic. How come there is not better police training for crowd control? It should not be all right for a new jail to be built rather than training. None of the recent anti-war protests have had the same problems that were in the Vietnam war. They have a designated place to protest these days. The convention of 68 was when police got the name pigs. Thanks for the info! Can set up a watch dog group to arrest unruly police?
MD-Free MD-Free 8 years
They built an extra jail, they will make it worth the money! My family is from Chicago and I read some articles and asked my relatives who lived through that.1. The Vietnam war ended 7 or 8 years after the convention in 68. To me this shows that the people and the ACLU didn't matter to politicians at the time. The people assassinated thereafter had voice and following in their activism.2. At the 68 convention someone threw a bottle and police shot live bullets into the crowd killing 7 people and injuring non-violent resistance. People do crazy things when crazy things are happening.You both are proving further the problem with this. You think there aren't trigger happy police waiting to make false allegations and hit protesters with rubber bullets and pepper spray?Do I need to bring up the 10 most recent public abuses of police power resulting in death to innocent people? Everyone knows that is an epidemic.How come there is not better police training for crowd control? It should not be all right for a new jail to be built rather than training. None of the recent anti-war protests have had the same problems that were in the Vietnam war. They have a designated place to protest these days.The convention of 68 was when police got the name pigs. Thanks for the info!Can set up a watch dog group to arrest unruly police?
True-Song True-Song 8 years
Agreed!
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 8 years
Love the mugshots! MD Free: Read up on the Democratic convention in Chicago in 1968. Try not to read *current* recollections, go back to the original news reports, if possible. That's what people are (understandably) eager to avoid. Hence the group "Recreate '68". IMO detaining unruly protesters actually permits the rest of the conventioneers to exercise their freedom of speech. I think *both* parties are entitled to have peaceful and constructive conventions.
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 8 years
Love the mugshots! MD Free: Read up on the Democratic convention in Chicago in 1968. Try not to read *current* recollections, go back to the original news reports, if possible. That's what people are (understandably) eager to avoid. Hence the group "Recreate '68". IMO detaining unruly protesters actually permits the rest of the conventioneers to exercise their freedom of speech. I think *both* parties are entitled to have peaceful and constructive conventions.
True-Song True-Song 8 years
>Have there been any protests at any other democratic or Obama conventions? Wait, seriously? Because there are huge protests planned by Tent State University, the Alliance for Real Democracy, Unconventional Denver, Unconventional Action, and Recreate '68 (the last of which, notably, have not pledged to remain non-violent). >On a serious note, what is the point of an extra jail? If violence breaks out, it could easily, easily start a massive riot, and if there are mass arrests, where do you propose they put them? >Who is profiting from it? Who is paying for it...the tax payer! Whoever built the thing. And it's paid for by taxes, and I imagine the citizens of Denver are more than happy to have the extra security. >When did it become all right for jails to be set up to stop free speech? Just because they've created extra jail space doesn't mean they're going to throw in every hippie with a picket sign. There are going to be tens of thousands of extra people in Downtown Denver, probably concentrated within a few square miles, and a lot of them are coming specifically to try to disrupt the convention. It's not so crazy to think there will be a spike in criminal activity, and possibly violent protests. I am an ACLU-loving liberal, and even I don't see any problem with beefing up security like this. I don't see how preparing extra jail space steps on the first amendment.
janneth janneth 8 years
Maybe cabaker could bake a cupcake with a file in it to facilitate the prison break.
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