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Can Fox News Survive the End of the Bush Administration?

I've always wondered how Stephen Colbert and Keith Olbermann will transition on Jan. 20, 2009 — the day George W. Bush will officially retire to his Texas ranch. But there is someone else I forgot: Fox News. What will the highest-rated cable news channel do without its raison d'être?

Time recently discussed the channel's affair with the Bush Administration:

Fox News is not simply a mouthpiece for the Bush White House: it rose with Bush after 2000 and 9/11, was played on TVs in his White House and reflected the same surety and flag-lapel-pin confidence in its tone and star-spangled look. It was not just a hit; it was the network of the moment.

So, how will Fox News handle the next president? Will it eagerly channel outrage at a Democratic president? Will it embrace a President McCain?

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politica politica 8 years
I'm fairly disgusted with the overtly partisan tone on this post. I read most of the Sugar Network sites pretty regularly and can generally enjoy it without seeing a political slant, but this is pretty blatant.
mymellowman mymellowman 8 years
:rotfl:
mymellowman mymellowman 8 years
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hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
hahah Bad liberal! Very BAD!
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
hahah Bad liberal! Very BAD!
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 8 years
No! I do not want the last word. LOL! I like you Jillness you keep me on my game girl. I think you're a girl. I can't tell with all these damn avatars. One minute cabaker27 is a pair of legs the next she's a cup cake. Anyway....... As I've said under another topic FOX is by no means perfect but the product they deliver in my opinion is more intellectually comprehensive than its main competitors MSNBC and CNN. I watch those networks as well but when I do its so unstimulating to me. When I watch FOX their going at it like cats and dogs, conservative vs. liberal. This is the contrast in ideology that I want to see debated not a round table of people who all have relatively the same opinion. I've also conceded that yes FOX is projected from a conservative platform there for yes the network in and of it self is conservatively bias. However, what I've been trying to hammer home is that what makes them fair and balanced is not their platform. Not their CEO. Not their on air personalities but their desire to have intense debate with liberals on these issues. O.K. I'm done being the bad liberal; you conservatives are going to have to stick up for yourselves from now on.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 8 years
No! I do not want the last word. LOL! I like you Jillness you keep me on my game girl. I think you're a girl. I can't tell with all these damn avatars. One minute cabaker27 is a pair of legs the next she's a cup cake. Anyway.......As I've said under another topic FOX is by no means perfect but the product they deliver in my opinion is more intellectually comprehensive than its main competitors MSNBC and CNN. I watch those networks as well but when I do its so unstimulating to me. When I watch FOX their going at it like cats and dogs, conservative vs. liberal. This is the contrast in ideology that I want to see debated not a round table of people who all have relatively the same opinion.I've also conceded that yes FOX is projected from a conservative platform there for yes the network in and of it self is conservatively bias. However, what I've been trying to hammer home is that what makes them fair and balanced is not their platform. Not their CEO. Not their on air personalities but their desire to have intense debate with liberals on these issues. O.K. I'm done being the bad liberal; you conservatives are going to have to stick up for yourselves from now on.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
Jill, sorry but I gotta disagree. Fox News remains the highest rated news channel, their ratings only slipped in late 05 and begining of 06. Even if their ratings were down, they still are #1 and we don't know if the other stations gained those lost viewers or if just a new American Idol was on! :) As for OReilly, well he still is the #1 most watched nightly cable news show, he may not be watched by many people, but more than are watching CNN, MSNBC, and others at that time. AND Fox News is the #6 cable channel, out of every cable channel! ... the next ranked news channel? CNN at #26.... broadcastingcable.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA6517290
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
Jill, sorry but I gotta disagree. Fox News remains the highest rated news channel, their ratings only slipped in late 05 and begining of 06. Even if their ratings were down, they still are #1 and we don't know if the other stations gained those lost viewers or if just a new American Idol was on! :)As for OReilly, well he still is the #1 most watched nightly cable news show, he may not be watched by many people, but more than are watching CNN, MSNBC, and others at that time.AND Fox News is the #6 cable channel, out of every cable channel! ... the next ranked news channel? CNN at #26....broadcastingcable.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA6517290
Jillness Jillness 8 years
During the past week, I have seen a correspondant on Fox and Friends call the show out for being biased against Obama...twice! On one day, 2 people did it! I will give hypnoticmix the benefit of the doubt and agree that sometimes they probably do have a good mix of well informed "lefties" and "righties" on their programs, however, I have seen enough of their programs to know that many times it is intentionally biased. I think, in all fairness, you have to include Fox when you talk about "elite media". The ratings for FOX have been down considerably during the past 5 years. O'Reilly isn't even doing that well anymore. Even on a good night, there is only around 200,000 people watching him. Considering the millions of people in this country, that isn't a lot. I think that FOX certainly has their nitche, and that demographic will be looking for news geared towards them no matter who wins the election. They just probably won't be #1 for quite a while.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
During the past week, I have seen a correspondant on Fox and Friends call the show out for being biased against Obama...twice! On one day, 2 people did it! I will give hypnoticmix the benefit of the doubt and agree that sometimes they probably do have a good mix of well informed "lefties" and "righties" on their programs, however, I have seen enough of their programs to know that many times it is intentionally biased.I think, in all fairness, you have to include Fox when you talk about "elite media".The ratings for FOX have been down considerably during the past 5 years. O'Reilly isn't even doing that well anymore. Even on a good night, there is only around 200,000 people watching him. Considering the millions of people in this country, that isn't a lot. I think that FOX certainly has their nitche, and that demographic will be looking for news geared towards them no matter who wins the election. They just probably won't be #1 for quite a while.
Tinseltoe Tinseltoe 8 years
I watch most news stations and believe FOX to be what they claim to be: Fair and Balanced. Most of the FOX naysayers I've met with have never really took the time to watch it but claim it is unjust and biased because they believe the elite media and the celebs, getting their news from "the View" or "John Stewart" and others alike. I find FOX bashing to be entirely pointless. People will watch whatever they want and judging by the ratings it will still be, long after the president steps out of the office.
Tinseltoe Tinseltoe 8 years
I watch most news stations and believe FOX to be what they claim to be: Fair and Balanced. Most of the FOX naysayers I've met with have never really took the time to watch it but claim it is unjust and biased because they believe the elite media and the celebs, getting their news from "the View" or "John Stewart" and others alike.I find FOX bashing to be entirely pointless. People will watch whatever they want and judging by the ratings it will still be, long after the president steps out of the office.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 8 years
I take no issue with your statement Jillness. You saw what you saw. However, aside from the Obama supporter there are congressman, senators, governors, state legislators, authors, religious leaders, local government leaders and liberal radio hosts who I view on a daily basis on FOX.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
The times when I have watched Fox, I don't feel that they have good "liberal" guests at all! During one of the democratic primaries, one of their commentators was listed as "Obama Supporter". Not an elected representative or offical. Not a campaign spokesperson or someone who had in any way been legitamized. Just "Supporter". That same title could be slapped on to randoms you pull of the street! I feel that one of their big strategies is to put someone on tv who is a very poor representation of the other side of the argument. They give many wack jobs a stage to perform on.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
The times when I have watched Fox, I don't feel that they have good "liberal" guests at all! During one of the democratic primaries, one of their commentators was listed as "Obama Supporter". Not an elected representative or offical. Not a campaign spokesperson or someone who had in any way been legitamized. Just "Supporter". That same title could be slapped on to randoms you pull of the street!I feel that one of their big strategies is to put someone on tv who is a very poor representation of the other side of the argument. They give many wack jobs a stage to perform on.
mymellowman mymellowman 8 years
Thanks Hypno! It was one of those sentences I had to read a few times, but when it clicked I was pretty amazed.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 8 years
Yes that is precisely my point.
mymellowman mymellowman 8 years
Ahhhh, I clicked on Shopstyle instead of post and lost what I typed. I think I might be understanding what you are saying: Fox does lean towards the right with it's employees and hosts, but as they invite on many people from the left (and far left) to present and discuss their view points that they thus provide a well rounded forum and views and as such are not as biased as others are making Fox out to be. If that is it, which I think it is, I believe that is a pretty interesting view to bring to the table. Very well thought and I like it indeed. (And this coming from someone who watches Fox and thinks they are biased, but then again I believe all news outlets are biased to some angle and degree.) :)
mymellowman mymellowman 8 years
Ahhhh, I clicked on Shopstyle instead of post and lost what I typed.I think I might be understanding what you are saying: Fox does lean towards the right with it's employees and hosts, but as they invite on many people from the left (and far left) to present and discuss their view points that they thus provide a well rounded forum and views and as such are not as biased as others are making Fox out to be.If that is it, which I think it is, I believe that is a pretty interesting view to bring to the table.Very well thought and I like it indeed. (And this coming from someone who watches Fox and thinks they are biased, but then again I believe all news outlets are biased to some angle and degree.) :)
mymellowman mymellowman 8 years
"How much more liberal a view point can you get. Do you want protesters marching across the set? By omitting this fact which would then contradict your charge that they are not fair and balanced you your selves have become what you charge, bias." - You lost me completely.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 8 years
Wow, talk about bias. I have a feeling this is the word of the day. LOL. I here all of you when you say FOX leans to the right. Fox is projecting from a conservative platform. I agree with you 100% on that point. However, what makes your statements bias is that you choose to omit the fact that I illustrated above in my first comment. "The fact of the matter is that although the majority of fox's hosts are conservative they always have on an opposing liberal view on to debate the issue. Such as Rev. Sharpton, Congressman Kucinich, Democratic National Committee members, noted liberal authors to challenge their views". How much more liberal a view point can you get. Do you want protesters marching across the set? By omitting this fact which would then contradict your charge that they are not fair and balanced you your selves have become what you charge, bias.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 8 years
Wow, talk about bias. I have a feeling this is the word of the day. LOL. I here all of you when you say FOX leans to the right. Fox is projecting from a conservative platform. I agree with you 100% on that point. However, what makes your statements bias is that you choose to omit the fact that I illustrated above in my first comment. "The fact of the matter is that although the majority of fox's hosts are conservative they always have on an opposing liberal view on to debate the issue. Such as Rev. Sharpton, Congressman Kucinich, Democratic National Committee members, noted liberal authors to challenge their views". How much more liberal a view point can you get. Do you want protesters marching across the set? By omitting this fact which would then contradict your charge that they are not fair and balanced you your selves have become what you charge, bias.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
"As a liberal I think the leftist disdain for FOX news is really ridiculous." Actually, Rupert Murdoch has said many times that he felt the need to balance left-wing media bias and therefore intentionally created a network that would give a Right wing biased slant to the news. I don't think bias in the news should be encouraged at all. I don't like it when the other networks do it either, but IMO Fox is the most heavy handed. I lost all respect when Shepard Smith reported that Saddam had been killed 6 different times during the first 3 months of the war. Every day it was "Saddam is dead!" or "WMDs Found!"...just rumors. I think Fox is a big reason why so many Americans to this day are confused about what was REALLY found in Iraq, and whether it is connected to Al Queda or not.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
"As a liberal I think the leftist disdain for FOX news is really ridiculous."Actually, Rupert Murdoch has said many times that he felt the need to balance left-wing media bias and therefore intentionally created a network that would give a Right wing biased slant to the news. I don't think bias in the news should be encouraged at all. I don't like it when the other networks do it either, but IMO Fox is the most heavy handed. I lost all respect when Shepard Smith reported that Saddam had been killed 6 different times during the first 3 months of the war. Every day it was "Saddam is dead!" or "WMDs Found!"...just rumors. I think Fox is a big reason why so many Americans to this day are confused about what was REALLY found in Iraq, and whether it is connected to Al Queda or not.
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