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Is Hillary's Health-Care Mandate Polarizing?

Is Hillary's Health-Care Mandate Polarizing?

On ABC's This Week on Sunday, Hillary Clinton tackled the detail of the mandate function of her health-care plan: specifically, that under her proposal, health care is not optional. Barack Obama has drawn attention to this aspect of Hillary's plan, and she finally answered the question of how she would enforce the mandate. "I think there are a number of mechanisms" that are possible, including "going after people's wages, automatic enrollment."

Hillary went on to say that the cost of her health care will be a low, wage-proportionate amount. Paul Krugman wrote a great piece in the New York Times this week comparing Obama and Clinton's health-care plans, singling out this issue as their big policy difference. Will this detail from Clinton, reported after as "wage garnishing," scare off potential supporters? Is the idea of a mandate, the most controversial part of Hillary's plan?

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mlmoreno47 mlmoreno47 8 years
Personally, I don't think universal healthcare is the answer. In Canada the waitlist to get a doctor appointment is staggering. I have great insurance so maybe I'm not the demographic interested in this but I also happen to live in Southern California aka Mexico. There are so many illegal immigrant afforded the rights that citizens PAY FOR and I'm sick of it. Crime, traffic, school overcrowding. It's all too much and now to add this onto the list of my expenses and their advantages is just not fair. If the government will strictly regulate this than maybe I would more on board but if it goes the way of public schools and the DMV you can count me OUT!
Princesskitty22 Princesskitty22 8 years
Hm. That NYT article is interesting. I hadn't thought about it like that. Frankly I think there are so many people arguing both sides that until someone gets the nomination, it's not going to be settled.
Princesskitty22 Princesskitty22 8 years
Hm. That NYT article is interesting. I hadn't thought about it like that. Frankly I think there are so many people arguing both sides that until someone gets the nomination, it's not going to be settled.
Princesskitty22 Princesskitty22 8 years
I think universal healthcare is pretty expensive, period. And I'm not sure that this is a good idea, it's the one point that I disagree on, but I feel that as the general election nears, the mandate part might be taken out or the plan might be fleshed out a little bit. I don't know. I honestly don't know.
trésjolie1 trésjolie1 8 years
Yes I think people like the sound of universal health care but they don't really know how her plan would be executed, and how it would affect their lives. Say something happened in your life and suddenly for a few months you are really struggling to pay mortgage and your car needs a repair; they will still take hundreds of dollars(at least)it out of your paycheck. How on earth would you get that through congress? Universal = Mandatory. I don't even want it, and I'm a Democrat. Her campaign says that health care is her strong suit, but I beg to differ.
cine_lover cine_lover 8 years
I have had to go to the doctor and hospital without health care. I know the cost, but taking away my freedom is not an option.It is amazing to me that no one sees that garnishing ones wages and mandating health care is against the law and unconstitutional. She is trying to take away our freedom, and it is really sad to me that people want to allow it.
cine_lover cine_lover 8 years
I have had to go to the doctor and hospital without health care. I know the cost, but taking away my freedom is not an option. It is amazing to me that no one sees that garnishing ones wages and mandating health care is against the law and unconstitutional. She is trying to take away our freedom, and it is really sad to me that people want to allow it.
thatsmajor thatsmajor 8 years
Has anyone here ever been uninsured and HAD to go to the doctor/hospital??? I had to go to the doctor last year while uninsured and the visit alone cost me $300! With insurance, it was a $30 copay. Insane. Also, My bf's wisdom teeth got infected last year while he was uninsured. He now has $4,000 dollars in credit card debt due to his hospital and dentist visits. I support Hillary and her plan all the way. I think everyone should read Paul Krugman's article linked above. Great insight.
hotstuff hotstuff 8 years
Also, if we are going to have universal healthcare and if everyone working would be required to chip in shouldn't our salaries go way up? It would only make sense since that's all a part of our work package that companies wouldn't necessarily have to pay for anymore. That would at least help with the burden of it coming out of our pay.
hotstuff hotstuff 8 years
I saw a report just last night on the Massachusetts mandatory healthcare and it sounds CRAZY! If you don't pay into it they FORCE you to by fining you. The first year the fine is a couple hundred dollars and then the second year it's like over a thousand and keeps going up. How the hell can poor people afford that? If your broke you can't all of a sudden find all this money for fines to add on to your other bills!
Zahara-Pitt Zahara-Pitt 8 years
the real politics polls show that its a tie between mccain and obama.. McCain still doesn't have the backing of the core conservatives... :OY: to the question
Jillness Jillness 8 years
I agree Fab. I have seen 2 polls that show Obama would win against McCain, but Clinton wouldn't.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
I agree Fab. I have seen 2 polls that show Obama would win against McCain, but Clinton wouldn't.
Fab84 Fab84 8 years
Obama 2008
Fab84 Fab84 8 years
Obama 2008
Fab84 Fab84 8 years
How can we expect change when by electing someone who spent time in the white house before, voted for the war... and wants to mandate health care. I believe if you gets the vote, it will be a sad day for the democrats, as she wont stand a chance against someone like McCain.
indielove indielove 8 years
This woman is nuts, I do not believe that she's really thought this through. I really believe that she will say anything to win. I do not believe in her ideas of change and she's very polarizing in general. She will not bring this country together. If she wins the nomination, it won't be easy for her going up against McCain. So many people would rather vote for him rather than her.
katie_c katie_c 8 years
her healthcare plan is a major turnoff for me. i wasn't planning on voting for her period but that added to my reasons.
kiddylnd kiddylnd 8 years
Just to clarify my thoughts on this - since I don't know the full cost per taxpayer of this I can't say I do or don't support it. What I am saying is that I can see a % tax on wages that would benefit all. I pay social security - and NOT by choice. This right now goes to support others and not myself. When I get older the money I will get will come from the next generation. I sort of thought that this was how the tax would work as well. In time we may ALL need this benefit. I think that often times we think of how this will work or not for us now, forgetting that tides can change VERY quickly and your circumstance may put you in a position that you will need the health care benefit. Especially when you get older and have to find health insurance when you are no longer working. My current job does not offer insurance after retirement. At this point without knowing full details I don't support or or disagree with this but accept that this MAY be something that will benefit the whole and not just me.
kiddylnd kiddylnd 8 years
Just to clarify my thoughts on this - since I don't know the full cost per taxpayer of this I can't say I do or don't support it. What I am saying is that I can see a % tax on wages that would benefit all. I pay social security - and NOT by choice. This right now goes to support others and not myself. When I get older the money I will get will come from the next generation. I sort of thought that this was how the tax would work as well. In time we may ALL need this benefit. I think that often times we think of how this will work or not for us now, forgetting that tides can change VERY quickly and your circumstance may put you in a position that you will need the health care benefit. Especially when you get older and have to find health insurance when you are no longer working. My current job does not offer insurance after retirement. At this point without knowing full details I don't support or or disagree with this but accept that this MAY be something that will benefit the whole and not just me.
juju4 juju4 8 years
Yes, my co-worker is from Mass., and right out of college she was a waitress and was going to have to pay $400 a month for her mandated insurance. If she couldn't afford that $400 a month, then they were going to fine her, so she would be poorer than before she started and still wouldn't have insurance.She said she felt lucky that she moved away when she did, because she would not have been able to afford the insurance. It was almost as much as her rent!
juju4 juju4 8 years
Yes, my co-worker is from Mass., and right out of college she was a waitress and was going to have to pay $400 a month for her mandated insurance. If she couldn't afford that $400 a month, then they were going to fine her, so she would be poorer than before she started and still wouldn't have insurance. She said she felt lucky that she moved away when she did, because she would not have been able to afford the insurance. It was almost as much as her rent!
Jillness Jillness 8 years
Juju, didn't you say something about a co-worker who experienced the Massechusetts manditory system? Didn't a waitress have to pay $400 a month for her gov't insurance? Please explain fully...your post the other day was great.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
Juju, didn't you say something about a co-worker who experienced the Massechusetts manditory system? Didn't a waitress have to pay $400 a month for her gov't insurance? Please explain fully...your post the other day was great.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
1.) This policy will send moderates running for the hills, and ensure a Republican president. 2.) If they force you to have health insurance, and garish your wages to pay for it...what about the people who don't have jobs or wages to garnish? Illegal immigrants? 3.) I don't think that forcing another financial burden on the poor is a good idea. If they are forced to pay for it and can't afford it, the money will have to come from somewhere (their funds for energy bills, food, gas, etc.) 4.) Who does forced insurance benefit, besides the insurance companies? I understand garnishing wages if people have a bill they won't pay. But taking their money before they receive medical care is not necessary.
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