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Connecticut Court Grants Gay Marriage Rights

Same-sex couples now have a right to marry in Connecticut. The state's Supreme Court ruled today that under the equal protection clause of Connecticut's constitution, civil unions discriminate against same-sex couples. Thus, gay couples must have the same rights as straight couples.

In a close 4-3 decision, the majority held:

Interpreting our state constitutional provisions in accordance with firmly established equal protection principles leads inevitably to the conclusion that gay persons are entitled to marry the otherwise qualified same-sex partner of their choice. To decide otherwise would require us to apply one set of constitutional principles to gay persons and another to all others.

Essentially arguing that the constitution must stay relevant to the times, the court said Connecticut's "understanding of marriage must yield to a more contemporary appreciation of the rights entitled to constitutional protection."

California's Supreme Court came to a similar conclusion this year, but voters will have a chance to amend the constitution to make same-sex marriage explicitly unconstitutional. To find out how religious people from out of state are working to pass the ban,

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Elders of the Mormon church went on church broadcasted-TV Wednesday to share a week-by-week plan to pass the California ban on same-sex marriage, including increased efforts to call Californians, and register like-minded voters. The message aired in California, Utah, Hawaii, and Idaho. The outcome of the California initiative may reveal whether the people share these state courts' tendencies toward marriage equality.

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Jude-C Jude-C 8 years
Thanks :)
True-Song True-Song 8 years
That book was called "The Commitment" and it is so, so, so good.
Jude-C Jude-C 8 years
Ohhh. Yeah, I can see why that might have happened ;) What's the book called, True?
True-Song True-Song 8 years
haha, no surprise it got deleted. I was just reading a Dan Savage book (love him!) and he pointed out that the religious right homophobes used to use the argument that being gay wasn't natural by pointing out animals weren't gay. And then science caught up to that argument so they changed it to gay people are acting like animals!
Jude-C Jude-C 8 years
Uhhh...what happened to the post I just responded to? :?
Jude-C Jude-C 8 years
MrJoshua:
"there are no "gay" animals. There is a certain kind of frog, that if there is not enough males or females; they can change their sex.(one time only)and the common earth worms, who have both male and female organs. To Jude C and the law clerk. Jude you seem to be the head "cheerleader" here. You are the most ignorant.
Don't call me ignorant if you aren't aware that homosexual behavior has been documented close to 1500 species of animals and well-documented in over 500. In fact, it has been contended that "No species has been found in which homosexual behaviour has not been shown to exist," save for the asexual and hermaphroditic animals for which this is not a question. An estimated one-quarter of all black swans pairings are homosexual. Studies have shown that 10 to 15 percent of female western gulls in some populations in the wild are lesbian. Penguins. Dolphins. Bison. Apes. Elephants. Giraffes. Lions. Sheep. Hyenas. All documented and verified. So, once again, don't call me ignorant when you're the one who was either unaware of this or is too homophobic to accept that homosexuality happens in nature.
This radical new country was built by Christians (founding fathers) even more conservative then the ultra-conservatives of today. The founding fathers are turning over in their graves as we speak. The founders never thought the United States would turn away from its morals and beliefs of that time, yet we have. If I could go back in time and tell them; gays were close to having the same standing as a traditional marriage, they would surely address this in the constitution.
While you're at it, could you tell them that we now allow black people, other minorities, and women of all races to vote? And if that upsets them, would you like to repeal those amendments to the Constitution as well? Oh, and by the way, do some research on Thomas Jefferson's and George Washington's writings on religion before you go assuming the religious beliefs and extent of religious influence on governance that the Founding Fathers had.
When you brand yourself "liberal" you might as well say "lax and eroded convictions" it is somewhere with "if it feels good do it"."
My convictions are fine, and based on actual research and attempting to learn new things. I'll stick to those rather than be converted to the way of thinking of someone who denies that homosexual behavior has been documented in the animal kingdom.
bluesarahlou bluesarahlou 8 years
:highfive: good job Jude! My parents vote absentee and they did too.
Jude-C Jude-C 8 years
I got my absentee ballot and voted NO on Prop 8 already! :jumpin:
snowbunny11 snowbunny11 8 years
I hope someday that my kids won't be taught the results of hate and bigotry, disguised as "Christianity" in their schools, kitty. Those are my morals, where people are not discriminated against based on their gender, skin color or sexuality, and if I have to explain to my children why some people in our society are not treated the same as others, that will be a day when America has failed. We've come a long way in 100 years as far as race and gender issues go, and I think we've come a long way in the past decade as far as gay rights go. I don't have kids yet, but when I do I want them to be as incredulous that a whole group of people were denied rights as I am that we enslaved a group of people based on their skin color. It is not fair to me, as a taxpayer, that someone's religious beliefs, values I DO NOT SHARE, a God that is NOT MINE, should have the right to allow his or her bigoted views displayed in a public classroom. And hyno- I share your question- why is marriage even discussed in a k-12 classroom anyway?! But, if it is, I don't want it to be, "marriage is between a man and woman because that is what God says." And vote NO on Prop 8! Look, even if you don't LIKE gay marriage and gay relationships, why in the world would you amend your state constitution to prohibit it!? No one is forcing you to get gay married! Or hetero divorced! "gee, I never would be getting this divorce if it weren't for the gays!"
ohjeeze ohjeeze 8 years
"To suggest that they are similar to incest or any type of relationship structure that is one sidedly dominated and manipulative over the other is silly." But not all are. That is only your perception based on ...? I'm sure there are people in healthy incestuous relationships just as there people in unhealthy ones. Can you possibly tell me you never met a hetero or homo sexual person who was in a manipulative unhealthy relationship?
sw33tlovin sw33tlovin 8 years
"The state's Supreme Court ruled today that under the equal protection clause of Connecticut's constitution, civil unions discriminate against same-sex couples." yeah, no kidding. it's a shame it has taken this long...
True-Song True-Song 8 years
Well of course I'm not in favor of any unhealthy relationships. I'm not in favor of abuse or coercion. But heterosexual adult relationships can also be unhealthy, abusive, coerced. I'm in favor of adults making decisions about their own relationships, whether we think they're icky or not. I actually do see parallels between how we feel as a society about gay relationships, incest, or polygamy, but I'm not using that as an argument against gays but rather in favor of the others. Of course, politically, I wouldn't use that reasoning. We have to trot out all the safe, non-threatening, together for 20 years gay couples to win over the public, never minding that we never hold heterosexual couples to that standard. (Can you tell I'm in the middle of a Dan Savage book?)
Michelann Michelann 8 years
TrueSong, I didn't get a chance to say so yesterday, but I'm actually alright with incestuous relationships too, so long as it isn't parent-child. Polygamy too, I guess. I do think it's important to make sure nobody ever has to marry somebody they don't want to, and nobody ever has to get married as a child, but I can't find a reason to disallow it.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 8 years
Oh come now True Song incest and in many cases polygamy are coercively manipulated relationships. Now to be honest if there is a polygamist relationship that is in mutual agreement by adult parties and they're happy hey I'm fine with that. I'm just not fine with marrying children and involving them in circles of sex with adults but hey who is. I'm sure I don't have to explain that homosexual relationships are grounded in mutual interest. To suggest that they are similar to incest or any type of relationship structure that is one sidedly dominated and manipulative over the other is silly.
True-Song True-Song 8 years
I'm fine with gay marriage, incest, polygamy. You name a way adults choose to structure their relationships, and I am for it. There is no moral argument against incest. It's just icky, that's all. We think it's icky, so it's illegal, and it's a strong social taboo. I definitely see the parallels.
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 8 years
Bravo hypno.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 8 years
kittyhill thank you for sharing your point of view here today and a further thank you for doing it with some civility. I am an openly gay man brought up in a catholic turned evangelical christian family. I share your concern for the father who was arrested for pushing for parental notification. The circumstances and consequences really angered me. IMO even if the school had no legal obligation for parental notification that simply meant that they were under no direct order from the state to do so it didn't mean that they couldn't do it. They chose not to do it knowing very well that they could honor a parents request to do so and it wouldn't be illegal. What I want to know is what are schools doing teaching Marriage in the first place? To me that point is outrageous across the board gay or straight. If I were in a Gay Marriage I wouldn't want my child's public school teaching it. Marriage is a personal choice that IMO should only be consciously influenced through self and family/faith traditions. The only thing the state is responsible for in this case is being genuine to constitutional expression and ensuring that citizens and organizations respect constitutional law. I also share your concern of government making faiths marry same sex couples against their tradition but isn't proposition 8 in turn doing the same the other way around. Saying to other faiths that would allow such a union that they can not due to your faiths imposition on them. Two wrongs don't make a right. I say you enjoy your faith the way you see fit and let us enjoy our faith the way we see fit and just because our faith may allow same sex marriage there is no reason why that point would have to interfere in either of our lives.
Roarman Roarman 8 years
I actually have no objection to two consenting adults marrying no matter what their sexual preference or relation. I do have a problem with inbreeding though. But if a brother wanted to marry his siter and they didn't plan to breed, more power to them. It is not my place to judge.
kastarte2 kastarte2 8 years
But supposedly it is a state by state thing. And some states do have it as being legal as long as the couple in question doesn't breed. Like if they are too old or genetically incapable. It could just as easily be overturned as gay marriage/civil unions have been in some states and made legal. Of course, some one would have to propose it. It isn't like a federal law or anything though so it could happen.
ohjeeze ohjeeze 8 years
Okay, Thanks. I know it has to do with more than inbreeding though because step parents are not allowed to marry step children and not even sperm donors or long lost relatives.
kastarte2 kastarte2 8 years
I just did my own research and found out a couple interesting answers to your question. Unfortunately my post was flagged because of links. If it ever shows up, you'll see what I found out about gay marriage and incest. :)
kastarte2 kastarte2 8 years
I decided to take my own advice and look into it. I actually found a blog asking almost the same question as you and he got some interesting answers: http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/04/24/171159.php And here is an article from the Boston Globe the talks about the same subject. Why Gay marriage but no bigamy, adultery or incest? http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/05/02/lawful_incest_may_be_on_its_way/ According to wikipedia, incest laws vary from state to state and from country to country just like gay marriage. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_regarding_incest Most sites and sources did say that there are two reasons why incest is made illegal: genetic mutation caused by weakening the DNA with inbreeding and the assumption that most incest occurs between an adult and a child. Apparently there are many people asking the same question as you. Some states even have laws in effect saying that relatives can marry into thier own families as long as they don't intend to breed.
kastarte2 kastarte2 8 years
I'm just saying I thought that the incest thing wasn't a moral question (people used to marry their cousins all the time and nobody thought anything of it) but a matter of inbreeding. Which would make it a completely different matter than gay marriage. I'm pretty sure incest is only illegal because of inbreeding. If you feel passionately about incest, feel free to look it up but I'm pretty sure that is the reason.
kastarte2 kastarte2 8 years
I'm just saying I thought that the incest thing wasn't a moral question (people used to marry their cousins all the time and nobody thought anything of it) but a matter of inbreeding. Which would make it a completely different matter than gay marriage. I'm pretty sure incest is only illegal because of inbreeding. If you feel passionately about incest, feel free to look it up but I'm pretty sure that is the reason.
ohjeeze ohjeeze 8 years
Kastarte2, If to people are in love why shouldn't they be allowed to be married? It seems to me alot of people are responding to my post but nobody is answering my question, and it probably because they don't have a very good answer. Except fcseamstress, Thank You.
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