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Changes: What's Next For Hip-Hop Now That Obama's Prez

Changes: What's Next For Hip-Hop Now That Obama's Prez

Tupac Shakur's America wasn't ready to see a black president, but that didn't stop countless rap artists from fantasizing about a black American in the White House. Now that Obama has realized a much discussed goal of hip-hop, the question must be asked: How will Obama's presidency change hip-hop?

A recent piece in Slate lets flow some ideas on how the empowerment of one black man will change the genre. Something to keep in mind, it reads: Not only is Obama black, but he's also a well-informed fan of hip-hop.

In some ways, intelligent hip-hop's evolution could mirror that of the NAACP. The Slate piece ponders whether it will be hard for rappers to vent about racial injustices, now that a black man is arguably the most powerful man in the world. Facing the same dilemma since Obama's rise, the NAACP has tried to point out that one person's success does not change a community's reality.

While artists like Nas, Common, and will.i.am celebrated Obama's victory with new music, rap duo Dead Prez has weighed in on hip-hop's tough mission in a new song:

I don't want to discourage my folk, I believe in hope.
Either way it's still white power, it's the same system, it just changed form.

Here's hoping artists keep challenging society no matter the color of the person in charge.

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UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
Yeah, I already read that. I didn't think you were a loose cannon, but I will happily change my opinion if you like.
stephley stephley 7 years
"It would not occur to me to automatically go to 'you're a loose cannon overstepping your authority, let me determine whether your comment is valid or not.'"
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
Having worked with people who "make recommendations" that are not necessarily part of their job, I reasoned that that was what you had done as well. Maybe when there was confusion you should've mentioned that it was your job to interview and recommend who to hire, instead of assuming that I was trying to make excuses for bad behavior.
stephley stephley 7 years
The full story was I made recommendations that were consistently rebuffed. You assumed that I was one of a 'group of girls' who had no valid authority to be recommending anything. Personally, when someone tells me that they did something on the job, I assume that because it is THEIR job they had some valid reason and authority for acting. It would not occur to me to automatically go to 'you're a loose cannon overstepping your authority, let me determine whether your comment is valid or not.'
stephley stephley 7 years
The full story was I made recommendations that were consistently rebuffed. You assumed that I was one of a 'group of girls' who had no valid authority to be recommending anything. Personally, when someone tells me that they did something on the job, I assume that because it is THEIR job they had some valid reason and authority for acting.It would not occur to me to automatically go to 'you're a loose cannon overstepping your authority, let me determine whether your comment is valid or not.'
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
So where exactely do you give the full story? You can say it, it's ok. I already know the answer. YOU DIDN'T!! Now that I have the full story, I've said I agree with you. All I ask is that next time, instead of leaving out IMPORTANT facts, include them so that there isn't any questions. Do you have a problem with that?
stephley stephley 7 years
To be thorough:Me: "Where did I ever say I was "with a group of girls who pushed for minority hires"?Dave: "Ummmm, the first quote?"The First Quote: "I've worked in offices where a few of us pressed hard for minority hires but got nowhere, and all my life I've worked in white or predominantly white offices - and most of my adult life was spent in Washington DC."
stephley stephley 7 years
To be thorough: Me: "Where did I ever say I was "with a group of girls who pushed for minority hires"? Dave: "Ummmm, the first quote?" The First Quote: "I've worked in offices where a few of us pressed hard for minority hires but got nowhere, and all my life I've worked in white or predominantly white offices - and most of my adult life was spent in Washington DC."
stephley stephley 7 years
I made a comment that you decided to try and pull apart to support your worldview, which this statement suggests is appallingly arrogant:"so I had to assume that there might have been some reason that management came up with for their hiring practices, and maybe you didn't know." And I know way too much about your fact-checking history to put any credence in your need to be thorough.
stephley stephley 7 years
I made a comment that you decided to try and pull apart to support your worldview, which this statement suggests is appallingly arrogant: "so I had to assume that there might have been some reason that management came up with for their hiring practices, and maybe you didn't know." And I know way too much about your fact-checking history to put any credence in your need to be thorough.
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
Ummmm, the first quote? You never said, until the third quote, that you were in charge of the interviewing, so I had to assume that there might have been some reason that management came up with for their hiring practices, and maybe you didn't know. Now, wanting to be thorough, I decided to ask questions and try to get the full story. If you'd bothered to be forthcoming, this conversation would've been over about 30 comments ago. The moral of the story is, try to communicate the full story.
stephley stephley 7 years
Where did I ever say I was "with a group of girls who pushed for minority hires"? I would never have characterized myself or people I worked with as a 'group of girls'. The third graph, where I specifically say 'women' was, I believe, in response to something that you said. But I did the interviews, I took the results of the application process to management. I pressed for minority hires. There's no change in the story. I think you were looking for a break in the process that would indicate that management was able to determine for itself that the minority candidates were not the best qualified. You assume that there is a valid reason for not hiring the minority candidate time after time.
stephley stephley 7 years
Where did I ever say I was "with a group of girls who pushed for minority hires"? I would never have characterized myself or people I worked with as a 'group of girls'. The third graph, where I specifically say 'women' was, I believe, in response to something that you said. But I did the interviews, I took the results of the application process to management. I pressed for minority hires. There's no change in the story. I think you were looking for a break in the process that would indicate that management was able to determine for itself that the minority candidates were not the best qualified. You assume that there is a valid reason for not hiring the minority candidate time after time.
stephley stephley 7 years
Bosses and recommendations.
stephley stephley 7 years
Bosses and recommendations.
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
"I've worked in offices where a few of us pressed hard for minority hires but got nowhere, and all my life I've worked in white or predominantly white offices - and most of my adult life was spent in Washington DC." "We would bring in applications from the best minority candidates along with the best white candidates and always the white candidate was hired. " "And if you hire women and put them in position to recommend future hires, you're shooting yourself in the foot if you have a problem with them 'pressing' you to follow the recommendations you hired them to give you" "I did the interviewing Dave. I made the recommendations Dave. I produced shows with the writers that were hired Dave. At most, managers were introduced to candidates before or after I interviewed them - there were no second interviews. " I just want to point out how your story has developed and changed. When we started this conversation, you were with a group of girls who pushed for minority hires. When I questioned you on that the story changed, until in the end, you all but hired the individual. Can you understand why I was confused?
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
"I've worked in offices where a few of us pressed hard for minority hires but got nowhere, and all my life I've worked in white or predominantly white offices - and most of my adult life was spent in Washington DC.""We would bring in applications from the best minority candidates along with the best white candidates and always the white candidate was hired. ""And if you hire women and put them in position to recommend future hires, you're shooting yourself in the foot if you have a problem with them 'pressing' you to follow the recommendations you hired them to give you""I did the interviewing Dave. I made the recommendations Dave. I produced shows with the writers that were hired Dave. At most, managers were introduced to candidates before or after I interviewed them - there were no second interviews. "I just want to point out how your story has developed and changed. When we started this conversation, you were with a group of girls who pushed for minority hires. When I questioned you on that the story changed, until in the end, you all but hired the individual. Can you understand why I was confused?
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
And all of this is important to the story. Thanks for filling me in. Was that so difficult?I agree with you that it was idiotic for your boss to ask you to make a recommendation, and then not act on that recommendation.
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
And all of this is important to the story. Thanks for filling me in. Was that so difficult? I agree with you that it was idiotic for your boss to ask you to make a recommendation, and then not act on that recommendation.
stephley stephley 7 years
I did the interviewing Dave. I made the recommendations Dave. I produced shows with the writers that were hired Dave. At most, managers were introduced to candidates before or after I interviewed them - there were no second interviews.
stephley stephley 7 years
I did the interviewing Dave. I made the recommendations Dave. I produced shows with the writers that were hired Dave. At most, managers were introduced to candidates before or after I interviewed them - there were no second interviews.
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
Just because you are capable of determining the whole story doesn't mean you are capable of relaying the whole story, given that I had to pry bits and pieces of the story out of you. So, I'll ask again. Did everyone you recomended to be hired get interviews? Di you have to opportunity to sit in on those interviews?
stephley stephley 7 years
You seem to be overlooking the fact that I was a professional producer/editor, fully capable of determining the 'whole story' of the situation. That suggests you think there's a legitimate reason for a DC newsroom to not have minority hires year after year.
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
I'm just trying to get the whole story. I didn't realize there was a problem with that.
stephley stephley 7 years
Are you seriously looking for a reason that not hiring minorities was justified?
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