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Four Philadelphia Cops Involved in Beating Have Been Fired

Philadelphia Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey has announced that following the May 5 beating of three suspects in a drug-related triple shooting, four police officers will be fired. The beating was caught on tape by a news helicopter and shows 15 officers descending upon the car. Two of the four being fired were new recruits on probation; the other two, more experienced.

The most senior officer present has been demoted to the rank of police officer and transferred to another district for failing to stop the beating, though the tape shows he had no contact with the suspects. Three other officers were suspended for up to 15 days and and have been transferred to other districts. To see why the beating happened, the response, and the tape,

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At the time of the incident, emotions were running high as a fellow officer had been killed two days earlier during a robbery. The men from the car are in custody on attempted murder, assault and firearms charges. The mayor of Philadelphia, Michael Nutter, has said he was satisfied by the department’s response to the beating.

However one of the lawyers for the men in the car says, “The only reason these people are not in handcuffs is because they are police officers. They behaved like a pack of wild animals.” Adding to this, the chairwoman of the National Action Network (led by Al Sharpton) said “The position of the citizens of Philadelphia is that the response by Ramsey and Nutter was not enough. We want all the officers prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.”

Is the response enough? Too severe? Did the known danger following the murder of the officer two days prior, inform their response — or send it out of control? Should the officers be treated like civilians, or are cases involving cops inherently different given the situations they face? Since the men in the car are being held on very serious offenses, did they earn severe treatment?

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hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 8 years
First of all it is the job of a police officer to apprehend criminals not dispence justice. That job belongs to the judiciary. This is where this situation went all wrong. Instead of apprehending the criminals using reasonable force they allowed their passions to circumvent there oaths and for a moment they were no longer police officers they just a pack of vengeful angry people and for that they should be held accountable.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 8 years
First of all it is the job of a police officer to apprehend criminals not dispence justice. That job belongs to the judiciary. This is where this situation went all wrong. Instead of apprehending the criminals using reasonable force they allowed their passions to circumvent there oaths and for a moment they were no longer police officers they just a pack of vengeful angry people and for that they should be held accountable.
nyaradzom2001 nyaradzom2001 8 years
If they were NY cops they would have been given a commendation and been paraded as heroes, what a crock of sh!t, 3 men shoot one man and go scot free and these guys beat and get fired, I can safely say once again that the american way of doing things is F**KED UP!
playacmb playacmb 8 years
This is not the first time Ramsey lets his police force go berserk. He's already done that in Washington DC with the World Bank protests, the IFC building by the GW Hospital and at his command he sent his cops to beat up people and cuff them and send them to jail. Even the nurses that were cutting through the park to go work at the hospital. He did such a good job that the city had to settle and the new Mayor did not renew his contract, but they put as Police Chief one of his proteges. A former Philadelphia police chief was hired in Miami because of his experience in mob control when the economic meetings in Miami and he sent the Miami police to beat up people in downtown Miami down by the water in Biscayne Boulevard were there was no escape for anybody. I don't think he is there anymore, Miami wanted to show strength and they hired Timoney and Miami got a very bad rap. My point is to let people know about the Rampart mentality of the Philadelphia police and Ramsey and his reputation that follows him that he was kicked out very unceremoniously by the City. I live in WDC and that park is used by every body to cross over to go to the library, the Spanish Embassy, to go to the bus stop,even joggers that cross through the park, the hotels, the restaurants and many people that are guests of the State Department stay in the hotels by that park and what if Ramsey's minions would have beat up some of those guests? GWU is there, banks are there, World Bank employees going to work or going out in a mission. there are lots more people who could have been hurt because Ramsey and former Mayor Williams are stupid and craven. So how more stupid can Ramsey get?
playacmb playacmb 8 years
This is not the first time Ramsey lets his police force go berserk.He's already done that in Washington DC with the World Bank protests, the IFC building by the GW Hospital and at his command he sent his cops to beat up people and cuff them and send them to jail. Even the nurses that were cutting through the park to go work at the hospital. He did such a good job that the city had to settle and the new Mayor did not renew his contract, but they put as Police Chief one of his proteges.A former Philadelphia police chief was hired in Miami because of his experience in mob control when the economic meetings in Miami and he sent the Miami police to beat up people in downtown Miami down by the water in Biscayne Boulevard were there was no escape for anybody. I don't think he is there anymore, Miami wanted to show strength and they hired Timoney and Miami got a very bad rap.My point is to let people know about the Rampart mentality of the Philadelphia police and Ramsey and his reputation that follows him that he was kicked out very unceremoniously by the City.I live in WDC and that park is used by every body to cross over to go to the library, the Spanish Embassy, to go to the bus stop,even joggers that cross through the park, the hotels, the restaurants and many people that are guests of the State Department stay in the hotels by that park and what if Ramsey's minions would have beat up some of those guests? GWU is there, banks are there, World Bank employees going to work or going out in a mission. there are lots more people who could have been hurt because Ramsey and former Mayor Williams are stupid and craven. So how more stupid can Ramsey get?
talktotisha talktotisha 8 years
I can't even lie to y'all. I showed this video to my 14 year old son and told him that life is not fair...and it is even more unfair when you make poor decisions!!! This applies to both the suspects/victims and the police/ attackers.It is hard to fathom that I would ever be the victim of such a beat down because I would never a) knowingly participate in criminal activity and b) flee from the police. I will refrain from playing the 'race card' this time. Y'all expect it and I just hate being predictable :)Regards!
talktotisha talktotisha 8 years
I can't even lie to y'all. I showed this video to my 14 year old son and told him that life is not fair...and it is even more unfair when you make poor decisions!!! This applies to both the suspects/victims and the police/ attackers. It is hard to fathom that I would ever be the victim of such a beat down because I would never a) knowingly participate in criminal activity and b) flee from the police. I will refrain from playing the 'race card' this time. Y'all expect it and I just hate being predictable :) Regards!
ladychaos ladychaos 8 years
They need to file criminal lawsuits against them. Honestly, the ones that need to be prosecuted are those murderers of Sean Bell. I do NOT hate cops, I had both an aunt and an uncle (both now retired) who were police officers (detroit pd, and NYPD respectively).I even have a good friend who's an officer in Chicago. There are plenty of good officers out there. There are just a few though that abuse their powers (i.e. the officers that use their sirens to run red lights up to officers that get violent verbally and physically with people). But its just like everybody else: there are always your good guys with the bad guys in every category of people out there.
stephley stephley 8 years
If the police department has decided on these punishments this quickly, they obviously believe the officers did something wrong, no matter what their emotional state at the time.
kurniakasih kurniakasih 8 years
Cops aren't judges, jury and executioners. I mean, I always thought that in this country, even if you suspect someone of being guilty, it's: innocent until proven guilty. Not guilty until proven innocent. I always thought there's a set law system and that those officers (every police officers) are supposed to enforce the laws, that's why they're 'public 'servants'' and we pay them via our tax. What if that guy is innocent (the one they're beating on)? And as for resisting arrest, oh Lordy, they tape their arrests all the time, if there's not a tape regarding that, I DOUBT it. If you watch 20/20 a few days ago, sometimes police tapes conveniently get 'missing.' Especially in cases against a misbehaving police officer (who broke the law). I'm not saying that cops are totally bad, but there are bad apples and for a law enforcement officers, I really think that their action was OUT OF LINE. I saw the tape, geez. That was inexcusable.
kurniakasih kurniakasih 8 years
Cops aren't judges, jury and executioners. I mean, I always thought that in this country, even if you suspect someone of being guilty, it's: innocent until proven guilty. Not guilty until proven innocent. I always thought there's a set law system and that those officers (every police officers) are supposed to enforce the laws, that's why they're 'public 'servants'' and we pay them via our tax.What if that guy is innocent (the one they're beating on)? And as for resisting arrest, oh Lordy, they tape their arrests all the time, if there's not a tape regarding that, I DOUBT it. If you watch 20/20 a few days ago, sometimes police tapes conveniently get 'missing.' Especially in cases against a misbehaving police officer (who broke the law). I'm not saying that cops are totally bad, but there are bad apples and for a law enforcement officers, I really think that their action was OUT OF LINE. I saw the tape, geez. That was inexcusable.
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 8 years
My stepdad is a sheriff and i know firsthand the kind of pressure Cops are under, that said, its no excuse for what these cops did.
zeze zeze 8 years
Thanks CS :) "Since the men in the car are being held on very serious offenses, did they earn severe treatment?" ^Scares me.
zeze zeze 8 years
Thanks CS :) "Since the men in the car are being held on very serious offenses, did they earn severe treatment?"^Scares me.
popgoestheworld popgoestheworld 8 years
"Since the men in the car are being held on very serious offenses, did they earn severe treatment?" You are kidding right?
popgoestheworld popgoestheworld 8 years
"Since the men in the car are being held on very serious offenses, did they earn severe treatment?"You are kidding right?
tiff58 tiff58 8 years
I live just outside of Philly, so this is a huge story here. I have a huge problem with the cops being fired at this time, because they were not given a fair trial. They were not even given the same type of chance to defend themselves as a common criminal. The criminals were just involved in a SHOOTING. Meaning, they most likely had guns. Philadelphia, a week or two earlier, experienced the execution of a cop. Not to mention that MANY cops have been murdered recently in that city. We saw a tape that was 50-60 seconds out of 11 minutes where we have no idea what went on. If the criminals did not resist arrest, and we find out some other details of what went on during that scene, I absolutely think that these men should be punished, but I think we need to know more facts.
tiff58 tiff58 8 years
I live just outside of Philly, so this is a huge story here. I have a huge problem with the cops being fired at this time, because they were not given a fair trial. They were not even given the same type of chance to defend themselves as a common criminal. The criminals were just involved in a SHOOTING. Meaning, they most likely had guns. Philadelphia, a week or two earlier, experienced the execution of a cop. Not to mention that MANY cops have been murdered recently in that city. We saw a tape that was 50-60 seconds out of 11 minutes where we have no idea what went on.If the criminals did not resist arrest, and we find out some other details of what went on during that scene, I absolutely think that these men should be punished, but I think we need to know more facts.
CitizenSugar CitizenSugar 8 years
The District Attorney is still deciding whether to file criminal charges against the officers and the FBI is also reviewing the tape, as far as I can tell. . .
zeze zeze 8 years
so there are no criminal charges?
raciccarone raciccarone 8 years
I feel for those cops, I really do. When you put your life on the line (two of their ranks were recently killed) and are then put in a situation where you believe you have caught one of your coworker's killers, I know I'd be hard pressed not to kick the crap out of them. That said, this is probably why I'm not a cop.
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
It's good to see that the police officers who were involved in the beating were punished accordingly. It won't matter though. Their actions blacken the eyes of the whole institution. It'll be more fodder for the "They only pick on my race" criers. I'm off to take care of business. Talk to everyone later :wave: GTR :mob: Secretary of the DAMNED. I like that
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
It's good to see that the police officers who were involved in the beating were punished accordingly. It won't matter though. Their actions blacken the eyes of the whole institution. It'll be more fodder for the "They only pick on my race" criers.I'm off to take care of business. Talk to everyone later :wave:GTR :mob:Secretary of the DAMNED. I like that
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