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Day 2: Lieberman & Thompson Take the Stage & Bush Appears

Day 2: Lieberman & Thompson Take the Stage & Bush Appears

After a quiet day at the convention yesterday, it seemed like the response to the hurricane had galvanized Republicans even more. Every delegate with a Gulf State delegate badge was the object of goodwill and well wishers, and all in the arena seemed relieved to gear up the real convention.

The speakers tonight, former presidential candidate Sen. Fred Thompson, and Independent McCain supporter Sen. Joe Lieberman, took the top in-person billing. President Bush, bumped from his live slot yesterday by the Hurricane, also addressed those assembled via satellite saying: "We need a president who understands the lessons of September 11, 2001: That to protect America, we must stay on the offense, stop attacks before they happen, and not wait to be hit again. The man we need is John McCain."

The job of the Senators tonight was to lay out the biography of the candidate — and given the scant mentions of his name yesterday out of reverence, it was nice to be reminded why everyone was there. To see how they did their job,

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Joe Lieberman was an especially big hit calling McCain a "restless reformer," urging nonpartisan voting, and saying, "I'm here tonight because John McCain is the best choice to bring our country together and lead our country forward. I'm here because John McCain's whole life testifies to a great truth: being a Democrat or a Republican is important. But it is not more important than being an American." Sen. Fred Thompson was a rousing combination of vigor and strength saying, "This man, John McCain, is not intimidated by what the polls say or what is politically safe or popular."

Was it the right time for the Republicans to begin the ramp up? Was the emphasis of McCain's character from Thompson and Lieberman compelling? And Bush on the big screen — right move?

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Cassandra57 Cassandra57 8 years
:ROTFL:
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 8 years
:ROTFL:
raciccarone raciccarone 8 years
But I was really into Thompson! How is that liberal? I was going to vote for him if he had won. Now I'm stuck with Nader.
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 8 years
rac: You're not allowed to die, that's too easy an escape. Who else would we blame for cryptic, snarky liberal comments? :?
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 8 years
rac: You're not allowed to die, that's too easy an escape. Who else would we blame for cryptic, snarky liberal comments? :?
tiabia tiabia 8 years
In defense of me, my responses are majority jokes.
raciccarone raciccarone 8 years
Correction: "...Mr. Thompson whose work I love ..."
raciccarone raciccarone 8 years
I know. It wasn't really a "joke" in the sense that it was completely devoid of the "truth", as much as I thought it was a humorous observation that was A: non-political and not intended as a slight against Mr. Thompson who work I love both on and off the screen. (I would have voted for him had he won.) and B: meant to create an atmosphere of levity. I see that I have failed in both and now I wish I were dead.
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 8 years
rac, it's getting harder to tell the jokes from the serious remarks around here. :ponder:
raciccarone raciccarone 8 years
It was more or less just a joke. Sorry.
Jude-C Jude-C 8 years
I'm a bit late to jump aboard and can't stick around for long today, but I wanted to tell lil that this was very well-said:
I think experience was more of a relevant argument in the Democratic primaries, when the two main candidates shared very similar views and things like experience, speaking ability, and personality mattered more than they matter now, when the candidate hold different views on a lot of issues.
I agree completely.
Jude-C Jude-C 8 years
I'm a bit late to jump aboard and can't stick around for long today, but I wanted to tell lil that this was very well-said:<blockquote>I think experience was more of a relevant argument in the Democratic primaries, when the two main candidates shared very similar views and things like experience, speaking ability, and personality mattered more than they matter now, when the candidate hold different views on a lot of issues.</blockquote>I agree completely.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
And he's giving a speech, so he's obviously active.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
I thought I would post some of the statements dealing with issues from prime time, to debunk the myth that the speeches were all attacks on Obama and didn't address the issues: Lieberman: Every day across our country, millions of our fellow citizens are facing very big and real problems. They're worried about their homes and their jobs, their businesses. They're worried about the outrageous cost of gasoline and health insurance, and they are worried about the threats from our enemies abroad. Bush: John is a steadfast opponent of wasteful spending. As president, he will stand up to the high tax crowd in Congress and make the tax relief permanent. He will invest in the energy technologies of tomorrow and lift the ban on drilling for America's offshore oil today. Thompson: At a point when the war in Iraq was going badly and the public lost confidence, John stood up and called for more troops... ...There has been no time in our nation’s history, since we first pledged allegiance to the American flag, when the character, judgment and leadership of our President was more important. Terrorists, rogue nations developing nuclear weapons, an increasingly belligerent Russia. Intensifying competition from China. Spending at home that threatens to bankrupt future generations. For decades an expanding government-increasingly wasteful and too often incompetent. They addressed the issues and where McCain stands on the issues. Actually, in re-reading the speeches, there was very little mention of/criticism of Obama. The speeches were similar in form to the speeches given on the opening nights of the Democratic National Convention. Typically the opening speeches pump up the candidate and touch on issues. The acceptance speech usually delves a little deeper into the issues, as do some of the less televised speeches during the day.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
I thought I would post some of the statements dealing with issues from prime time, to debunk the myth that the speeches were all attacks on Obama and didn't address the issues:Lieberman:Every day across our country, millions of our fellow citizens are facing very big and real problems. They're worried about their homes and their jobs, their businesses. They're worried about the outrageous cost of gasoline and health insurance, and they are worried about the threats from our enemies abroad.Bush:John is a steadfast opponent of wasteful spending.As president, he will stand up to the high tax crowd in Congress and make the tax relief permanent.He will invest in the energy technologies of tomorrow and lift the ban on drilling for America's offshore oil today.Thompson:At a point when the war in Iraq was going badly and the public lost confidence, John stood up and called for more troops......There has been no time in our nation’s history, since we first pledged allegiance to the American flag, when the character, judgment and leadership of our President was more important.Terrorists, rogue nations developing nuclear weapons, an increasingly belligerent Russia.Intensifying competition from China.Spending at home that threatens to bankrupt future generations. For decades an expanding government-increasingly wasteful and too often incompetent.They addressed the issues and where McCain stands on the issues. Actually, in re-reading the speeches, there was very little mention of/criticism of Obama. The speeches were similar in form to the speeches given on the opening nights of the Democratic National Convention. Typically the opening speeches pump up the candidate and touch on issues. The acceptance speech usually delves a little deeper into the issues, as do some of the less televised speeches during the day.
tiabia tiabia 8 years
He's still liked and obviously had a pretty strong following...doesn't necessarily mean "active".
piper23 piper23 8 years
"They say they are not going to take any water out of your side of the bucket, just the "other" side of the bucket! That's their idea of tax reform." - Love it. I would love to have seen him debate Obama.
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 8 years
There's always another game, or another season. Stepping out of the primaries is not the same as "quitting". He's obviously still active, or we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 8 years
There's always another game, or another season. Stepping out of the primaries is not the same as "quitting". He's obviously still active, or we wouldn't be having this discussion.
tiabia tiabia 8 years
and let's be real...they never quit. And did Thompson not get defeated during the early portion of the Republican primary, therefore forcing him to, you know...quit?
tiabia tiabia 8 years
and let's be real...they never quit.And did Thompson not get defeated during the early portion of the Republican primary, therefore forcing him to, you know...quit?
raciccarone raciccarone 8 years
A man who never quits is never defeated? Uhm, have you ever seen a sporting event because one half of the participants are always defeated.
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 8 years
Also: "But a man who never quits is never defeated." And, my favorite (because it *should* be so obvious, but apparently it isn't): "Now our opponents tell you not to worry about their tax increases. "They tell you they are not going to tax your family. "No, they're just going to tax "businesses"! So unless you buy something from a "business", like groceries or clothes or gasoline ... or unless you get a paycheck from a big or a small "business", don't worry ... it's not going to affect you. "They say they are not going to take any water out of your side of the bucket, just the "other" side of the bucket! That's their idea of tax reform."
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 8 years
Also: "But a man who never quits is never defeated."And, my favorite (because it *should* be so obvious, but apparently it isn't): "Now our opponents tell you not to worry about their tax increases."They tell you they are not going to tax your family."No, they're just going to tax "businesses"! So unless you buy something from a "business", like groceries or clothes or gasoline ... or unless you get a paycheck from a big or a small "business", don't worry ... it's not going to affect you."They say they are not going to take any water out of your side of the bucket, just the "other" side of the bucket! That's their idea of tax reform."
Kelliegrl Kelliegrl 8 years
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