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Big Brother Is Watching Americans and Britons

The Justice Department wants to make it easier for state and local police to spy on Americans, and retain the information they find for at least 10 years. The Feds want to streamline how the country's 18,000 state and local agencies share sensitive information with them, and simplify data collection for these organizations, which receive $1.6 billion from the federal government annually.

Critics worry that the plan does not adequately safeguard who has access to sensitive information. They also maintain that the Constitution forbids preemptive law enforcement in the absence of a crime.

The new US plan makes me think the former colony wants to be more like its big brother Great Britain. To see how,

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According to The Sunday Telegraph the average Briton has 3,254 bits of personal information stored in government databases. Officials can keep some of that data indefinitely! So what kind of dirt does the government dig up? — details about residents' shopping habits, mobile phone use, emails, locations during the day, travel, and Internet searches. Because companies, like banks and telephone providers, keep all this information on hand, it's easy for the government to assert their legal authority to retrieve it.

Have we traveled back to 1984, or are we just updating our crime fighting for the modern era?

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Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
So agreed!
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
So agreed!
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 7 years
"personal finance classes in middle and high school" I agree they should be a prerequisite for graduation.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 7 years
"personal finance classes in middle and high school"I agree they should be a prerequisite for graduation.
yesteryear yesteryear 7 years
michelin you're right. i've argued for personal finance classes in middle and high school for a long time. some people don't come from a family with good financial role models... i sure didn't. this makes it doubly hard to pull yourself out of a cycle of bad money management.
Michelann Michelann 7 years
In relation to what everybody is saying about credit and how people misuse it; I think credit is one of the biggest problems in American society. Both literally and figuratively. People feel entitled to something they haven't earned, so they put it on credit, and when they can't pay for it they declare bankruptcy. That's more or less the reason for the housing crisis. People want houses they can't afford, so they take mortgages without reading or understanding the fine print. Then they end up defaulting. Of course the underlying problem is that credit is too cheap because the interest rates are too low (thank you, Federal Reserve). Anyway, my point is that people are not educated about these things. In high school you have to take complicated, higher math and science courses. You have to take theory of government. But there are no classes teaching you how to manage your money. Nobody that explains how to do your taxes. It's illogical. If we're trying to make good citizens in our public schools, we need to teach people how to do these things. Still, I have no sympathy for them. If a school won't teach you, it's your job to learn.
Michelann Michelann 7 years
In relation to what everybody is saying about credit and how people misuse it; I think credit is one of the biggest problems in American society. Both literally and figuratively. People feel entitled to something they haven't earned, so they put it on credit, and when they can't pay for it they declare bankruptcy. That's more or less the reason for the housing crisis. People want houses they can't afford, so they take mortgages without reading or understanding the fine print. Then they end up defaulting. Of course the underlying problem is that credit is too cheap because the interest rates are too low (thank you, Federal Reserve). Anyway, my point is that people are not educated about these things. In high school you have to take complicated, higher math and science courses. You have to take theory of government. But there are no classes teaching you how to manage your money. Nobody that explains how to do your taxes. It's illogical. If we're trying to make good citizens in our public schools, we need to teach people how to do these things. Still, I have no sympathy for them. If a school won't teach you, it's your job to learn.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 7 years
This is one of those things that's like a street light. Enough people get hit the city finally puts in a street light. In the case of privacy enough effective terrorist attacks and our privacy will be a treasure discussed in history books.
hartsfull hartsfull 7 years
:rotfl: I thought it might be something like that. :) Well, maybe you'll find some nice articles in the magazines in the waiting room. :)
hartsfull hartsfull 7 years
:rotfl: I thought it might be something like that. :) Well, maybe you'll find some nice articles in the magazines in the waiting room. :)
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
Hi, my name is Cathy and I'm going to check your cervix. lol, yeah it's a blast.
hartsfull hartsfull 7 years
fooey! It's time for me to go too. :( bye! :wave:
hartsfull hartsfull 7 years
fooey! It's time for me to go too. :(bye! :wave:
hartsfull hartsfull 7 years
Have fun at the doctors! :) JK ;)
hartsfull hartsfull 7 years
Bye GS! :wave:
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
I am off to a dr.'s appt. Won't be back on till this afternoon. Happy posting!
True-Song True-Song 7 years
The club cards are weird. I actually always used to use my friend's (just using the phone number) and I liked to think we threw them off by both using it different states. It also weirds me out that my credit card company knows so much about me since I pay everything with it and then just pay it off every month, but I like the cash back.
hartsfull hartsfull 7 years
One thing you could do. Is get a credit card, but pay the entire balance every month. That's what we do. My husband refuses to have loans. Except for real estate, he insists on paying for things right away. I had to stop reading at # 8. Only because I had to say what I was thinking or I might forget. :oy: :nerdgirl: Also, I have to leave again and dang it I want to be involved at least a little! :fogey:
yesteryear yesteryear 7 years
hmm... in the states we have a cell phone company called 'metro pcs' that doesn't require credit checks or contracts - its pay as you go. the downside is they have awful reception. anyway - go forward with your credit-free life. if you're interested, there are lots of websites/blogs out there about people living credit free. you might check them out - if anything it will make you feel like you're accomplishing something rather than just feeling frustrated. best of luck to you.
nyaradzom2001 nyaradzom2001 7 years
they say it's a lack of credit all international students get that here, you get rejected at least once and most try again and get it after a fight but i'm not interested, i have one more year so i'll deal with it. even to get a phone lol you get hassles cos youhave no credit. it doesn't matter if you have an account at the banks here they are all pretty f-ed up.
yesteryear yesteryear 7 years
hmm... so is your lack of credit the only problem? sounds like there is something else going on if you are trying to get a card through the same bank where you have an account. usually they will give you a $500 limit to start and after a few months you can ask them to up it.
nyaradzom2001 nyaradzom2001 7 years
i didn't i was so pissed off i didn't call the bank back to her about other options. I pay taxes like clockwork, i have pension already put away for me by the canadian gvnt even though i'm not canadian and as far as i know i wasn't on any pension plan and i intened to leave next year. I'm good for all that they even take e.I from my cheque and i don't get it when i'm not working but I can't get a fracking card. it makes me so mad.
yesteryear yesteryear 7 years
yes Nya, GS is right -- you have to do what is called "establishing credit". don't ask me how - when i got started i had to get a family member to cosign on a credit card... but my credit was already screwed up due to unpaid medical debt i had from an illness when i was 22 and uninsured. so did you get the card? if you did, do what GS said - make sure to pay it off in full each month.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
And Nya, when my husband and I bought our home, I couldn't sign on the mortgage papers because my no credit hurt us. When we refinanced a year or so ago I was able to sign in because I got a couple of cards that I spend $50 dollars on a month and then easily pay them. It feels so silly, but it is unfortunately necessary in this country.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
:rotfl: That it is YY.
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