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Check This: Are Women-Only Buses Discriminatory?

Twenty-two million people ride Mexico City's pubic transportation system each day, and among this enormous number lurk men ready to cop an anonymous feel on a crowded bus. Mexico City has decided to confront the sexual harassment problem by chartering women-only buses, marked with a pink placard and all!

Men get left in the dust of the "ladies' night on wheels" that travels the main routes of the city. According to the New York Times, some Mexican men feel that the policy is discriminatory and resent being left to wait for the next coed bus. Others accept their gender's punishment for inappropriate behavior.

Do you think there is such a thing as positive discrimination? Or is female preferential treatment an example of segregation?

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gabitzgabitz gabitzgabitz 7 years
yeah well, men over here in MX (well, from a certain generation, though, not too much in younger people) tend to be *forward* (to put it in a nice way) so i don't think this is discrimination at all, it's just for protection
pureintuiti0n pureintuiti0n 7 years
Some may call this discrimination and say that there should be men-only buses as well. But what purpose would that serve? Don't create extra drama and waste resources just for the principle of equality.
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 7 years
I have to say that there is always a group of 16 or more little mexican men that shop in my publix, they all come in two big vans. I dont know where they work, but they are always filthy, and speak almost no english. My husband and i have started naming them because we see them all the time (there is "Flock of seagulls" who has that hairstyle i kid you not, and "Blues Clues" cause he has a striped shirt) anyway if i am alone, they are merciless with the harrassing, I am talking cat calls, grabbing, whispering, staring at my Ta-tas, following me and saying "hey, hey, you, girlie" I have complained to the management but really they cant do anything about it. IF i could have an "all girls publix" i would love it.
JessNess JessNess 7 years
I would understand if they had Men's only buses if men were getting sexually harassed and attacked. I would not have a problem with it at all
trésjolie1 trésjolie1 7 years
First of all, I don't think most Americans know how it is taking the bus in Mexico City. Not the men and not the women. Rape and molestation is not a common problem on the buses here, so it's a different situation. As long as men get from A to B as easily as the women on the all female buses, with an equal number of fares every hour, I think it is more than fair.
alllacedup alllacedup 7 years
I know my dad would sleep better at night if that was the case with buses here. I don't think it's discriminatory because it's a woman's choice to get on the bus. No one is forced to ride the gender-specific bus. It's a good way to keep women safe.
GigglyGirl GigglyGirl 7 years
In theory this doesn't bother me at all. I just wonder if someone had tried to set up "Men's only" buses, if there would have been a huge discrimination outcry. I'm a woman, and I'm all for having club/buses/gyms whatever be exclusively for woman, but I still think it has to work both ways.
trésjolie1 trésjolie1 7 years
What a great idea!
trésjolie1 trésjolie1 7 years
What a great idea!
MSucre MSucre 7 years
I don't think that it is discrimination. It is a practical solution to a real problem. The point is not to give women advantages but to simply protect them from harrassment. If, the only way to proect them is by giving them their own bus than the preferential treatment is incident to the decision not the purpose of it.
janneth janneth 7 years
Probably a lot of husbands and boyfriends and brothers and sons would want this for the women in their lives...and I don't mean this in a chauvinistic way.
legalbeagle legalbeagle 7 years
it is discrimination but if there is a substantial governmental interest for the discrimination and the discrimination goes no further than to promote that specific interest than the discrimination is ok... clearly preventing rape and violence toward women is a substantial governmental interest and its not like the mexican government is going beyond what it feels is necessary to prevent that violence
ames3560 ames3560 7 years
I don't think this is discriminatory, its protecting women!
kyleracine kyleracine 7 years
I live in Chile and I WISH they would do the same thing here. I can see how coming from our PC world of the U.S. it might seem discriminatory...but like JessNess said, until you have been victim or harassment, inappropriate touching, stalking etc. you can not even come close to understanding how violated one feels when those things happen. Anything to prevent those issues is good.
JessNess JessNess 7 years
I think guys would find this discriminatory but until you have been sexually harassed or feel humiliated or embarrassed by the stares and comments that guys make you will never understand why women would want this.
i-am-awesomeness i-am-awesomeness 7 years
In no way is this wrong. This reminds me of a segment I saw on CNN during the summer about a man in the Middle East who created a company that has women-only taxi drivers. This filled a need because in such Muslim countries do not allow women to ride in taxis with men. This is great to keep women safe, and ensures that they will have freedom and not have to depend on their brothers and husbands to take them everywhere. But there will always be dumb@sses who choose to challenge this, like a guy in NYC who says that ladies' night at bars is discriminatory. Don't even bother to encourage these idiots by writing about this so much... it's the perfect thing to do to keep women safe.
Fab84 Fab84 7 years
I think this is great.
Fab84 Fab84 7 years
I think this is great.
janneth janneth 7 years
It makes sense. Too bad, gropers--no men only bus. This is a very common problem that must be addressed.
ilanac13 ilanac13 7 years
i think that if it's for their well-being and safety - then it's not discriminatory. there have been MANY MANY times that i've been on the subway and felt incredibly inappropriate touching that i wouldn't mind sometimes having a woman only car.
squid354 squid354 7 years
Perhaps it is bias because I am a young gentleman, but this is absolutely discriminatory. I do acknowledge that there is a problem, but let's even it out a bit and have a dudes-only bus.Problem solved by complete segregation. That way those guys who are disrespectful still get to be bummed out by riding with their fellow piggish, groping brethren, while those who are innocent don't get any commute-time disadvantage.
squid354 squid354 7 years
Perhaps it is bias because I am a young gentleman, but this is absolutely discriminatory. I do acknowledge that there is a problem, but let's even it out a bit and have a dudes-only bus. Problem solved by complete segregation. That way those guys who are disrespectful still get to be bummed out by riding with their fellow piggish, groping brethren, while those who are innocent don't get any commute-time disadvantage.
Jude-C Jude-C 7 years
If this is what it takes to keep women a little safer, then I'd say there are bigger problems to discuss than whether or not banning men from those buses is discriminatory.
JessNess JessNess 7 years
If it is being done to protect women then it is not discriminatory at all. If it teaches men that there will be daily consequences for being pigs then Im all for it
kaenai kaenai 7 years
This is similar to what they're doing on some train cars in Japan. It's not discriminatory if they're performing a necessary service. I'm sure some of the guys don't like it, but perhaps they should talk to their perverted buddies about how to treat the ladies, and they wouldn't have to worry about being left at the bus stop.
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