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Catholic Hospitals Say They Must Close If Abortion Bill Passes

Hoping to end the abortion debate once and for all, many pro-choice lawmakers support the Freedom of Choice Act, a law which would codify Roe v. Wade and set a national standard for abortion rights. Barack Obama's statements that he wants to sign the act into law, has put pro-life advocates on the defensive. Specifically, leaders in the Catholic Church are warning that the law would force Catholic hospitals to close since they do not provide abortions. This would be a major problem, since about one-third of all US hospitals are Catholic.

In its current form, FOCA would cancel out existing laws that limit abortion (up to the point of fetal viability), including parental notification rules. Catholic hospitals fear that conscience laws, which allow federally funded hospitals to deny abortions based on religious grounds, would also be tossed.

While it's still uncertain whether FOCA will overturn conscience protections, and whether it will even be passed for that matter, do you think there should be an exception made for Catholic hospitals?

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alichrsha alichrsha 7 years
http://www.nebcathcon.org/educational_pl_info1.htm I was searching online for Psalms 106 : 37 -42 and found this Catholic website about fetal development..and biblical basis for their beliefs on the lower half of the page. That particular scripture has to do with child sacrifice which I believe abortion is the modern day version of that.
alichrsha alichrsha 7 years
Thr F.O.C.A. bill is unconstitutional. If a doctor is morally opposed to abortion,because it is the killing of an innocent human.. They shouldn't be forced to do so. That is communism,fascism..anything but democracy! Catholic hospitals will close because some people fear God more than man, and realize they will have to face their creator someday. The F.O.C.A. bill will also ensure that All taxpayers will pay for abortions ,even if they don't believe in it. Can one force an atheist to go to church? President Obama will also have to face the Lord of hosts and answer for his immoral and unethical decisions,when one opens up the laws of the land to be able to legally shed innocent blood.May God have have mercy on us.
alichrsha alichrsha 7 years
Thr F.O.C.A. bill is unconstitutional. If a doctor is morally opposed to abortion,because it is the killing of an innocent human.. They shouldn't be forced to do so. That is communism,fascism..anything but democracy! Catholic hospitals will close because some people fear God more than man, and realize they will have to face their creator someday. The F.O.C.A. bill will also ensure that All taxpayers will pay for abortions ,even if they don't believe in it. Can one force an atheist to go to church?President Obama will also have to face the Lord of hosts and answer for his immoral and unethical decisions,when one opens up the laws of the land to be able to legally shed innocent blood.May God have have mercy on us.
KJerabek KJerabek 7 years
There is nothing pro choice about this freedom of choice act. Disgusting.
stephley stephley 7 years
Yes, in real life, average Catholics and Jews get along very well. There are times though, that their leading members behave like political rivals.
janneth janneth 7 years
I think the average Catholic and Jew get along very very well. In real life.
Symphonee Symphonee 7 years
I live in Maryland and we have enough Catholic Hospitals around. If you want an abortion you know you better not step foot in Mercy. If you want your tubes tied don't go to St.Agnes. I have a problem with these hospitals not receiving funding because of their religious choice. I believe that it should be a state not Federal matter about the issue of legalized abortion. I do not believe tht this should be regulated by Federal law. The only issue I have with MD's version of this law is that it clearly does not define a religious employer. As far as the Catholic church believeing that it would have to close all of its hospitals, I say that this is a bit overexagerrated. Every single hospital would not have close and with a look towards streamlining these hospitals I believe that many could stay open.
Symphonee Symphonee 7 years
I live in Maryland and we have enough Catholic Hospitals around. If you want an abortion you know you better not step foot in Mercy. If you want your tubes tied don't go to St.Agnes. I have a problem with these hospitals not receiving funding because of their religious choice. I believe that it should be a state not Federal matter about the issue of legalized abortion. I do not believe tht this should be regulated by Federal law. The only issue I have with MD's version of this law is that it clearly does not define a religious employer. As far as the Catholic church believeing that it would have to close all of its hospitals, I say that this is a bit overexagerrated. Every single hospital would not have close and with a look towards streamlining these hospitals I believe that many could stay open.
kranky kranky 7 years
Steph-I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one. I have already written that the Church is not wholeheartedly accepting the bishops and their anti-Semitic ways.
kranky kranky 7 years
Steph- I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one. I have already written that the Church is not wholeheartedly accepting the bishops and their anti-Semitic ways.
stephley stephley 7 years
Anti-semitic remarks by priests that go unpunished, beatification of anti-semitic Church leaders, reinstating this bishop... I won't go beyond that because this isn't a thread about the Catholic Church and anti-semitism. You can google articles on the subject if you're actually interested - there are many valid discussions. The Church is forever doing a one step up, two back dance on Judaism.
kranky kranky 7 years
"...within the Church hierarchy there still are serious issues between words and actions in terms of anti-Semitism."Could you provide examples?
kranky kranky 7 years
"...within the Church hierarchy there still are serious issues between words and actions in terms of anti-Semitism." Could you provide examples?
stephley stephley 7 years
I didn't say it did; I did say that within the Church hierarchy, there still are serious issues between words and actions in terms of anti-Semitism.
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 7 years
Luv, they do try to stop that from happening, and in that vein than why dont prochoice people stop 3rd trimester abortions from happening? its a small percentage right? just like pedophile priests are. at least i hope so on both points.
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 7 years
Luv, they do try to stop that from happening, and in that vein than why dont prochoice people stop 3rd trimester abortions from happening? its a small percentage right? just like pedophile priests are. at least i hope so on both points.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 7 years
In this case if I were President I would draw the exception because in most cases there would be a clinic or other hospital near by the that would provid that service. In the few cases that there is not private & government clinics together would move to fill that void.
kranky kranky 7 years
Steph- Do you have proof that the Catholic Church supports the position that the Holocaust didn't happen (not that it is the point of this thread, but still...)? I have never heard anything to the contrary other than speculation and conspiracy theories. The Church has been very vocal about the issue since WWII. European Catholics - under the direction of the Pope - harbored Jews from the Nazis during WWII. There were a number of villages in Italy that were completely decimated by the Nazis because of this.
kranky kranky 7 years
Steph-Do you have proof that the Catholic Church supports the position that the Holocaust didn't happen (not that it is the point of this thread, but still...)? I have never heard anything to the contrary other than speculation and conspiracy theories. The Church has been very vocal about the issue since WWII. European Catholics - under the direction of the Pope - harbored Jews from the Nazis during WWII. There were a number of villages in Italy that were completely decimated by the Nazis because of this.
stephley stephley 7 years
Personally, I wouldn't use the word 'decidedly' until actions and words sync up better.
stephley stephley 7 years
Personally, I wouldn't use the word 'decidedly' until actions and words sync up better.
LuvLeoDiCaprio LuvLeoDiCaprio 7 years
Uhh I don't even know how to comment, I say government, religions out of my Va****. I am pro choice all the way. The Catholic church needs to put this amount of effort in stoping pedophillic priests that damage young boys for the rest of their lives. Now that is disgusting and appaling.
clarabelle98 clarabelle98 7 years
Okay, I'm worried now.First the school that expelled children because they were gay. Now the government wants to tell a religious institution that they have to break one of the most heinous 10 commandments (Thou shalt not kill) because it's "law"? Something is rotten in Denmark...
clarabelle98 clarabelle98 7 years
Okay, I'm worried now. First the school that expelled children because they were gay. Now the government wants to tell a religious institution that they have to break one of the most heinous 10 commandments (Thou shalt not kill) because it's "law"? Something is rotten in Denmark...
kranky kranky 7 years
Steph-Right - the Church is decidely NOT supporting anti-Semetic ideology, though people continue to say that it is.
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