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Check This: Barack Has No Love For Gavin

An interaction, or lack of interaction, that took place four years ago between Barack Obama and San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, still bothers the San Francisco politician. While Newsom was in the center of national outrage over his authorization of same-sex marriage in San Francisco, Obama allegedly declined to have his picture taken with the pro gay-rights mayor.

Former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown told the SF Chronicle:

I gave a fundraiser, at his (Obama's) request at the Waterfront restaurant. And he said to me, he would really appreciate it if he didn't get his photo taken with my mayor.

Willie Brown continued to say that he doesn't blame Barack, who was in a Senate race in a somewhat conservative Illinois. Wilie just wishes Barack's camp would fess up to the snub. As for Gavin, who continues to stump for Hillary Clinton, aids say he's still cool on Barack.

Was Barack simply being cautious and practical — predicting attack ads linking him to controversial Gavin? Or did Barack let close-minded people dictate the conversation, while gay citizens were, and are, being denied rights?

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trésjolie1 trésjolie1 8 years
And it hurts her campaign too. If I could say just one thing to Hillary Clinton it would be that this is no way to win. I'm being honest here. Every time something like this happens everybody bites the hook. At some point I feel like throwing my hands up in the air and just give up on this election, because it is not fair play. Imagine having a President who's only mistake was to not take a picture with a guy. Imagine that. Her attitude has always been; "two can play this game", and I understand it being some sort of defense tactic dealing with the Republican Party in a dirty general election. But this is not the case. She is shooting down a fellow democrat, using all the tricks in the book, and trading in favor left and right in the process. And she is the only one playing. Well, she and her husband, and some gay mayor from SF. Barrack has not done this, he has taken the high road, even when it has discouraged people from voting for him. Or at all for that matter. What if the only bad thing Mrs. Clinton ever did was to not pose on a picture? Then she would have gotten my vote.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
"So now Obama has to spend his air time fighting back ridiculous rumors, instead of talking about his policies - again. Pretty convenient isn't it." Well said. I have always liked Hillary, but preferred Obama, but recently the tactics used by her campaign has made me not trust her. First the Bill comments, then she misrepresented during the debates, then mailer (http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/youve_got_mailers.html). That just doesn't sit well with me. I understand if you disagree with your opponent and want to point out those differences. However, if you have to resort to lying about their positions and making up drama and fabricating quotes, that doesn't give me confidence in what you have to offer. I can understand it more in the general election, where you are trying to fight for your party (not that I condone it). Those tactics just have no place in the selection of a nominee because it hurts a person who could eventually be the nominee for your party. We are trying to find the person who best represents the voters, and it hinders the voters when you misrepresentation their position. It is just disrespectful to voters because essentially, that is who you are lying to.
trésjolie1 trésjolie1 8 years
Honestly, have you ever thought about the fact that he doesn't like the guy? It sounds like spin (again) to me. Is it better to take pictures with everybody with a permasmile? Nowadays any action or lack thereof seems to be magnified and twisted. So now Obama has to spend his air time fighting back ridiculous rumors, instead of talking about his policies - again. Pretty convenient isn't it. Nice timing. Are we all sheep, or what?
raieven raieven 8 years
Gavin Newsom is amazing, hooray for foreward thinking Americans (ie San Franciscans). Pffffffffffffffffffft to the haters. For those of you who say he's a scumbag, please, this is Bill Clinton all over again-what he does in the bedroom is his business, I don't care if it was his campaign manager/friend the fact is a lot of people here are pleased with what he has done for SF. period. seriously.
wackdoodle wackdoodle 8 years
Look many people snub Gavin. I myself have snubbed Gav on numerous occassions and refused a MUNI photo op cause I didn't want his hair gunk and possible cooties getting on me. We had a brief exchange about that and I told him I he's like the kid in elementary school that everyone says say cooties. Only those kids grew out of having cooties and he seems to cultivate them. He laughed, I didn't. I told him Chris Daly is the kid who had to wear a helmet in school because of the fits and tantrums - someone should probably buy Chris an adult special helmet. Now that was funny and we both laughed but Peskin didn't cause he's got cooties and wears a helmet.
hayworthgilda hayworthgilda 8 years
IL's not conservative -- it's a pretty dependably blue state. This story sounds like a non-story that's being ginned up into a controversy. I'd also argue that Gavin Newsom is better known as a skeez with poor taste in women than a same-sex marriage advocate.
JovianSkies JovianSkies 8 years
I think we all would know by now that Obama never "fesses up" to anything.
Matdredalia Matdredalia 8 years
I actually have a lot of respect for both men. However, I understand that Barack knew what needed to be done for the greater good. He has a vision for America, and he wanted to make our country a better place to live. Unfortunately, running for any political office requires keeping your mouth shut when you'd rather not, sacrificing your personal beliefs at times, and walking a very fine line. It would be nice if he hadn't had to do this and could have stood his ground, but I don't hold it against him.
sarah_bellum sarah_bellum 8 years
Gavin Newsom's positions on all issues will keep him from higher office, because his brand of politics will just not play outside of San Francisco. Thank God.
mymellowman mymellowman 8 years
Well, Willie Brown was mayor for a long time, but there is much to say about him......
janneth janneth 8 years
Newsom has stated that he knows his position on gay marriage will keep him from higher office. But he did what he felt is the right thing. I think he is very popular with his constituents. Didn't he just get re-elected in a landslide?
Cadet Cadet 8 years
Shit knows I love me some Clinton, but the irony is it couldn't possibly be about Gay Rights because Hillary is "for protecting the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman." That really isn't a direct quote, more paraphrased. But neither democratic candidate is for same sex marriage, they're both in favor of civil unions. Which isn't equality. So don't believe what you see in pictures. Looking better or worse doesn't make any candidate better or worse for America, their stances on the issues does.
sarah_bellum sarah_bellum 8 years
My opinion of Obama just went up a bit. I'd run like hell in the other direction if I ever saw that douchebag/scumbag coming towards me, and it has nothing to do with his stance on gay rights. I think that's just a convenient way to gain press and a (lame) attempt to create a controversy.
harmreduction harmreduction 8 years
The real story is that Gavin is talkin' that BS 'cause he is an avid Hillary supporter. Period! He is attempting to minimize the current support many LBGT people ion San Francisco and beyond have for Obama.
nyaradzom2001 nyaradzom2001 8 years
OMG I'm sure this will affect Obama's vote, come on!!! Gays everywhere are burnign their Obama shirts, pfft. If you are going to mud sling you better have the mud not a water gun that can barely squirt!!
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 8 years
I believe i started the douchebag comments with the hillary post. my bad. god i am such a douchebag.
Arthur Arthur 8 years
beautifully stated pjtach.
cine_lover cine_lover 8 years
pjtach I get what you are saying, and it really does make sense. I have a lot of reasons why I think he is a scumbag but I have to go home from work now and can't get into it. I really don't call people names, because I agree with your point. But I dislike this man.
pjtach pjtach 8 years
cheers.
piper23 piper23 8 years
Makes a lot of sense, really, I totally see where you're coming from. Thanks for the insight!
pjtach pjtach 8 years
and i need to clarify, i'm not talking about you specifically piper or cine...i am speaking generally. the state of politics right now has me in a tizzy and i just can't wait to know who is running...
pjtach pjtach 8 years
as far as i'm concerned you can call anyone you want names, but it doesn't do your point justice...that's all my point is. i'd rather know why you don't like him, or something factual and tangible. in maine, where i live recently we voted on gay right. i had friends that were planning a large rally in favor of gay rights and they were passing out sheets of paper with rules for signage at the rally. no name calling or mudslinging was one of the rules...and it makes sense. in order to make a political point...which is soooooo necessary in our world right now, to be political and care...people need to be clear and concise. perhaps you have a point that could change my view, but i'll never know because you are speaking in such a way that i don't want to hear more... does this make sense? or is it overkill of an irrelevant point?
piper23 piper23 8 years
Ditto, Jillness, I'm enjoying reading your opinions as well!
Princesskitty22 Princesskitty22 8 years
Oh, dear, who took a picture with whom? Are we down to that? Please, I'm sure Obama had a good reason for not having his picture taken with the guy and he has the right to NOT have his picture taken with whoever he wants. Op, and there's Hillary with a picture, so she must be evil. Come on. So, now we're attacking Obama for not getting his picture taken with the same guy we're attacking Hillary for having her picture taken with? This is getting ridiculous.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
Piper, you have made a lot of posts that are very well thought out. One moment of fiestiness doesn't change my respect for you!
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