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Headline: House Republicans Walk Out in Protest

House Republicans staged a walkout protest today over Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic leadership's decision to let an act that expands the government’s surveillance powers expire.

Republican leader John Boehner (R-OH) said that the decision of the House to debate a contempt resolution involving former White House officials, instead of beginning work on the Protect America Act, jeopardizes national security. The Act passed in the Senate earlier this week.

Pelosi and the Democratic leadership believe there isn’t enough time to reconcile the differences between the Senate and House versions of the act. Boehner said the House Republicans would stay in Washington as long as necessary to finish the bill.

Was the walkout justified? Does this call attention to the bill in a productive way? Would you have walked out, too?

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Cassandra57 Cassandra57 8 years
Pelosi needs to get her priorities straight. There's no way a relatively limited item like this contempt resolution is more important than *national security*. If they're opposed to the way the Protect America Act is structured, they should have the courage to criticize it directly, not just defer discussion. Congressional Dems are just obsessed with getting as many Republicans out of Washington as possible, and I think their agendas are driven 100% by that. MSucre "Democrats were elected into power and have the right to make decisions as they see fit. The Republicans have lost power in the House and are using non-traditional means to undercut the deserved and just power excercised by the democrats who allowed the bill to expire." I don't completely disagree, but I believe national politicians could keep the best interests of their constituents in mind. If "non-traditional" means are useful, then use them. Didn't the Dems stage an all-night "debate" just last summer? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/18/AR2007071800482.html I'm more offended by that, since it was purely obstructionist and opposed to the majority's vote against a measure to set a deadline for withdrawal from Iraq. Too many baby boomers are knee-jerk anti-war types. I think it reminds them of their lost youth. I think the intelligence that got us into Iraq was flawed, but I believe we are living in a different world, and we have to be prepared to strenuously defend ourselves.
LuciLu LuciLu 8 years
thank you for that Jillness, I saw the exact same Keith Olberman segment.
JovianSkies JovianSkies 8 years
"Against unreasonable searches and seizures" is where they found the loop in the 4th amendment. Therefore, because our government considers screening calls reasonable because of the threat of terrorism, the 4th amendment was upheld (in their eyes, at least).
JovianSkies JovianSkies 8 years
"Against unreasonable searches and seizures" is where they found the loop in the 4th amendment. Therefore, because our government considers screening calls reasonable because of the threat of terrorism, the 4th amendment was upheld (in their eyes, at least).
Jillness Jillness 8 years
"And I'm sorry but could someone point out to me the people who were tapped who didn't deserve to be?" This is where American citizens are uninformed. On Keith Oberman they had an AT&T employee who personally hooked up the machines that will DUPLICATE AND RECORD EVERY SINGLE AT&T PHONE CALL. Every. Single. Call. That is a waste of resources. That completely violates the laws regarding unlawful search and seisure. Bill Of Rights: 4th AmendmentThe right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
"And I'm sorry but could someone point out to me the people who were tapped who didn't deserve to be?" This is where American citizens are uninformed. On Keith Oberman they had an AT&T employee who personally hooked up the machines that will DUPLICATE AND RECORD EVERY SINGLE AT&T PHONE CALL. Every. Single. Call. That is a waste of resources. That completely violates the laws regarding unlawful search and seisure. Bill Of Rights: 4th Amendment The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
The whole reason the Dems don't want to pass this bill is because the surge is working and things are looking up in a big way and they are scared to DEATH that the war will go well and what the Bush admin. has done are the right choices. They are so invested in this war failing that they will do everything they can to make sure that happens.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
Amen SMP! A reporter asked her point blank the other day what her opinion was on the FACT that the troop surge has been made a HUGE difference and been very successful and she had the GALL to boldly lie and say that its been waste and there have been no improvements. She is disgusting. She got elected as a far left wolf in moderate sheeps clothing. I'm glad she's showing her true colors.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
Amen SMP!A reporter asked her point blank the other day what her opinion was on the FACT that the troop surge has been made a HUGE difference and been very successful and she had the GALL to boldly lie and say that its been waste and there have been no improvements.She is disgusting. She got elected as a far left wolf in moderate sheeps clothing. I'm glad she's showing her true colors.
smp7328 smp7328 8 years
Nancy Pelosi and her cronies are all about taking down the last vestiges of the Bush White House (past and present) without actually impeaching the President. This walkout by the House Republicans was necessary to show that Congress need to stop wasting time on ridiculous crap and get back to the business of protecting America. Nancy Pelosi has been one of the most ineffective Speakers of the House and to say that "there won't be enough time" to reconcile both the senate and house bills is a load of crap. She is the one who wanted to extend the work week in Congress to 5 days and now congress is working even less than than the 4 they were working before. I am sick and tired of hearing her crap. She needs to suck it up and turn the focus in this country back to protecting our people and not worrying about whether or not the Democrats have put the final screws to George W. Bush.
mymellowman mymellowman 8 years
Yeah, Amtrak was close to striking in NYC and that would have shut down Penn Station, keeping people from being able to get to work and hurting other business. The writers went on strike and that meant every Blue Collar worker in the entertainment industry was laid off until they decided they would work again.
mymellowman mymellowman 8 years
Yeah, Amtrak was close to striking in NYC and that would have shut down Penn Station, keeping people from being able to get to work and hurting other business.The writers went on strike and that meant every Blue Collar worker in the entertainment industry was laid off until they decided they would work again.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
I dunno, when the airline workers went on strike in the 80s, i'd say that was a pretty big effect. :)
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
I dunno, when the airline workers went on strike in the 80s, i'd say that was a pretty big effect.:)
omilawd omilawd 8 years
It's immature, because politicians' decisions affect all of America and, oftentimes, the world. It looks like nothing else is a concern to them other than getting their way (regardless of which party they belong to. If the democrats did the same thing, I'd still feel the same way). And it's the same way when a union worker who walks out, but their decisions usually don't have as big affect as a politician's decision does.
omilawd omilawd 8 years
It's immature, because politicians' decisions affect all of America and, oftentimes, the world. It looks like nothing else is a concern to them other than getting their way (regardless of which party they belong to. If the democrats did the same thing, I'd still feel the same way).And it's the same way when a union worker who walks out, but their decisions usually don't have as big affect as a politician's decision does.
cine_lover cine_lover 8 years
"btw, how come when republicans stage a walk out its immature and a waste of time, but if a union does it, well then its ok.."I wonder the samething myself cabaker :ponder:
cine_lover cine_lover 8 years
"btw, how come when republicans stage a walk out its immature and a waste of time, but if a union does it, well then its ok.." I wonder the samething myself cabaker :ponder:
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
btw, how come when republicans stage a walk out its immature and a waste of time, but if a union does it, well then its ok..
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
Not any one of us on here can say for sure that this bill hasn't saved lives. Not any one of us. In fact, I think it would be very naive to think this bill hasn't done any good. Theres no telling, because its classified, how many lives have been saved because of having taps on the right people. And I'm sorry but could someone point out to me the people who were tapped who didn't deserve to be? Anyone...? No, there have been no claims of anyone being tapped who was completely innocent of any suspicion. I think the people who throw the argument of "oh we could all be tapped and have no civil liberties!" are giving the gov't way too much credit. #1 - They don't have the resources to waste on tapping people who aren't suspicious. #2 - Can you imagine the paperwork?! There is NO WAY all that paper pushing would get done in time. This bill should be extended and if it's not, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if attacks happen more often.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
Not any one of us on here can say for sure that this bill hasn't saved lives. Not any one of us. In fact, I think it would be very naive to think this bill hasn't done any good. Theres no telling, because its classified, how many lives have been saved because of having taps on the right people.And I'm sorry but could someone point out to me the people who were tapped who didn't deserve to be? Anyone...? No, there have been no claims of anyone being tapped who was completely innocent of any suspicion.I think the people who throw the argument of "oh we could all be tapped and have no civil liberties!" are giving the gov't way too much credit. #1 - They don't have the resources to waste on tapping people who aren't suspicious. #2 - Can you imagine the paperwork?! There is NO WAY all that paper pushing would get done in time.This bill should be extended and if it's not, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if attacks happen more often.
MarinerMandy MarinerMandy 8 years
The Republicans do want small government. They just want it to be small enough to fit into every aspect of our personal lives, so we can carry government around with us like a cell phone.The President touts democracy in developing countries, but that sentiment apparently does not extend here. These reactionary bills do not stand up to terrorists. They only serve to cut back on the civil liberties that we value and erode the freedoms that we have. The terrorists don't need to plan any more attacks to win, our government seems set on taking care of that for them.
MarinerMandy MarinerMandy 8 years
The Republicans do want small government. They just want it to be small enough to fit into every aspect of our personal lives, so we can carry government around with us like a cell phone. The President touts democracy in developing countries, but that sentiment apparently does not extend here. These reactionary bills do not stand up to terrorists. They only serve to cut back on the civil liberties that we value and erode the freedoms that we have. The terrorists don't need to plan any more attacks to win, our government seems set on taking care of that for them.
LuciLu LuciLu 8 years
my thoughts exactly, city girl!
JovianSkies JovianSkies 8 years
In a way, I can't be angry with the Republicans, because I think they're rather undermined and underestimated. By walking out, at least they're speaking their opinions loudly, which is what they should always practice, in my opinion. On the other hand, it probably wasn't the most productive route, and the Democrats aren't willing to give the bill time for controversy.
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