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Iowa's Citizens Tell Congressmen to Lay Off Immigration Raids

Iowa's Citizens Tell Congressmen to Lay Off Immigration Raids

About 1,000 Iowans marched in protest yesterday over working conditions at the same meatpacking plant in Iowa where an immigration raid this Spring that led to the arrest of almost 400 people. The incident has left local residents pleading with their congressmen to stop with the raids. This weekend residents told their representatives that the sweep damaged the small town more than it helped, and tore families apart.

The raid was the largest of its kind in US history, and the testimony over the weekend showed the huge emotional toll it took on the community. Those testifying both skewered immigration officials and Homeland Security for inhumane tactics, and leveled criticism at the plant for taking advantage of the workers.

At the end of the hearing, Rep. Gutierrez agreed, "This is wrong. We've taken men and women who want to work and made felons out of them." One local union official said the blame would be better placed with the owners who hired and took advantage of the workers rather than the illegal workers themselves, "the family that owns that place, they're the ones who should be prosecuted."

The mayor issued the definitive statement, and urged them to take the message back to Washington that raids don't work, "this raid did nothing for this community. It downgraded us substantially. It caused people to suffer, and it caused our reputation to suffer clear across the country."

Is he right? Do immigration raids do more harm than good?

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UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
I would never take advantage of you hunter. Please forgive me. :)
Lady-Boleyn Lady-Boleyn 8 years
Jude, he was just taking advantage of my youth! I feel soooooo used! :oops:
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
I hadn't heard about that Jill, but I see what you're saying. I think they should punish those who provide the immigrants with the fake/stolen social security numbers more severely, but (base on what you're saying), I'm not sure how they should punish those who use the fake/stolen numbers. I feel like punishing those who provide them would (hopefully) help curb the availability of the fake/stolen numbers, but who knows.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
Has anyone heard about the efforts to increase punishment for having stolen social security cards? Immigrant rights activists say that the people don't know that it belongs to someone else when they get it, they think they are just getting a number. Others say that identity theft is a very serious crime, and that they should serve time for using someone elses ss number. I am torn. I see both sides of the coin. I think identity theft is a REALLY big problem and will only increase as life becomes more online. However, I don't think that all immigrants understand whether they have a real or fake card.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
Has anyone heard about the efforts to increase punishment for having stolen social security cards? Immigrant rights activists say that the people don't know that it belongs to someone else when they get it, they think they are just getting a number. Others say that identity theft is a very serious crime, and that they should serve time for using someone elses ss number. I am torn. I see both sides of the coin. I think identity theft is a REALLY big problem and will only increase as life becomes more online. However, I don't think that all immigrants understand whether they have a real or fake card.
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
If you are really planning on sharing everything, then I am very lucky indeed. ;)
Jude-C Jude-C 8 years
"YOUNGEST"???? UD, you just better consider yourself lucky that hunter and I have agreed to share everything ;) Good night, y'all!
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
You are welcome. :)
Lady-Boleyn Lady-Boleyn 8 years
Thank you for admitting what I was sure was the truth about all men!
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
I'm a guy, I don't know the self-worth of most things... But I appreciate it. :)
Lady-Boleyn Lady-Boleyn 8 years
Clearly, you do not know the self worth of this gift!
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
Is that it? I was hoping for something more. ;) JK
Lady-Boleyn Lady-Boleyn 8 years
Undying love and affection?!
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
Now, what do i get for declaring you the winner?
Lady-Boleyn Lady-Boleyn 8 years
:rotfl: Nice recovery!
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
LOL - no, you win because you are the youngest. ;)
Lady-Boleyn Lady-Boleyn 8 years
Are you saying I win by default? :cry:
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
I don't know if Jude is still here. Alas, I will have to pick you then... ;)
Lady-Boleyn Lady-Boleyn 8 years
haha you will have to ask my beautiful counterpart :)
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
Hunter, I struggling with this. My choices are you or Jude? Well, can I pick both??
Lady-Boleyn Lady-Boleyn 8 years
I knew I was forgetting someone! ADAM LEVINE! He's on my list, and will be reflected on my photo album ;) I am still waiting for your choice UD!
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 8 years
Agreed ^^. You can't pick and choose which laws you obey. "Rep. Gutierrez agreed, "This is wrong. We've taken men and women who want to work and made felons out of them." Wrong rep. Guitierrez, they made felons of themselves.
bastylefilegirl bastylefilegirl 8 years
"This is a tough issue, since it's so emotionally charged. While I do think much more attention should be paid at the enforcement level to employers who use undocumented workers (especially in such numbers), I don't think that it's right to entirely absolve the workers (who are aware, one would assume, that they are breaking the law) or to suggest that only the employers and not the workers should be prosecuted. I can definitely sympathize with the families of the workers, but it seems to me that raids like this are inevitable. They're one of the few ways to send a strong message to both the employers and the workers that this is not tolerated." I totally agree Jude, I also think that stating a city is a safe haven for "undocumented immigrants" i.e. giving people a pass is a mistake is, and is being felt here in the San Francisco Bay area ( two people who were protected because the city is a safe haven committed murder and are now on nowhere to be found). Either we should change the law or continue to enforce it, there really shouldn't be a grey area. It it is illegal to be in this country without proper docs then any person contributing/participating in this offense should be charged and punished.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 8 years
Oh great, and now I have to go get some Krispy Kremes and the nearest one is like 30 miles away. Thanks guys. You know you can't talk about food in front of pregnant women. That's all we can think about. Oh, and had my doctors apt. today. All this throwing up I have been doing has made me lose 10 lbs. in under two weeks. Ugh.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 8 years
Lol, I saw 100 comments and thought there must be a heated debate on immigration going on. lol, nope. And we are getting pervy in here lately aren't we. These poor actors have to feel like meat. :wink: Between y'all, and me heating up the keyboard with my man Brendon, we are getting a bit pg-13! :wink:
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