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Chicagomarie Chicagomarie 6 years
I think the idea is that the average woman is not represented in the media. 99% of what we see is one body type: very tall and very thin. and while same women do look like that naturally, many more do not. Seeing women that are healthily, whatever their size, is what we need more of. That mean those who are 2's, 6's, 8's, 16s and everything else. I like that Glamour used a larger healthy woman and hope they continue that trend and showcase many types of women (and not just in the "10 ways to hide your flaws" articles.)for the record I am a size 2, just in case any haters what to call me a thin-bashing fat girl. I am just a woman who wants to see every type of woman (size, height, skin color etc) shown in media as beautiful.
Chicagomarie Chicagomarie 6 years
I think the idea is that the average woman is not represented in the media. 99% of what we see is one body type: very tall and very thin. and while same women do look like that naturally, many more do not. Seeing women that are healthily, whatever their size, is what we need more of. That mean those who are 2's, 6's, 8's, 16s and everything else. I like that Glamour used a larger healthy woman and hope they continue that trend and showcase many types of women (and not just in the "10 ways to hide your flaws" articles.) for the record I am a size 2, just in case any haters what to call me a thin-bashing fat girl. I am just a woman who wants to see every type of woman (size, height, skin color etc) shown in media as beautiful.
TidalWave TidalWave 6 years
I am so frustrated by the Glamour article. I would much rather see a thin model who is not airbrushed and photoshopped be called "real" than a plus-size model who had some digitizing done (regardless of how minor).
Quanni-E Quanni-E 6 years
OK, I'm overweight, but not biased. I believe there are things such as too big and too thin. Neither are healthy. If you are skin and bones or big as a house, please know that is not healthy. I know you have your preferences and I know there are conditions, but a lot of the time it' not. Just be healthy. That's the key thing. If you are healthy, then you will be the right weight. I can't say what that is because people are different. Sorry to ramble, but I had to give my 2 cents.
dikke-kus dikke-kus 6 years
SReneeC i was curious what you said. I used to hire models for a living. And they all had babies. Usually they were pretty young too.They whipped themselves back into shape in under two months. Those girls have kids just the same. Often though they will not model bathing suits after that. Its understandable. Some do and then some don't just depending. As far as the companies standards for the models, they had to be a healthy weight. I sent back several models because they were too thin for the clothes. A plus size had to be a tall 10, or tall 12. Anyone size 14 was too much plus for the advertising. Anyway this model looks good I think. In my job, I would see them losing too much, and then the shirts and dresses would be like sacks hanging on them. I would tell them to gain five pounds and come back. Hopefully that sent them a message that healthy is important even in their field.
dikke-kus dikke-kus 6 years
SReneeC i was curious what you said. I used to hire models for a living. And they all had babies. Usually they were pretty young too. They whipped themselves back into shape in under two months. Those girls have kids just the same. Often though they will not model bathing suits after that. Its understandable. Some do and then some don't just depending. As far as the companies standards for the models, they had to be a healthy weight. I sent back several models because they were too thin for the clothes. A plus size had to be a tall 10, or tall 12. Anyone size 14 was too much plus for the advertising. Anyway this model looks good I think. In my job, I would see them losing too much, and then the shirts and dresses would be like sacks hanging on them. I would tell them to gain five pounds and come back. Hopefully that sent them a message that healthy is important even in their field.
Love-and-Sex Love-and-Sex 6 years
I agree completely DeviousMuse. And thanks to everyone who (sorry, groan) weighed in.
vmyra57 vmyra57 6 years
In my opinion I think it is unhealthy being too skinny or too fat. Every woman should be at a healthy weight according to her height and body figure. For example if you are curvy, that's is great but you can not be curvy with a huge belly hanging. I'm pretty sure that is not healthy for anyone. I think a normal weight should be what your doctor recommends. Especially if you have a family history of heart disease, diabetes, and so forth. I believe in "everything in moderation."
DeviousMuse DeviousMuse 6 years
I've been reading pages and pages of comments on this image (from multiple sources), and every time, it comes down to "real" (fat) women vs. "fake" (skinny) women arguing and putting each other down.This really saddens me. We, as women, should really be about helping each other - not fat shaming or hating on "skinny bitches" - all it does is teach our daughters that it is an acceptable form of communication between females. We should be supportive, encouraging and prove that "real women" come in all shapes and sizes, and all, in their own way, are BEAUTIFUL and LOVED.However, I will say that the women in most magazines are not REAL women in the literal sense. They have been photoshopped and polished and perfected in a way that they are no longer women, but images - two-dimensional and fake in the way that the person does not exist in the real world.
DeviousMuse DeviousMuse 6 years
I've been reading pages and pages of comments on this image (from multiple sources), and every time, it comes down to "real" (fat) women vs. "fake" (skinny) women arguing and putting each other down. This really saddens me. We, as women, should really be about helping each other - not fat shaming or hating on "skinny bitches" - all it does is teach our daughters that it is an acceptable form of communication between females. We should be supportive, encouraging and prove that "real women" come in all shapes and sizes, and all, in their own way, are BEAUTIFUL and LOVED. However, I will say that the women in most magazines are not REAL women in the literal sense. They have been photoshopped and polished and perfected in a way that they are no longer women, but images - two-dimensional and fake in the way that the person does not exist in the real world.
Symphonee Symphonee 6 years
Skinny people on a high horse? The best thing that women can do for each other is to keep their mouths shut concerning each others' appearances especially, if they can't take any type of criticism.I am a slim AA woman and believe me, I got it dang near everyday from strangers and family alike. Generally, AA culture used to accept average sized curvy woman and hold women to that standard. I have always been slim and it has been seen as damn near a disease in my family. I have tried overeating, not exercising, and unhealthy eating to pack on the pounds. A few years ago, this skinny body gave birth to a completely healthy boy and I accepted that if my body was good enough to hold and nourish a child, then screw the media and everyone else, it was good enough for me. I always gave as good as I got when I was taunted as a child but after that I stopped for the most part because I do not have to justify my body size and shape for ANYONE. Please ladies, every time we all sit here and fuss about this and pick at each other, it takes precious moments away from learning to love yourself for the good parts of you and starting to improve the bad. I personally don't think that most women are honest about their health and the fact that the outside most often mirrors the inside (health wise) but it is none of my business to tell them unless they ask my opinion. This is a forum here for us to discuss things but so many people take things as a personal attack.
Symphonee Symphonee 6 years
Skinny people on a high horse? The best thing that women can do for each other is to keep their mouths shut concerning each others' appearances especially, if they can't take any type of criticism. I am a slim AA woman and believe me, I got it dang near everyday from strangers and family alike. Generally, AA culture used to accept average sized curvy woman and hold women to that standard. I have always been slim and it has been seen as damn near a disease in my family. I have tried overeating, not exercising, and unhealthy eating to pack on the pounds. A few years ago, this skinny body gave birth to a completely healthy boy and I accepted that if my body was good enough to hold and nourish a child, then screw the media and everyone else, it was good enough for me. I always gave as good as I got when I was taunted as a child but after that I stopped for the most part because I do not have to justify my body size and shape for ANYONE. Please ladies, every time we all sit here and fuss about this and pick at each other, it takes precious moments away from learning to love yourself for the good parts of you and starting to improve the bad. I personally don't think that most women are honest about their health and the fact that the outside most often mirrors the inside (health wise) but it is none of my business to tell them unless they ask my opinion. This is a forum here for us to discuss things but so many people take things as a personal attack.
dikke-kus dikke-kus 6 years
She looks fine. Medium build. She looks very tall and big boned. Kinda normal. GlowingMoon, her stomach is from pregnancy. I guarantee it. You only see that when your sitting down. I have it too. When you stand up though, you don't see it anymore. I have it even though I weigh 120 lbs now. It extra skin from my pregnancy. I could go through major surgery and fix it., (Not everyone gets that, but a lot of women do.) If you want it fixed it costs around 6,000. Its called an abdominoplasty. In France if you have three kids you get the surgery for free. Very common surgery but you have to have time and money on your hands. Plus you are not supposed to get it fixed until your done with kids. She might be planning on another baby. I think it's nice to see it actually. I've been both thin and fat so I have run into the whole gammit of reactions, attitudes and conversations. I also used to hire models both thin, and plus sized. Advertising will never really promote plus size, but I think it can be depressing to look at Victoria Secret catalogs. I wish they had one plus size or normal size once in a while. I am lucky to be petite, but for the most part I work my but off for that. I really don't feel sorry for the overweight crowd. At the same time I've learned to keep my mouth tight lipped over the subject. I have a friends who like to eat, and it's OK. As long as their happy then live and let live.
richkidblues richkidblues 6 years
I think its beautiful. Women like to see girls like this in magazines because the confidence she is radiating makes other women feel like its ok to have a belly. Maybe we should all start accepting one anothers "flaws" as beautiful. She's not overweight, she's not fat, she has a belly. Maybe she's had 3 children. We dont know that. Why don't we stop judging other women and think about how each and everyone of us has dealt with some kind of insecurity involving our bodies. I find it repulsive that women still feel the urge to put down other women. Is it jealousy? Is it the need to put down that woman because she has a belly, does that make you feel better? Its tiring. It really doesnt matter if someones 100lbs or 250lbs, there is always something to find beautiful about them. As for the obesity epidemic that is going on in the US, people make poor choices; thats their issues. If you are not overweight and preaching about the obesity problem, its not you're issue. Just live your life to the best you can.
janeaustenrules janeaustenrules 6 years
There was an article in our local newspaper this morning that I found interesting given the comments on this thread. Here are the highlights: Some children as young as 10 years old are unhappy with their bodies, largely because of their experiences at home and at school, but also because of a heightened awareness of body image through the media, suggests a new Canadian study published Wednesday in the journal BMC Public Health. According to the findings by Harvard University and University of Alberta researchers, 7.3 per cent of girls and 7.8 per cent of boys were unhappy with what they saw in the mirror each morning. Lead researcher Dr. Bryn Austin said she's concerned that any children at that age are reporting bad body images. "The main concern with body dissatisfaction is it increases children's ability to develop an eating disorder and can be linked with poor nutrition and an increase in unhealthy weight gain later in adult life," said Austin. She noted a well-established relationship between poor body satisfaction and an increase in disorders such as vomiting, fasting and the use of laxatives and diet pills for weight control. The report found girls were happiest when thinnest, while the boys were unhappy when they were too skinny or too fat. Researchers said this suggests even young children are aware of cultural ideals for males to be both muscular and lean, while females are often shown in media as being more beautiful if they are thin. "We don't know all the reasons why children feel bad about their bodies, but we do know being bullied or teased makes them feel worse," said Austin. "That may happen at home or at school and children are exposed to media images and talk among peers -- so that can be very critical and there is a great deal of stigma." The problem with this, say researchers, is children, even indirectly, are putting too much emphasis on weight instead of focusing on healthy behaviour, which includes eating right and getting exercise.
janeaustenrules janeaustenrules 6 years
There was an article in our local newspaper this morning that I found interesting given the comments on this thread.Here are the highlights:Some children as young as 10 years old are unhappy with their bodies, largely because of their experiences at home and at school, but also because of a heightened awareness of body image through the media, suggests a new Canadian study published Wednesday in the journal BMC Public Health.According to the findings by Harvard University and University of Alberta researchers, 7.3 per cent of girls and 7.8 per cent of boys were unhappy with what they saw in the mirror each morning. Lead researcher Dr. Bryn Austin said she's concerned that any children at that age are reporting bad body images."The main concern with body dissatisfaction is it increases children's ability to develop an eating disorder and can be linked with poor nutrition and an increase in unhealthy weight gain later in adult life," said Austin.She noted a well-established relationship between poor body satisfaction and an increase in disorders such as vomiting, fasting and the use of laxatives and diet pills for weight control.The report found girls were happiest when thinnest, while the boys were unhappy when they were too skinny or too fat. Researchers said this suggests even young children are aware of cultural ideals for males to be both muscular and lean, while females are often shown in media as being more beautiful if they are thin."We don't know all the reasons why children feel bad about their bodies, but we do know being bullied or teased makes them feel worse," said Austin. "That may happen at home or at school and children are exposed to media images and talk among peers -- so that can be very critical and there is a great deal of stigma."The problem with this, say researchers, is children, even indirectly, are putting too much emphasis on weight instead of focusing on healthy behaviour, which includes eating right and getting exercise.
candace87 candace87 6 years
also, with the ads showing overweight/obese women as "REAL" .. it promotes obesity and that is just as if not MORE unhealthy than being too thin! I hate the commercials and ads that show some woman who is clearly overweight and call her a "real" woman. no wonder the U.S.A. has such a high obesity rate.
candace87 candace87 6 years
haven't read all of the comments but i agree who said that the stomach is gross! its so.. floppy looking. Yes, i get it, theyre showing that "real" people aren't perfect but.. ick. i'd really rather not see that floppy ponch.
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