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Ja or Nein? Holding US Election Rally at German Landmark

German Chancellor Angela Merkel thinks the Brandenburg Gate, a symbol of German unity, makes an inappropriate backdrop for a Barack Obama Summer speech.

Monolithic American political figures have given historical speeches in the German Capital. In Berlin, John F. Kennedy declared "Ich bin ein Berliner" and President Ronald Reagan ordered the USSR to "tear down this wall" in front of the Brandenburg Gate. Bill Clinton even gave a speech about German unification with the same landmark in the background.

But Merkel's skepticism remains, even if Senator Obama wants to discuss common challenges between the US and Germany. Even so, it might not be up to the conservative chancellor, as the local government makes the decision and Berlin's mayor has already supported the plan. Plus, everyday Germans probably don't have a problem with an Obama speech — Germany would elect Obama in a landslide, as 72 percent favor him compared to McCain's 11 percent support among Germans.

What do you think about an Obama speech at the gate?

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UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
The statue is a great place for an international leader to speak from. It isn't a good place for someone from, say France, to give a "elect me" speach.
jessy777 jessy777 7 years
Why did McCain tour South American and Mexico? This election will have great global consequences and the world is watching it very carefully. The candidate on both sides are very aware of this and are acting accordingly. I agree that it is a strange choice of location considering the history but I don't have a problem with it. I also agree with Jillness, The Statue of Liberty would be a great place for international speakers.
redegg redegg 7 years
"It is unusual to hold election rallies abroad. No German candidate for high office would even think of using the National Mall (in Washington) or Red Square in Moscow for a rally because it would not be seen as appropriate." That is why the Germans are saying it is odd. Wait until you make the presidency to make speeches there like everyone else.
redegg redegg 7 years
"It is unusual to hold election rallies abroad. No German candidate for high office would even think of using the National Mall (in Washington) or Red Square in Moscow for a rally because it would not be seen as appropriate."That is why the Germans are saying it is odd. Wait until you make the presidency to make speeches there like everyone else.
gigill gigill 7 years
Ah, what you say Madchen makes sense. Why doesn't he hold off in making that speech there until AFTER he's elected? It does seem a bit presumptuous that he wants to speak in a spot that's traditionally reserved for leaders (not candidates).Someone else brought up a good point in this thread - why is he making a speech in Germany exactly? Shouldn't he be focused on speaking in his own country during election time?
gigill gigill 7 years
Ah, what you say Madchen makes sense. Why doesn't he hold off in making that speech there until AFTER he's elected? It does seem a bit presumptuous that he wants to speak in a spot that's traditionally reserved for leaders (not candidates). Someone else brought up a good point in this thread - why is he making a speech in Germany exactly? Shouldn't he be focused on speaking in his own country during election time?
Mädchen Mädchen 7 years
Actually, I'm sort of with Merkel on this one (I'm surprised myself). I would have no problem whatsoever with him speaking there, if he was already President, but he hasn't even been elected yet. The Brandenburg Gate is a very special place and it's only used for this sort of thing on very special occasions (never for election campaigns), so it actually strikes me as a bit presumptuous of him to want to give a speech there.Actually, news now is that they're trying to find a compromise. It's possibly he'll just walk through the gate (obviously accompanied by the press ;)) and then give his speech at another spot.
Mädchen Mädchen 7 years
Actually, I'm sort of with Merkel on this one (I'm surprised myself). I would have no problem whatsoever with him speaking there, if he was already President, but he hasn't even been elected yet. The Brandenburg Gate is a very special place and it's only used for this sort of thing on very special occasions (never for election campaigns), so it actually strikes me as a bit presumptuous of him to want to give a speech there. Actually, news now is that they're trying to find a compromise. It's possibly he'll just walk through the gate (obviously accompanied by the press ;)) and then give his speech at another spot.
Jude-C Jude-C 7 years
Thanks for making me spray soda out my nose laughing, rac.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
What if he had been in Frankfurt? I am a hot dog. :wink:
em1282 em1282 7 years
"'Ich bin ein Berliner' means 'I'm a donut'!" Any Eddie Izzard fans in the hizzy tonight? :pepino: I think it's a pretty cool idea, though, but only if Obama can squeeze into that Fat Elvis jumpsuit up there. Kidding, of course. ;)
em1282 em1282 7 years
"'Ich bin ein Berliner' means 'I'm a donut'!" Any Eddie Izzard fans in the hizzy tonight? :pepino: I think it's a pretty cool idea, though, but only if Obama can squeeze into that Fat Elvis jumpsuit up there. Kidding, of course. ;)
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
Kris, we could dance and it would look like a mirror!
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
Dang Kris, I didn't notice it before, now I can't look away from the man camel toe!! :jawdrop:
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
Mommy took care of them tonight, 'cause I drove the family all over God's green earth for vacation.
KrisSugar KrisSugar 7 years
it's just hug. :hug: better go make sure those kiddies are tucked in! :)
KrisSugar KrisSugar 7 years
it's just hug. :hug: better go make sure those kiddies are tucked in! :)
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 7 years
Haha! Just kidding.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 7 years
Haha! Just kidding.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 7 years
Speaking of speeches how did those pre-school commencement addresses go UnDave?
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 7 years
Speaking of speeches how did those pre-school commencement addresses go UnDave?
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
(darn) :embarass:
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
(darn) :embarass:
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
:hugs:(Closest thing to slow dancing)
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
:hugs: (Closest thing to slow dancing)
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