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Is Evoking 9/11 Always Inappropriate?

Non-profit and antismoking group, Action on Smoking and Health (ASH) of New Zealand recently released this antismoking advertisement. It reads: "Terrorism related deaths since 2001 11,337. Tobacco-related deaths since 2001 30,000,000."

Besides those depressing statistics, the ad uses the provocative image of cigarettes turned Twin Towers. Are you offended by the image, or does it make you think more seriously about the grave consequence of tobacco use?
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Shopaholichunny Shopaholichunny 8 years
Go M3! :WOOHOO:
Shopaholichunny Shopaholichunny 8 years
Go M3! :WOOHOO:
Nitrobezene Nitrobezene 8 years
Agree to disagree
Nitrobezene Nitrobezene 8 years
Agree to disagree
mymellowman mymellowman 8 years
You're the one who started attacking by calling me a hypocrite, or should I say "H y p o c r i t e s"I've defended my main position with logic and did additionally insert "my opinion."I'll debate this issue til the cows come home, just make logical arguments instead of referring to "attacks."
mymellowman mymellowman 8 years
You're the one who started attacking by calling me a hypocrite, or should I say "H y p o c r i t e s" I've defended my main position with logic and did additionally insert "my opinion." I'll debate this issue til the cows come home, just make logical arguments instead of referring to "attacks."
Nitrobezene Nitrobezene 8 years
Attack me all you want. It's my opinion.
JovianSkies JovianSkies 8 years
I'm with Cine_lover and Mymellowman on this one. In the most simple of terms:Sperm fertilizes egg.DNA is created. DNA is what makes a human.Human grows.Birth.I cannot understand why this is complicated.
JovianSkies JovianSkies 8 years
I'm with Cine_lover and Mymellowman on this one. In the most simple of terms: Sperm fertilizes egg. DNA is created. DNA is what makes a human. Human grows. Birth. I cannot understand why this is complicated.
cine_lover cine_lover 8 years
"(if you need my to go further on this I will, pm...... just another sign of how bad our education system is...)" - What I find sad, is that she can't tell the difference between a vegetable and a human. Note to self, find out where she went to school, and don't send future children there.
cine_lover cine_lover 8 years
"(if you need my to go further on this I will, pm...... just another sign of how bad our education system is...)" - What I find sad, is that she can't tell the difference between a vegetable and a human. Note to self, find out where she went to school, and don't send future children there.
mymellowman mymellowman 8 years
"Cancer is also a mass of cells that begin to multiply... I wonder if that is life as well?" - I'm hoping you realize (fingers crossed) that if you keep letting cancer cells multiply they will not grow into a full, separate human."If are you aren't making a human but don't think it's right to take away a fetus with the same consciousness as a vegetable, aren't you a hypocrite?" My sperm isn't inside my body multiplying into a human, it takes the act of sex and the union of a man's sperm and woman's egg to create cells that can and will multiply into a human. (if you need my to go further on this I will, pm...... just another sign of how bad our education system is...)There's no hypocrisy, but there does seem to be some Idiocracy in your post. :)"So every second you're spending not making a baby, you're hindering what could have been a human just like having an abortion." - There is a GIANT difference between not having sex (thus not creating life) and having sex (joining the sperm of a man and the egg of a woman, creating life not because you wanted to but because you made a dumb decision.)You, my friend, are an idiot. :)
mymellowman mymellowman 8 years
"Cancer is also a mass of cells that begin to multiply... I wonder if that is life as well?" - I'm hoping you realize (fingers crossed) that if you keep letting cancer cells multiply they will not grow into a full, separate human. "If are you aren't making a human but don't think it's right to take away a fetus with the same consciousness as a vegetable, aren't you a hypocrite?" My sperm isn't inside my body multiplying into a human, it takes the act of sex and the union of a man's sperm and woman's egg to create cells that can and will multiply into a human. (if you need my to go further on this I will, pm...... just another sign of how bad our education system is...) There's no hypocrisy, but there does seem to be some Idiocracy in your post. :) "So every second you're spending not making a baby, you're hindering what could have been a human just like having an abortion." - There is a GIANT difference between not having sex (thus not creating life) and having sex (joining the sperm of a man and the egg of a woman, creating life not because you wanted to but because you made a dumb decision.) You, my friend, are an idiot. :)
Nitrobezene Nitrobezene 8 years
Cancer is also a mass of cells that begin to multiply... I wonder if that is life as well? Every time a man masturbates, he's killing his sperm that could have been a living feeling thing. Every second you don't spend having sex and getting pregnant you are hindering the potential human life you have between your legs. If are you aren't making a human but don't think it's right to take away a fetus with the same consciousness as a vegetable, aren't you a hypocrite? So every second you're spending not making a baby, you're hindering what could have been a human just like having an abortion. H y p o c r i t e s.
freegracefrom freegracefrom 8 years
How disrespectful to the memory of the victims of 9/11. Personally, I think the shock value is more likely to turn people off to the message than anything else.
mymellowman mymellowman 8 years
"Maybe that is the next step?" - What? Putting pictures of people in ovens next to a pack of cigarettes?"I also hate when people are against abortion because their reason is "you're killing what could have potentially been a human"." - First, it is not "potentially" a life, it is life. Cells have begun to mutiply, thus life has been created. That's science for you.Additionally, I believe you answered this when you said "It's the flat out truth, like it or not. Stupid."
mymellowman mymellowman 8 years
"Maybe that is the next step?" - What? Putting pictures of people in ovens next to a pack of cigarettes? "I also hate when people are against abortion because their reason is "you're killing what could have potentially been a human"." - First, it is not "potentially" a life, it is life. Cells have begun to mutiply, thus life has been created. That's science for you. Additionally, I believe you answered this when you said "It's the flat out truth, like it or not. Stupid."
JovianSkies JovianSkies 8 years
Distasteful. Respect for the dead should be excersized, no matter the cause, and comparing murder to ciggarettes is outrageous. I'm astounded that the company thought it was a good idea, and I agree that the image of 9/11 is repeatedly being cheapened.
JovianSkies JovianSkies 8 years
Distasteful. Respect for the dead should be excersized, no matter the cause, and comparing murder to ciggarettes is outrageous. I'm astounded that the company thought it was a good idea, and I agree that the image of 9/11 is repeatedly being cheapened.
beingtazim beingtazim 8 years
as someone who lived in New Zealand all of last year - i can say that almost all of their ads are in poor taste! there was one on a bus shelter near my apartment that had Maori (indigenous) people on it and "endangered species" and it was something to do with smoking. I have a picture of it somewhere...
demeter demeter 8 years
I understand both sides, but I think it's completely inappropriate.
Nitrobezene Nitrobezene 8 years
It's the flat out truth, like it or not. I also hate when people are against abortion because their reason is "you're killing what could have potentially been a human". Stupid.
mswender mswender 8 years
I thought it was distasteful at first, but then I really looked at it and thought about the numbers and it is really powerful, if you want to compare the holocaust to the deaths due to nicotine addiction, go for it. maybe someone will pay attention then. Believe me I am a Jew, the Holocaust was a horrific period where millions were tortured and died, yet we allow this commonly accepted substance to destroy so many people a day. Maybe that is the next step?
mswender mswender 8 years
I thought it was distasteful at first, but then I really looked at it and thought about the numbers and it is really powerful, if you want to compare the holocaust to the deaths due to nicotine addiction, go for it. maybe someone will pay attention then. Believe me I am a Jew, the Holocaust was a horrific period where millions were tortured and died, yet we allow this commonly accepted substance to destroy so many people a day. Maybe that is the next step?
mymellowman mymellowman 8 years
"I'm just tired of everyone being so damned concerned with human life but only when it suits them. They care about abortion and they care about Darfur because the media tells them to, but if they really cared they would know about the millions of people who die everyday for other equally as senseless and tragic reasons." - You imply that people don't care that people are dieing from smoking, which I do not believe is the case at all, but it is not something that people are nearly as outspoken about because of the nature of the situation.People fighting against abortion fight so hard to protect the life of an innocent unborn child who is in a situation where they are not given a choice. People speak so highly about Darfur because these people who are being affected, for the most part, are stuck in a situation that they do not have much of a choice.People who are killed by terrorists are not given a choice on whether or not they want to die, but smokers have a choice to stop smoking. They have a choice that none of the other people you mentioned have. This is why people are more outspoken about these other causes of death, because others are trying to give a chance to those without it."You're saying that people who smoke deserve to die?" - I'm not saying they should die, but it is a consequence of a choice they have made. This is not comparable to someone who has been murdered."Is that what they choose?" - It is a choice they made, not a choice made for them by someone else. "You may think my point of view is ridiculous, but I think yours is far more." - Well, you may think that all you like, but you are wrong.
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