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Front Page: Haiti Faces Weather Catastrophe, Ice Sheet Breaks Loose, Gas Explosion Kills Miners in China

  • Haiti Faces Weather Catastrophe:
    After being hit by three storms in less than 21 days, killing 170 people and causing thousands to flee their homes, Haiti's president says the country is facing a "catastrophe." The latest storm, Hanna, could cause more destruction than the one in 2004 that killed 3,000 people. The Haitian leader is holding emergency talks with donor countries appealing for aid.
  • Ice Sheet Breaks Loose:
    A chunk of ice shelf almost the size of New York City has broken away in Canada's northern Arctic. Scientists say it's a dramatic indication as to how much warmer temperatures are. The 19-square mile shelf is part of the 4,500-year-old Markham Ice Shelf and is now adrift in the Arctic Ocean.

  • Gas Explosion Kills Miners in China:
    A gas explosion has killed 23 and trapped four others in a mine in China's northeast. A spokesman confirmed the explosion but would not say more. China's coal mines are among the world's deadliest with fires, floods, and other disasters killing an average of 13 miners a day.

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pinky-tuscadero pinky-tuscadero 7 years
I saw this video about how unhappy the earth is with global warming. http://www.vimeo.com/1664889
bluesarahlou bluesarahlou 7 years
I know what you're saying Dave...I'm sure there's a more horrid job than coal mining which makes the people actually WANT this type of job. Btw I didn't mean to phrase that as a question ;) Obviously if the stats are up to 13 people dying every day, the Chinese govt isn't really concerned enough to do something about it.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 7 years
As I'm sure UnDave does, supercharger. I am thinking that he was either a)being sarcastic or b)making the point that, to the Chinese government, the lives of coal miners are not more valuable than that.
supercharger5150 supercharger5150 7 years
Ouch UnDave!... I think human life has more value than that.
supercharger5150 supercharger5150 7 years
Whether you believe that people are causing global warming or that it's a cycle, I don't think there is any harm in finding other energy sources to reduce our dependence on foreign powers and if we are causing it, the risk will reduce. The earth will only have a certain amount of oil and once we use it up- whenever that is- it will be gone. We owe it to future generations, our children's children to cut back. IMO
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
Of course not. They have plenty of people to replace them.
bluesarahlou bluesarahlou 7 years
"China's coal mines are among the world's deadliest with fires, floods, and other disasters killing an average of 13 miners a day." :o Wow. And nothing is done to improve the conditions?
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
My argument is that the ice on that shelf is 4000, but the ice shelf may not be. I will concede that there are places on the earth that are warming (it certantly isn't WI, and the farmer's almanac is predicting the an even colder and snowier winter than last year, which was the worst in 15 years) but there is a sufficient lack of proof as to what the causes are. Can you explain why this shelf didn't melt off in the 1500's when it was warmer than it is today?
rabidmoon rabidmoon 7 years
*too (ffs! I hate typos)
rabidmoon rabidmoon 7 years
Ok Lilkimbo, I will say someone will benefit. The sad thing is....everyone actually could. And on that same point, let me counter: there is a virtual catalogue of existing global corporations, with vested interests - that directly profit from opposing it to, can you deny that?
rabidmoon rabidmoon 7 years
(Depending on if you count it as "year to date=end of August or year to date=September, I said 3999 years, 4 months. It could be 3999 years, 3 months, depending on the actual date of the research.)
lilkimbo lilkimbo 7 years
Rabidmoon, people would want to lie about it because there's a lot of money to be made.
rabidmoon rabidmoon 7 years
UnDave, the ice sheet is 4000 years old. Since January 2008, 25% OF that 4000-year-old-ice-sheet is gone. That is 8 months, versus the other 3,999 years and 4 months of its lifespan. To directly address your question of 100 years, as recently as 90 years ago, Ellesmere Island boasted a single vast ice shelf some 3,500 square miles in size. This is easy enough to verify online if you wish to. And speaking specifically of the Ward shelf, another Canadian iceshelf, and to directly address your question, over the past 100 years, this expanse of ice has retreated by 90%. Do the math and just ask yourself, if you really love your kids...and want the best future for them, is it worth the RISK to say "I don't care, its not us?" Climactic shifts have occurred due to natural phenomena since the Earth existed, nobody argues that. However, in the past 100 years, and with a substantial acceleration in the increase between 1950 and today in particular, patterns of global warming and the subsequent effects are occurring at a pace UNPRECEDENTED IN THE PAST SEVERAL MILLION YEARS, faster than natural cycles by not a small margin - but a tremendous one. Despite a slow solar sunspot season (which can give a temporary effect of cooling)....! Despite La Nina (which, for some, can give a temporary effect of cooling)....! The world IS warming up on a slower cycle - do not be fooled by a short-term trend due to unrelated phenomena. Rising sea levels are already affecting low-lying communities in the Far East, South Seas, and the Pacific Rim. Snowmelt is occurring at rates not seen before, pouring freshwater into the saline ocean water and affecting everything from ocean temperatures (and thus marine life, including the fish humans enjoy eating) to the Gulf Stream, climate patterns in Europe. There is enough data out there for anyone to look at, examine freely for themselves, if they bother to look. For God's sake why would we lie about this? People that care about the planet aren't out to "getcha", we're just trying to get people to give a bit of consideration to their actions and how they affect the globe. It could all be avoided. It could all be handled a different way. But no, let's do it the easy way and screw our own children and grandchildren out of a better future than the legacy this will leave them. If we are wrong, we are wrong. Time will tell. But if we are right, then the consequences are tragic, and for that reason alone, why must people be so damn insistent on sticking their heads in the sand? Is the risk really worth it? Is it?
lilkimbo lilkimbo 7 years
I definitely agree with you on the dangerous weather, yy. I think we are contributing to it, but not causing it. I think most people would agree with that, but they would disagree on the percentages. I might say it's 50% us, 50% natural. You might say it's 90% us, 10% natural, Dave might say it's 10% us, 90% natural.
yesteryear yesteryear 7 years
see that picture of haiti? get ready for that to happen in colorado. if it's us causing it or not, we are in for some seriously dangerous weather.
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
Where was the ice sheet 100 years ago? 200 years ago? Does anyone know. What has the snowfall in the upper regions of Canada been like? Is this the first time an ice shelf has broken off ever, or just in recorded history?
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 7 years
climates change, its happened throughout earths history. Nothing new here. Is it us? that's debatable.
rabidmoon rabidmoon 7 years
Yeah the ice melt made the news here too..they said on Tuesday that the five ice shelves along Ellesmere Island in the Far North, which are over 4000 years old, have shrunk by like 23% THIS YEAR alone. That is 1/4 of their entire size. This year, so far, alone. Over a 4000 year period. And the Caribbean, those people must be feeling hammered every hurricane season - I don't know how they manage it...I guess, in some cases, they don't. :(
ilanac13 ilanac13 7 years
i read about the ice shelf breaking yesterday and that's really scary to me. i think that we all need to realize that the temperatures are rising too quickly and we're in for a lot of trouble. we've been reading about how the icebergs and ice shelves in the poles are breaking off in large pieces and there's nothing that we can do to repair that - but we can try to slow down the process. if water levels start to rice across the globe - then we're in for trouble on the coasts. it HAS to be hard to live in the caribbean this time of year. haiti's getting hit a lot this year and in past years they've gotten it pretty bad as well.
Marni7 Marni7 7 years
o no Haiti! Why do things like this happen in the poorest of regions? I am their neighbor (born in Dominican Republic) and the living conditions there are already pretty bad..its crazyness
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