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Golden Boy! Phelps Wins 8th Gold Medal; Breaks Tie With Spitz

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Golden Boy! Phelps Wins 8th Gold Medal; Breaks Tie With Spitz It took a team to make him the grandest of Olympic champions. And one last big push from Phelps himself. Going hard right to the end of a mesmerizing nine days in Beijing, Phelps helped the Americans come from behind Sunday in a race they've never lost at the Olympics, cheering from the deck as Jason Lezak brought it home for a world record in the 400-meter medley relay. It was Phelps' history-making eighth gold medal of these games. "Everything was accomplished," he said. "I will have the medals forever."

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Jazz-Z Jazz-Z 7 years
Correction: On my comment 30 above the poster I was quoting forgot to close quotes after "...USA swimmers" the rest of the quote was the poster's opinion, not the broadcasters.
Jazz-Z Jazz-Z 7 years
Correction: On my comment 30 above the poster I was quoting forgot to close quotes after "...USA swimmers" the rest of the quote was the poster's opinion, not the broadcasters.
amybdk amybdk 7 years
Speaking of natural build... Did anyone see the Women's Marathon? I was really surprised to see that China placed 3rd and 4th! Their legs, compared to many of the other contenders, were super short! I am impressed with them. I realize that endurance is a HUGE part of marathons.... but I had assumed that body-type played a roll. Certainly it does, but not necessarily as large a roll as I previously thought.
amybdk amybdk 7 years
Speaking of natural build... Did anyone see the Women's Marathon? I was really surprised to see that China placed 3rd and 4th! Their legs, compared to many of the other contenders, were super short! I am impressed with them. I realize that endurance is a HUGE part of marathons.... but I had assumed that body-type played a roll. Certainly it does, but not necessarily as large a roll as I previously thought.
Jazz-Z Jazz-Z 7 years
Congratulations Mich!! :highfive: You're the best!Thanks again GS...you're always watching my back. :hug:lilkimbo I read on another site: "...on the Olympic broadcast one of the announcers brought up that many foreign swimmers think Natalie Coughlin is easily the most talented of all Team USA swimmers. Is that a slight against Coughlin for not dominating all of her events because she doesn't work hard enough? Is it putting down other swimmers that might not be as talented by just getting by on determination? ... Sports like track and swimming have quantifiable results we can use to compare athletes, having to go into the abstract and compare "natural talent" just seems unnecessary..."I wonder how "natural talent" is defined. Is it a person who doesn't have the perfect body type yet still wins medals based on talent? Or someone who, for example, would naturally swim sideways after the turn to obtain an edge without thinking.
Jazz-Z Jazz-Z 7 years
Congratulations Mich!! :highfive: You're the best! Thanks again GS...you're always watching my back. :hug: lilkimbo I read on another site: "...on the Olympic broadcast one of the announcers brought up that many foreign swimmers think Natalie Coughlin is easily the most talented of all Team USA swimmers. Is that a slight against Coughlin for not dominating all of her events because she doesn't work hard enough? Is it putting down other swimmers that might not be as talented by just getting by on determination? ... Sports like track and swimming have quantifiable results we can use to compare athletes, having to go into the abstract and compare "natural talent" just seems unnecessary..." I wonder how "natural talent" is defined. Is it a person who doesn't have the perfect body type yet still wins medals based on talent? Or someone who, for example, would naturally swim sideways after the turn to obtain an edge without thinking.
popgoestheworld popgoestheworld 7 years
hey lilkimbo - I was responding to the first comment. I agree w/ what you wrote.I honestly just felt it kind of odd to imply that how he was built somehow takes away from the accomplishment!As for the natural talent comment about Natalie Coughlin, I hadn't heard that. Natural talent is an amazing thing to watch. I had a boyfriend once who was the most naturally talented runner I had ever seen. And actually his body type was NOT that of a distance runner. He was like 40 pounds overweight, and he'd totally piss off all these super-thin fit runners by kicking their ass despite him being like, twice their size. In his case, a "better" body type would have definitely helped him out!
popgoestheworld popgoestheworld 7 years
hey lilkimbo - I was responding to the first comment. I agree w/ what you wrote. I honestly just felt it kind of odd to imply that how he was built somehow takes away from the accomplishment! As for the natural talent comment about Natalie Coughlin, I hadn't heard that. Natural talent is an amazing thing to watch. I had a boyfriend once who was the most naturally talented runner I had ever seen. And actually his body type was NOT that of a distance runner. He was like 40 pounds overweight, and he'd totally piss off all these super-thin fit runners by kicking their ass despite him being like, twice their size. In his case, a "better" body type would have definitely helped him out!
lilkimbo lilkimbo 7 years
I definitely wasn't saying it was. (Not that you are saying I am, pop, I just wanted to clarify.)
popgoestheworld popgoestheworld 7 years
Of course body type gives an advantage, as does natural innate ability. This is true in many sports. I don't think that takes anything away from what he did. It's like saying that Lance Armstrong's huge lung capacity makes his Tour wins less worthy.I, too, am a little sick of hearing about him. But he earned his medals with hard work. A body type isn't sufficient to win 8 olympic golds.
popgoestheworld popgoestheworld 7 years
Of course body type gives an advantage, as does natural innate ability. This is true in many sports. I don't think that takes anything away from what he did. It's like saying that Lance Armstrong's huge lung capacity makes his Tour wins less worthy. I, too, am a little sick of hearing about him. But he earned his medals with hard work. A body type isn't sufficient to win 8 olympic golds.
Kelliegrl Kelliegrl 7 years
Cheering for Michael all the way!
lilkimbo lilkimbo 7 years
Congrats, Mich! And Jazz, while I am impressed with Phelps, I do understand what you are saying about body type. I have read multiple articles emphasizing how his long torso and short (for his height) legs give him the perfect body type to be a swimmer. Of course, as someone else mentioned, all successful athletes are that way due to a combination of natural ability and hard work. Interestingly, I have heard many times that Natalie Coughlin is actually the person on the U.S. swim team with the most natural talent, even more than Phelps. Has anyone else heard anything about that?
lilkimbo lilkimbo 7 years
Congrats, Mich!And Jazz, while I am impressed with Phelps, I do understand what you are saying about body type. I have read multiple articles emphasizing how his long torso and short (for his height) legs give him the perfect body type to be a swimmer. Of course, as someone else mentioned, all successful athletes are that way due to a combination of natural ability and hard work.Interestingly, I have heard many times that Natalie Coughlin is actually the person on the U.S. swim team with the most <i>natural</i> talent, even more than Phelps. Has anyone else heard anything about that?
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
Way to go Mich!!:cheer:
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
Way to go Mich!! :cheer:
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
Woo hoo mich! And fuzzles, chill, Jazz can say whatever the hell she wants to say! That's the beauty of a free country.
Michelann Michelann 7 years
Well shoot, most of us have never been in politics, so I guess we should all stop arguing.Oh, by the way, I just hit Diamond! Yay.
Michelann Michelann 7 years
Well shoot, most of us have never been in politics, so I guess we should all stop arguing. Oh, by the way, I just hit Diamond! Yay.
fuzzles fuzzles 7 years
Once again, if you have never been in the water as a competitive swimmer, what is your platform? Convince me. Good night.
Jazz-Z Jazz-Z 7 years
fuzzles, I think I will continue to comment on anything I like, and obviously that goes if I think someone who is 6'4" might have an advantage over someone who is 6' in a swimming competition.And, you are the one who is in attack mode.Thanks Michelin. :)
Jazz-Z Jazz-Z 7 years
fuzzles, I think I will continue to comment on anything I like, and obviously that goes if I think someone who is 6'4" might have an advantage over someone who is 6' in a swimming competition. And, you are the one who is in attack mode. Thanks Michelin. :)
Michelann Michelann 7 years
Fuzzles, she's just saying her opinion. I wouldn't really call it "attacking". None of us claim to be swimming experts :)
fuzzles fuzzles 7 years
If you don't follow the circuit, consider not attacking it.
Jazz-Z Jazz-Z 7 years
I guess we can all learn from him. The passion you describe is certainly a passion to live by. I obviously don't follow the swimming circuit, that is why I opened discussion...to be enlightened.
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