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lilkimbo lilkimbo 7 years
I think the key word is "classified." I don't see the White House giving out classified information just because McClellan wrote a book. Just because they aren't giving a factual rebuttal doesn't mean that one doesn't exist. the word classified also explains why people like UnDave may not be able to give a factual rebuttal. UnDave was not there to witness events that took place in the Bush White House. (That we know of.) McClellan didn't even witness some of the events he wrote about. And the issue of the advance just shows why it would be more lucrative for McClellan to write a controversial book. Since he got a smaller advance, he probably gets a larger percentage of the sales. (I don't know the exact details of his deal, but I know that's how it usually works.)
lilkimbo lilkimbo 7 years
I think the key word is "classified." I don't see the White House giving out classified information just because McClellan wrote a book. Just because they aren't giving a factual rebuttal doesn't mean that one doesn't exist. the word classified also explains why people like UnDave may not be able to give a factual rebuttal. UnDave was not there to witness events that took place in the Bush White House. (That we know of.) McClellan didn't even witness some of the events he wrote about.And the issue of the advance just shows why it would be more lucrative for McClellan to write a controversial book. Since he got a smaller advance, he probably gets a larger percentage of the sales. (I don't know the exact details of his deal, but I know that's how it usually works.)
janneth janneth 7 years
Nothing to shoot down, steph.
janneth janneth 7 years
Nothing to shoot down, steph.
stephley stephley 7 years
"The White House reviewed the final manuscript for classification and privilege issues. After the review I met with some members of the White House counsel's office at their request to discuss the review. As I expected, there were no issues relating to classified information. They did bring up some issues relating to what they might consider executive privilege, including presidential conversations and conversations between senior advisers to the president." (MSNBC via Huff Post)Now I'm really curious why the White House wasn't ready with a fact-based shoot down.
stephley stephley 7 years
"The White House reviewed the final manuscript for classification and privilege issues. After the review I met with some members of the White House counsel's office at their request to discuss the review. As I expected, there were no issues relating to classified information. They did bring up some issues relating to what they might consider executive privilege, including presidential conversations and conversations between senior advisers to the president." (MSNBC via Huff Post) Now I'm really curious why the White House wasn't ready with a fact-based shoot down.
stephley stephley 7 years
Can't wait, but remember, I want FACTUAL rebuttal points.
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
I haven't seen the book yet Stephley, when I get it, I'll give you some factual rebuttals :)
stephley stephley 7 years
FYI: still can't find a factual rebuttal.
stephley stephley 7 years
I saw a conservative site that made the Soros/Public Affairs argument, but if Soros was waving money, McClellan was an idiot too take such a pitiful advance: "But McClellan hardly took home Tenet's $4 million advance. Nor did he garner a $1.5 million advance, like Bush political adviser Karl Rove. Heck, doughy little McClellan couldn't even get "mid-to-high six figures" like Bush counterterrorism adviser Richard Clarke. It turns out the Bush mouthpiece took in less than $100,000 up-front on his book deal, according to Salon — about $75,000, said an AP source. It turns out his wonky publisher PublicAffairs didn't think he would deliver the goods." He's gonna have to sell a lot of books to be considered well off in this economy.
stephley stephley 7 years
I saw a conservative site that made the Soros/Public Affairs argument, but if Soros was waving money, McClellan was an idiot too take such a pitiful advance:"But McClellan hardly took home Tenet's $4 million advance. Nor did he garner a $1.5 million advance, like Bush political adviser Karl Rove. Heck, doughy little McClellan couldn't even get "mid-to-high six figures" like Bush counterterrorism adviser Richard Clarke. It turns out the Bush mouthpiece took in less than $100,000 up-front on his book deal, according to Salon — about $75,000, said an AP source. It turns out his wonky publisher PublicAffairs didn't think he would deliver the goods." He's gonna have to sell a lot of books to be considered well off in this economy.
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
Bob Dole hasn't had his name in the news for YEARS. Any chance to get in the news is a good thing for Bob Dole.
flutterpie flutterpie 7 years
sorry im not a bush fan and i think katrina was a mess and the war an even bigger mess but this whole thing reeks of george soros waving a dollar in the air and McC (thanks janneth) biting.
janneth janneth 7 years
Yes, steph. So what is the next step. Hasn't McC been called before some committee that wants to question him? This just might be something to get Rove with.
stephley stephley 7 years
"because if all these awful things were happening, and perhaps some may have been"This line is from Dole's email - maybe this is why the Repubs aren't going after him on the facts. They don't dare.
stephley stephley 7 years
"because if all these awful things were happening, and perhaps some may have been" This line is from Dole's email - maybe this is why the Repubs aren't going after him on the facts. They don't dare.
janneth janneth 7 years
Of course I am happy that Mclellan revealed all this about the Bushies. But am I the only one who thinks that Dole raised a good point about his waiting all this time to speak up? He may have been able to get an investigation going. Lives may have been saved.
janneth janneth 7 years
Of course I am happy that Mclellan revealed all this about the Bushies.But am I the only one who thinks that Dole raised a good point about his waiting all this time to speak up?He may have been able to get an investigation going. Lives may have been saved.
stephley stephley 7 years
I forgot about that third person thing - very funny Bella!
Beauty Beauty 7 years
Bob Dole is not happy! Bob Dole enjoys the chance to speak as Bob Dole in the third person!This Bob Dole agrees with Stephley. Bob Dole thinks it's better to debate facts and opinions without getting personal about it.
Beauty Beauty 7 years
Bob Dole is not happy! Bob Dole enjoys the chance to speak as Bob Dole in the third person! This Bob Dole agrees with Stephley. Bob Dole thinks it's better to debate facts and opinions without getting personal about it.
stephley stephley 7 years
A) If Dole doesn't know enough to factually defend Bush against McClellan's claims, then maybe he should back off - supposing he calls McClellan all these terrible names and then finds out McClellan is right?B) Dole should at least be able to say something positive: 'I know George Bush and to suggest that the President of the United States is a puppet of the Vice President is a ridiculous claim. He's an extremely knowledgable, leader with create integrity.' or let's try 'To suggest that the Republicans in Congress would go along with a propaganda campaign and put our military personnel in harms way is a hideous untruth that insults the integrity not only of the Bush Administration but every member of Congress.'But he doesn't and neither is anyone else.
stephley stephley 7 years
A) If Dole doesn't know enough to factually defend Bush against McClellan's claims, then maybe he should back off - supposing he calls McClellan all these terrible names and then finds out McClellan is right? B) Dole should at least be able to say something positive: 'I know George Bush and to suggest that the President of the United States is a puppet of the Vice President is a ridiculous claim. He's an extremely knowledgable, leader with create integrity.' or let's try 'To suggest that the Republicans in Congress would go along with a propaganda campaign and put our military personnel in harms way is a hideous untruth that insults the integrity not only of the Bush Administration but every member of Congress.' But he doesn't and neither is anyone else.
liliblu liliblu 7 years
Dole and others are attacking McClellan personally but not the truth of what he says. I think that stands out more than "That's not the Scotty I knew" or the "miserable creature" quotes.
yesteryear yesteryear 7 years
man... bob dole looks like morla the ancient one from the neverending story!! watch out if he sneezes!
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