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Fully Loaded? Britain Brags, Sells Most Weapons to the World

Britain saw £9.7 billion in new business last year, thanks to its role as the world's biggest arms exporter. The country's Minster for Trade and Investment boasted that the achievement highlights that the UK has "some of the world's most technologically sophisticated companies." Britain beat out the US, who was the five-time defending defense champion, as well as Russia.

One British citizen offered his two pence on the London Times website: "It is a sorry state of affairs that a country that sent its own troops into Iraq on the premise of removing 'weapons of mass destruction' is the largest exporter of those weapons around the world." Do you see any hypocrisy?

Meanwhile, Barack Obama seems content on letting Britain win the weapon crown from now on. In a video for the Caucus4Priorities, Obama says he will slow the development of new combat systems and will not weaponize space. Obama explains that as president he would set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons; America would lead the way by not developing any new nukes itself. Obama says his sole priority for defense spending would be protecting Americans, not defense contractors.

Do you think Obama's attitude toward defense will protect or endanger America? Is he brilliant or naive?

To see a very pacifistic Obama explain his views,

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cine_lover cine_lover 8 years
Jill, it is true that Obama and McCain's ideas on this topic are similar, but they are not the same. The goal of Obama is to rid America and the world of Nuclear weapons, which we all know is not going to happen, where as McCain wants to reduce the size of nuclear arsenal. But you are correct in they are quite similar on this topic.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
No I'm not saying that at all. I just didn't like the term "all this" because thats a false representation.
raciccarone raciccarone 8 years
Cabaker, so the quantity of illegal activity is what's wrong? By your logic, if I just robbed one bank, it's okay?
trésjolie1 trésjolie1 8 years
:ROTFL:
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
Nothing to forgive, thanks for clarifying.. :evil: We could send the nukes we have out into the vastness of space, see if we could hit Pluto?
trésjolie1 trésjolie1 8 years
I guess what I meant was that we need to halt our nuclear warfare programs, as we already have them I don't know what we should do with the ones we do have. Certainly we can disassemble them, but that still means we have them.. tricky business. I do believe it has an effect even so. It would be very bad if most countries obtained nukes and someone started putting them to use. I think a political statement like Obama (and sometimes McCain) has put forward is to try to calm the waters internationally, and make others see us as peacemakers again, instead of warmongers. I don't think any President will do anything close to giving up the opportunity to use extreme measures to protect our country. But we do need an image rehaul.
trésjolie1 trésjolie1 8 years
OK, good point. Bad choice in words as I don't know whether they are or not. Forgive?
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
I know that, but I thought you had said we were building more. I'm confused.
trésjolie1 trésjolie1 8 years
No, the US is currently in possession of nuclear warheads. We just don't want anyone else to have them too.
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
Cab - Raci doesn't understand the differnce between intelligence gathering and torture. I agree with you that we also nned to get our intelligence agencies to work together, not in competition with each other.
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
tresjolie - Are we still building nuclear warheads? I thought we had stopped making those when we realized that we could destroy the world 3 times over.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
"all this"? you mean the MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of people that we detain and torture... :?
trésjolie1 trésjolie1 8 years
out - our
trésjolie1 trésjolie1 8 years
I draw the line between military research and developing nuclear warheads. Nuclear warheads for the use in combat should be halted if we want any of our enemies or even neutral countries to do so as well. But when it comes to science, and intelligence we need to be on top both now and in the future. It's important that the new President states he will not militarize space, because the Chinese and the North Koreans are getting real paranoid on that subject. And before we know it another technological cold war could develop. I don't know all that much about space warfare, but I do know that if the Chinese (I'm using them because they have been testing exactly this quite recently) shoot down out satellites either containing say sensitive material or one that controls public/private services it could be an attack on our national safety. Both the US and the Chinese have been acquiring and tested these technologies. The US did it to a satellite that (they said) was going to crash with another satellite or do some other damage(someone here remember precisely?). I don't think the Chinese took their word for it, though there is no way for me to know whether it was a just cause, or if they were in fact just testing their stuff, which they heavily criticized China for doing not long ago. But again, Obama isn't saying we are going to stop researching and developing technology, he is saying we should set an example and not develop nuclear warheads if we want others, especially our enemies, to stop too.
raciccarone raciccarone 8 years
Cabaker: "Well maybe if we were allowed to use our intelligence agencies to their fullest extent we could prevent things like that." If all this torture and illegal detention is your idea of restraint, I'd hate to see your vision of having intelligence agencies use their 'full extent'.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 8 years
You're right UnDave it is rarely the practice and I wouldn't say most but I would agree that many inventions have come from military research. This is my point new technology doesn't necessarily have to be born out of research focused at producing a weapon. It's about changing priorities and focus. If we are as you suggest to be bound by the chains of status quo simply because it’s the way it's been done. We might as well through our hands up and say why bother. We were gifted with human ingenuity for a reason to learn from our mistakes. I suggest we use it. As for the security of the United States Sen. Obama is not suggesting a complete halt on weapons research and development. That would be reckless and irresponsible and would make me give my vote to Sen. McCain. He understands that just as the U.S. leads in so many other areas we have also lead in the proliferation of weapons around the world. To continue to submit to such a standard which is nothing short of a crime against humanity simply because it's the track we're on and the track we've been on is not leadership, its indifference at its worst.
janneth janneth 8 years
Never mind, I take it back about The Road. It is too horrible and powerful. I have not been able to get it out of my mind, for months. And I don't want to do that to any of you.
janneth janneth 8 years
You guys, have you read A Canticle for Liebowitz? I just finished it yesterday. And have any of you read The Road. OMG. These books are great reading for this topic. Both novels.
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
That's a great theory hypno, but that's rarely the practice. Most of the great inventions came from military research.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 8 years
Cabaker: Technology used in military weapons does not necessarily have to have its debut as a weapon. It can be used in other modes of technology. For instance MRI technology came about after being developed for military use. Why can't it be the opposite technology being focus towards civil uses? If we need it for military use it's still there.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
Cabaker he calls for an independent Defense Priorities Board. Sounds like he would be making it a priority to make sure our intelligence agencies are being efficient, productive, and utilized.
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
The only way a nuke helps us is if we know a general area that our enemies are (Pakistan), and we have a willingness to use those weapons to destroy that area, killing everyone in that area. I don't recomend that BTW..
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
Well maybe if we were allowed to use our intelligence agencies to their fullest extent we could prevent things like that.
raciccarone raciccarone 8 years
Our enemies used 19 cent box cutters and all our defense technology couldn't stop that. So tell me what nuclear warheads are going to do?
Jillness Jillness 8 years
Pop! :rotfl: There must be something in the air.
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