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Hillary Advisor Says Edwards "Cheated" Her Out of Nomination

Hillary Advisor Says Edwards "Cheated" Her Out of Nomination

Is Hillary having a huge case of dé ja vu? The last time a popular Southern politician got caught fooling around and wrecked her life, it was admittedly closer to home — but this time it may have cost her a ticket back to that very White House. Top Clinton Aide Howard Wolfson is alleging that fancy philanderer John Edwards done Hillary wrong — and worse — cost her the nomination.

Wolfson says that had the Edwards story broken last Fall when the Enquirer first started digging into it, "I believe we would have won Iowa, and Clinton today would therefore have been the nominee." Clinton finished a squeaker third behind Edwards, with Obama getting a huge boost from having beat two more well-known candidates. Without Edwards, splitting the share, Clinton would have won Iowa the course would have been different.

After recovering from the brutal campaign and laying low, Clinton is back in the news in a cavalcade of stories. To see what else is going on,

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Clinton has clinched a cushy speech timeslot at the convention this month — the very convention where her supporters are thought to be making one last push to get her on the ballot in one way or another. One group called PUMA (Party Unity My Ass) claim that Hillary could still be the nominee if some Obama delegates could be persuaded to swap teams. Their pick is still saddled with debt from the fight and she may forgo repaying herself and just move on.

Should Clinton supporters follow that lead? Is the Edwards scandal delay responsible for Hillary's downfall?

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kaitlynhanna kaitlynhanna 7 years
This is politics. No one can predict when stories are going to break, and the Hillary Camp shouldn't be so bitter about Edwards' splitting the vote in the early primaries. The way that American Politics is run is conducive to competition, and I believe that, despite his personal life, Edwards ran a very good campaign. I think it was a bad decision of Hillary's to allow her aide to speak out like this, as it does reflect poorly on her.
Jillness Jillness 7 years
"It sounds like someone is trying to play head games with the voting public again. "Good point.
Jillness Jillness 7 years
"It sounds like someone is trying to play head games with the voting public again. " Good point.
Noggy Noggy 7 years
The Republicans benefit if they can divide the Democratic party and its no secret that is what they have been trying to do since the beginning. There is something "fishy" about how all this stuff about the Edwards affair and Clinton's key advisor suggesting they make Obama look unAmerican, has just now come up when we have had months since the primaries ended. It sounds like someone is trying to play head games with the voting public again. Or maybe it was just a slow news day and they decided to pull something out of the hat. But I doubt it.Bottom line...Clinton supporters have to recognize that she ran a poor campaign due to poor planning, poor fiscal oversight and just plain overconfidence. They grossly underestimated the competition. Irregardless if you agree with Obama's politics, he put together one of the most formidable grassroots efforts ever seen in this country. He utilized the internet, which was genius on his part. He didn't wait for voters to come to him, he went out and recruited them. In the face of scathing slander he has remain the picture of stability. The world at large has been watching this Shakespearan election process take place on the internet and through the media...and its obvious they have assigned him the role of hero and sit entralled with the rest of us as we watch those that would try to defeat him fall on their own swords.Who will be his choice for VP? It would never have been Edwards. More Hollywood than Washington, he doesn't seem to resonate with the average voter. Hillary...formidable opponent to point that she burnt all the bridges to the VP slot when she waited to concede the nomination. It only served to divide the party more. Although many think Richardson would carry the Hispanic voters, the murmurings in the meeting places say they feel he has sold them out. Joe Biden...sharp as tack, but he has enemies and is part of the old core. Kaine...I don't think outside of Virginia he carries enough weight. Its like...who is he? There is always Sam Nunn and that female governor that nobody really knows. But that would be a token choice for the female vote. It would be a major coup on the Republican party if he asked Chuck Hagel to be his VP. And Hagel has already indicated he would cross party lines and accept. He is brilliant on foreign policy and Democrats don't have issue with him because he is usually on target. Would other Dems feel slighted...who knows??? Either way...Clinton is not on the ticket and it remains to be seen whether she is ready to go all out for the party or hold back for herself. I know I will be watching with candid interest.
Noggy Noggy 7 years
The Republicans benefit if they can divide the Democratic party and its no secret that is what they have been trying to do since the beginning. There is something "fishy" about how all this stuff about the Edwards affair and Clinton's key advisor suggesting they make Obama look unAmerican, has just now come up when we have had months since the primaries ended. It sounds like someone is trying to play head games with the voting public again. Or maybe it was just a slow news day and they decided to pull something out of the hat. But I doubt it. Bottom line...Clinton supporters have to recognize that she ran a poor campaign due to poor planning, poor fiscal oversight and just plain overconfidence. They grossly underestimated the competition. Irregardless if you agree with Obama's politics, he put together one of the most formidable grassroots efforts ever seen in this country. He utilized the internet, which was genius on his part. He didn't wait for voters to come to him, he went out and recruited them. In the face of scathing slander he has remain the picture of stability. The world at large has been watching this Shakespearan election process take place on the internet and through the media...and its obvious they have assigned him the role of hero and sit entralled with the rest of us as we watch those that would try to defeat him fall on their own swords. Who will be his choice for VP? It would never have been Edwards. More Hollywood than Washington, he doesn't seem to resonate with the average voter. Hillary...formidable opponent to point that she burnt all the bridges to the VP slot when she waited to concede the nomination. It only served to divide the party more. Although many think Richardson would carry the Hispanic voters, the murmurings in the meeting places say they feel he has sold them out. Joe Biden...sharp as tack, but he has enemies and is part of the old core. Kaine...I don't think outside of Virginia he carries enough weight. Its like...who is he? There is always Sam Nunn and that female governor that nobody really knows. But that would be a token choice for the female vote. It would be a major coup on the Republican party if he asked Chuck Hagel to be his VP. And Hagel has already indicated he would cross party lines and accept. He is brilliant on foreign policy and Democrats don't have issue with him because he is usually on target. Would other Dems feel slighted...who knows??? Either way...Clinton is not on the ticket and it remains to be seen whether she is ready to go all out for the party or hold back for herself. I know I will be watching with candid interest.
Jillness Jillness 7 years
"it would have raised the spector of her as a wronged wife again and that could have weakened her"That also could have helped her as well. "the world may never know..."
Jillness Jillness 7 years
"it would have raised the spector of her as a wronged wife again and that could have weakened her" That also could have helped her as well. "the world may never know..."
stephley stephley 7 years
Hillary might also have been hurt by spillover if the Edwards story had come out earlier - it would have raised the spector of her as a wronged wife again and that could have weakened her and made people feel they were tired of that part of the Clinton story.
Jillness Jillness 7 years
"I think the Clinton people have a good point."There were exit polls asking people who their 2nd choice was. The Edwards voters 2nd choice was Obama by a large margin. I just don't think there is any information to support the theory that Edwards cost her the nomination. It would have changed the game, but perhaps Obama would have simply won faster. I just don't think anyone can say logic points to Hillary winning Iowa if Edwards wasn't in the race. It just isn't supported by facts. Possible, but not probable.
Jillness Jillness 7 years
"I think the Clinton people have a good point." There were exit polls asking people who their 2nd choice was. The Edwards voters 2nd choice was Obama by a large margin. I just don't think there is any information to support the theory that Edwards cost her the nomination. It would have changed the game, but perhaps Obama would have simply won faster. I just don't think anyone can say logic points to Hillary winning Iowa if Edwards wasn't in the race. It just isn't supported by facts. Possible, but not probable.
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 7 years
:drinks:
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 7 years
:drinks:
Miaomiaochan Miaomiaochan 7 years
I was a Clinton supporter, so it was disappointing to see her lose, but the Clinton camp shouldn't have put her out as the presumptive Democratic candidate before the primary/caucus season had even begun! No one took Obama seriously, and that's a recipe for defeat. My dad had always said that her campaign manager should've been fired a long time ago...too late. I actually preferred Edwards to Hillary early this year, and held the opinion--all the way up until news of his affair broke--that he'd make a fine VP candidate. My dad thought that he'd be nominated for Attorney General if Obama wins the White House. Who'd want him, now that he's a known cheater, in any public office?
Miaomiaochan Miaomiaochan 7 years
I was a Clinton supporter, so it was disappointing to see her lose, but the Clinton camp shouldn't have put her out as the presumptive Democratic candidate before the primary/caucus season had even begun! No one took Obama seriously, and that's a recipe for defeat. My dad had always said that her campaign manager should've been fired a long time ago...too late.I actually preferred Edwards to Hillary early this year, and held the opinion--all the way up until news of his affair broke--that he'd make a fine VP candidate. My dad thought that he'd be nominated for Attorney General if Obama wins the White House. Who'd want him, now that he's a known cheater, in any public office?
janneth janneth 7 years
Sorry, I think the Clinton people have a good point. And I also think Edwards is still not telling the entire truth.
janneth janneth 7 years
Sorry, I think the Clinton people have a good point.And I also think Edwards is still not telling the entire truth.
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
Hillary should've been campaigning instead of running a coronation for the first 8 months.
Auntie-Coosa Auntie-Coosa 7 years
No, Edwards cheated himself out of politics.Hilary cheated herself out of the Democrat Nomination because she didn't take Barry Soetoro (that's on his official birth certificate) (Obama) seriously. I'm sure she thought that the Democrats would not elect such a "lightweight" candidate with no political history to show for his years in Illinois and Congress. Plus he did state that he was not going to run for the Presidency when he took his Senate seat. But he lied about that too.Edwards should have kept his pants sipped and Hilary should have come out blazing instead of trying to play catch up.
Auntie-Coosa Auntie-Coosa 7 years
No, Edwards cheated himself out of politics. Hilary cheated herself out of the Democrat Nomination because she didn't take Barry Soetoro (that's on his official birth certificate) (Obama) seriously. I'm sure she thought that the Democrats would not elect such a "lightweight" candidate with no political history to show for his years in Illinois and Congress. Plus he did state that he was not going to run for the Presidency when he took his Senate seat. But he lied about that too. Edwards should have kept his pants sipped and Hilary should have come out blazing instead of trying to play catch up.
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
I have no problem with that, as long as you have no problem with the drop kick across the driveway :innocent:
MartiniLush MartiniLush 7 years
Ok, so expect an unidentified, slightly confused brat to show up on your doorstep sometime tonight - that I will, of course, know <b>nothing</b> about!!! :innocent:
MartiniLush MartiniLush 7 years
Ok, so expect an unidentified, slightly confused brat to show up on your doorstep sometime tonight - that I will, of course, know nothing about!!! :innocent:
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
Well, line him up, and I'll put him through the uprights. I'm not running for office, so I can be a little more assertive when it comes to children. ;)
MartiniLush MartiniLush 7 years
UnDave, there IS this 4 y.o. at my son's preschool that would be a good candidate for that actually.... :ponder:
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
:rotfl: I understand.
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