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Bush Readies the Offshore Drill, Should Congress Say Yes?

President Bush thinks offshore drilling might be the Nicorette gum America needs to kick its oil addiction. Yesterday Bush lifted the executive ban on offshore drilling imposed by his father, removing one hurdle for exploration.

Bush explained:

"This means that the only thing standing between the American people and these vast oil resources is action from the US Congress. Now the ball is squarely in Congress's court."

Answering Bush, Speaker Nancy Pelosi said:

“Once again, the oilman in the White House is echoing the demands of Big Oil. The Bush plan is a hoax. It will neither reduce gas prices nor increase energy independence."

Considering the current oil crisis, Bush thinks America has no choice but to take advantage of its own resources. Opponents fear environmental impact, and say the plan would take a decade to produce results, while ignoring alternative energy priorities. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says oil companies should explore the 68 millions of acres already available. Should Congress follow the President's lead?

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kh61582 kh61582 7 years
You people that are anti drilling ought to unplug from CNN long enough to learn the facts. It could take as little as two years for us to see the oil we can drill for now. Prices have gone down just at the talk of drilling so don't even try to argue that it wouldn't immediately help the price. Also, one big issue that I think it's odd no one is talking about, let's say for the sake of argument that it would take 10 or 20 years who cares? We will still need the help 10 and 20 years from now. Face it tree huggers, oil isn't going away anytime soon. The point should be that we produce our own resources and don't' have this problem 10 years from now because we didn't act. We would have that oil now if Bill Clinton hadn't stood in the way 10 years AGO.
True-Song True-Song 8 years
Oh, probably. I was trying to catch up on posts and didn't read all of them.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
Is that the same one people were discussing earlier?
True-Song True-Song 8 years
Re: "I'm curious as to how the electric car failed if it was compatable to 90% of the population, and cost as much to drive, if the price of gas was 60 cents/gallon." You should watch the movie "Who Killed the Electric Car?" It's a whole documentary about this issue and it is completely fascinating.
MartiniLush MartiniLush 8 years
Ah, yes, WI winters...got my bachelor's at the University of Wisconsin, and met my husband there. I can't say I miss those crazy winters - they are INHUMAN! Nope, no little electric car (as they exist today anyway) is gonna get you through one of those! I am with you on the global warming joke - but I think it is really bringing global cooling - well at least here in the NW - our winters are becoming worse and worse! BOO HISS! :-(
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
I agree. And if it doesn't handle snow well, it wouldn't wrok at all in WI. It seems like we just finally got rid of the snow, and are now really into summer. Come on global warming! Bring me back a 5 month summer!
MartiniLush MartiniLush 8 years
Dave, there are tons of electric cars here in Seattle, I see them all over the place. Another big thing out here is biodiesel (which really just creates it's own problems or worsens others, but I digress). I was chatting up a guy who had one of these electric cars (which are super tiny 2 seat thingys, BTW) and he said that it is awesome except for in severe weather, like snow. We rarely get snow in Seattle, but did get some this winter and he said it was useless to try to drive it. It didn't have the power or weight. Maybe that could be a reason why the electric car didn't really take off in the first place? I'm speculating...the answer would be interesting to know, though.
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
Also, if the technology is there, why aren't we hearing more about it. Surely there are enough entrepeneurs who see the value in producing electric cars, especially if those cars behave like the movie says, and with gas prices as high as they are, and climbing.
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
I saw that, thanks.  I'm curious as to how the electric car failed if it was compatable to 90% of the population, and cost as much to drive, if the price of gas was 60 cents/gallon. Could it be also that the batteries drained easily, and took a lot of time to refill? I'm just asking questions in the dark here.
MartiniLush MartiniLush 8 years
Here is a link to the sony pictures site: http://www.sonyclassics.com/whokilledtheelectriccar/it has a synopsis, a trailer, etc. Enjoy!
MartiniLush MartiniLush 8 years
Here is a link to the sony pictures site: http://www.sonyclassics.com/whokilledtheelectriccar/ it has a synopsis, a trailer, etc. Enjoy!
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
I've not heard of the movie "Who killed the electric car". Can someone please tell me about it?
stephley stephley 8 years
I think Bettyjane's right - until people can figure out how to get filthy rich off alternative sources they aren't going to spend much time developing them. I assume T Boone Pickens has some idea how to get richer off wind power or he might be less excited about it
scisrbeatspapr scisrbeatspapr 8 years
So i was looking more into this. Two years ago the energy department released a statement saying that where we are going with solar hydro and wind power we can convert all electrical energy and heat production to solar hydro and wind power within the next 10 years. So considering that 22% of the oil we have is used for electrical and heat production, the energy department states that you can switch that 22% of usage to something else like automobiles. If Bush listened to his own energy department he wouldn't be saying drill more at all. That extra 22% percent of oil could make a HUGE difference. And not to mention the benefits we could use from coal burning as well. PA got that right. There are plenty of solar and wind power farms already up and running. And look at what the hoover dam does for half of the southwest! If anyone has seen the documentary life after people, the hoover dam could even continue powering the southwest up to a year after we're gone without our supervision or help! It's absurd to think that we don't have the knowledge or man power to make these advancements happen and work successfully when most of them have already proven their weight. And the reason it won't benefit our future drilling now is because we have already reached the global peak oil. Saudi is out. We're running out. Alternative fuels will get further pushed out of our minds if we do this drill and then when we do finally hit another oil crisis, which we will, we'll be in an even worse position then now. When this happened in the 70's, and we threatened to switch to Ethenol based economy, Saudi freaked and gave us more, but now we dont have them to bail us out. And what we could drill here is not worth it on the long term scale. There's so many good reasons for alternative fuels and methods, starting with the fact that long term it will end up saving you money. and don't think that with our economy the way it is right now you're gonna be able to really save like you want to anyway. that's the point of a recession. Failure and redemption that's how the economy works. We can get through this without the help of big oil.
scisrbeatspapr scisrbeatspapr 8 years
So i was looking more into this.Two years ago the energy department released a statement saying that where we are going with solar hydro and wind power we can convert all electrical energy and heat production to solar hydro and wind power within the next 10 years. So considering that 22% of the oil we have is used for electrical and heat production, the energy department states that you can switch that 22% of usage to something else like automobiles. If Bush listened to his own energy department he wouldn't be saying drill more at all. That extra 22% percent of oil could make a HUGE difference. And not to mention the benefits we could use from coal burning as well. PA got that right.There are plenty of solar and wind power farms already up and running. And look at what the hoover dam does for half of the southwest! If anyone has seen the documentary life after people, the hoover dam could even continue powering the southwest up to a year after we're gone without our supervision or help! It's absurd to think that we don't have the knowledge or man power to make these advancements happen and work successfully when most of them have already proven their weight. And the reason it won't benefit our future drilling now is because we have already reached the global peak oil. Saudi is out. We're running out. Alternative fuels will get further pushed out of our minds if we do this drill and then when we do finally hit another oil crisis, which we will, we'll be in an even worse position then now. When this happened in the 70's, and we threatened to switch to Ethenol based economy, Saudi freaked and gave us more, but now we dont have them to bail us out. And what we could drill here is not worth it on the long term scale. There's so many good reasons for alternative fuels and methods, starting with the fact that long term it will end up saving you money. and don't think that with our economy the way it is right now you're gonna be able to really save like you want to anyway. that's the point of a recession. Failure and redemption that's how the economy works. We can get through this without the help of big oil.
Nina_79 Nina_79 8 years
Ok Stiletta, but I just don't believe it's a good idea to give corporations the kind of power they have and then when they mess up it's the state and it's tax payer that have to pay up (like what is happening with the morgage banks right now). There have to be rules and regulations that corporations need to stick by, otherwise they will just exploit their power. Bettyjane, I also thought of the film 'who killed the electric car' when I read ppl say we didn't have the knowledge. The knowledge is there.
Nina_79 Nina_79 8 years
Ok Stiletta, but I just don't believe it's a good idea to give corporations the kind of power they have and then when they mess up it's the state and it's tax payer that have to pay up (like what is happening with the morgage banks right now). There have to be rules and regulations that corporations need to stick by, otherwise they will just exploit their power. Bettyjane, I also thought of the film 'who killed the electric car' when I read ppl say we didn't have the knowledge. The knowledge is there.
Bettyjane Bettyjane 8 years
What is so strange is that offshore drilling is a short term solution to the long term problem of oil. Bush said in a press conference that our next step in to run on nuclear power! Really? That sounds smart. Why not push solar energy? Is it because no one can profit past the start up costs? Sorry, but honestly ruining a wildlife refuge for some oil that we won't even see until 10 years down the line isn't my idea of a solution. We have already degraded our environment in such an extreme manner lets not make it worse. And I am so sick of people saying we just don't have the technology to get off of oil. That is the biggest lie I have ever heard. I refer you all to the documentary "Who killed the electric car". Offshore drilling, another brilliant non-solution to a real problem.
Bettyjane Bettyjane 8 years
What is so strange is that offshore drilling is a short term solution to the long term problem of oil. Bush said in a press conference that our next step in to run on nuclear power! Really? That sounds smart. Why not push solar energy? Is it because no one can profit past the start up costs? Sorry, but honestly ruining a wildlife refuge for some oil that we won't even see until 10 years down the line isn't my idea of a solution. We have already degraded our environment in such an extreme manner lets not make it worse. And I am so sick of people saying we just don't have the technology to get off of oil. That is the biggest lie I have ever heard. I refer you all to the documentary "Who killed the electric car". Offshore drilling, another brilliant non-solution to a real problem.
stiletta stiletta 8 years
Nina, I think you misunderstood me. I was saying that it won't work itself out in this particular situation. I don't like government interference in private markets because it causes distortions, but in this instance they have to do something.
Nina_79 Nina_79 8 years
we'll ever heard of peak oil? It's come, it's gone, it's running out.
briglass briglass 8 years
Y'all just don't understand the geophysics of offshore drilling. It's amazing what we can accomplish these days with "horizontal holes".
briglass briglass 8 years
Y'all just don't understand the geophysics of offshore drilling.It's amazing what we can accomplish these days with "horizontal holes".
Nina_79 Nina_79 8 years
Well if the numbers don't add up, what else can you argue with? And how should it 'work itself out by itself'? It is the blind believe in the capitalist market that got the US in the mess it finds itself in right now.
stiletta stiletta 8 years
You can't argue with numbers and this goes beyond free market supply and demand. Normally I'd say the capitalist system will work this out if we just leave it alone, but every sector of the economy is so hooked on oil that it goes beyond simple economic theory at this point. If the government doesn't encourage alternative fuels, the stock market will continue to dive and inflation will continue to spiral. I hated writing that.
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