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Joseph Wilson: Obama Has Not Proven Better Judgment

Joseph Wilson, who personifies the dissent surrounding the build up to the Iraq war, profoundly resents Barack Obama's distortion of George Bush's folly into Hillary Clinton's responsibility.

On the Huffington Post, the husband of ex-CIA agent Valerie Plame and former ambassador, systematically deflates Obama's argument that he possesses superior judgment, evidenced by Obama's 2002 speech against the war. For some of the arguments made by Wilson,

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Wilson contends that:

  • Obama was not privy to briefings by Secretary of State Colin Powell, in support of authorization as a diplomatic tool.
  • Obama's 2002 speech was nothing more than pander during a re-election campaign for an Illinois senate seat in the most liberal district in the state. No other position would have been viable.
  • Bush lied to Congress about his intention, and cooked up intelligence.
  • Obama is a political opportunist looking to avoid having his fingerprints on any controversial issue that might require real judgment, while preserving his freedom to attack his adversary for actually taking positions.

To find out what Joe Wilson makes of Obama's judgments in foreign affairs as a US senator, read the piece.

Are you convinced by Wilson that Obama's 2002 speech is not enough to demonstrate superior judgment? Or — do we want leaders that are informed and intuitive enough to spot cooked intelligence?

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piper23 piper23 8 years
I get the impression that he doesn't really care for Barack. He makes some interesting points though.
liliblu liliblu 8 years
"Don't vote for candidates based on their press coverage, pro or con. Vote for them based on whether they voted for the Iraq war "with conviction" (thanks for that, Jennifer Nix). Vote for them based on whether they're irresponsible in reacting to ethnic slurs about their opponents. Vote for them based on whether they provide talking points John McCain can use against their opponent. Or find some other reason to vote for the candidate of your choice. Just don't pick a candidate based on how the press behaves. That would be a joke." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkS9y5t0tR0
amers230 amers230 8 years
wackdoodle: i love that you just said everything i've been trying to explain to my friends as to why i'm not a big Obama fan. i just feel like he's all talk and no substance, which is why i've had an uneasy feeling about him since he stepped into the race. and i agree that Wilson's got some serious points. i always hated how Obama's campaign goes on and on about his "superior judgement." Let's hope Clinton can pull through!!
wackdoodle wackdoodle 8 years
I agree with Joe Wilson as well. Just because Barak showed up and spoke doesn't show he actively did anything to prevent the war. Additionally, the more time passes the more to me at least this becomes a moot issue - the launching of the war and it becomes about how to diplomatically and safely help Iraq recover from what we did. I don't think Barak has a clue about how to do that. He's acting "See how courageous I was for saying no", he did not know whether his decision was right or wrong he was simply posturing. It's just like my sister after the Lotto numbers have been picked "Oh, I would have chosen those numbers and I'd be rich now." Bull pucky, hindsight is 20/20 given the way the Bush Administration presented the information to congress and the public - people were misled and manipulated into believe this was what was best for the US. I personally am sick of him playing this one note over and over again. He needs to actually focus on what he thinks he can do NOW, besides unrealistically pulling troops out of Iraq. He should be talking about what he will actually try to do instead of trying to position himself as the next "MLK jr" with the empty "Yes, we can" speeches. At this point to me Barak Obama is the personification of "All sound and fury signifying nothing." A complete man of inaction.
megnmac megnmac 8 years
Um, aren't all politicians opportunists and seeking to take positions that will get them elected? Aren't they just doing what they have to do and say to please voters - and isn't that ultimately what we want? Politicians doing things that make the public happy and keep them voting for us? hm. I don't think Obama is the great answer, but I don't think Hillary is any less opportunistic. They both are working for the people... and it can either be considered selling out to those interests and pandering... or it can be considered working to do the most for the most people... does it matter if they both get the same result (politicians doing what we want)?
janneth janneth 8 years
Obama kinda has that teflon thing going.
janneth janneth 8 years
I can't figure out why Sen Clinton never brings up these points whenever Sen Obama brags about not voting for the war.
Cadet Cadet 8 years
And he chooses after Obama's 12 (currently) wins in a row to talk about this? How convenient... It is nice to see the fact that he wasn't in the Senate (and even a quote from him mentioning such) when he made his 2002 speech. But I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that this leads to him having poor judgement. I'm pretty sure that Obama supporters have other proof of him having good judgement. :OY:
Jude-C Jude-C 8 years
If we're going to mention any alleged corruption and questionable deals in Obama's campaign, perhaps we should take a look at Billary's past campaign financing, fundraising, and financial records and scandals--and wait until more of her White House papers are released. As for Wilson's Huffington Post article, while he does raise a couple of interesting points, overall I find very little new or compelling statements or evidence that I haven't already heard from other Obama opponents. Certainly nothing that's going to change my mind, and much of it smacks of a political hack job.
ktownpolarbear ktownpolarbear 8 years
i agree with joe wilson. i don't think one speech should define obama as having good judgement. there's still accepting campaign funds from a slumlord and questionable deals that's still being investigated.
Kaysnowboarder Kaysnowboarder 8 years
Citizen, I think your question is bias to say that Clinton should have been able to have the intuition to know George Bush and the whole administration was lying. Here are some more quotes from the article and I do beleive that Obama is an opportunist and a light weight and if he is elected it is the same as the fanatical right voting in George Bush - now it is pendulum swinging all the way to the left of the left. "(Obama) he offers one speech he made in 2002 during a reelection campaign for an Illinois senate seat in the most liberal district in the state, so liberal that no other position would have been viable. When he made that speech, Obama was not privy to the briefings by, among others, Secretary of State Colin Powell, in support of the Authorization of Use of Military Force as a diplomatic tool to push the international community to impose intrusive inspections on Saddam Hussein." "in 2006, he (Obama),clearly said, "I'm always careful to say that I was not in the Senate, so perhaps the reason I thought it was such a bad idea was that I didn't have the benefit of US intelligence. And for those who did, it might have led to a different set of choices." "In fact, the administration lied in order to secure support for its war of choice, including cooking the intelligence and misleading Congress about the intent of the authorization. Senator Clinton's position, stated in her floor speech, was in favor of allowing the United Nations weapons inspectors to complete their mission and to build a broad international coalition. Bush rejected her path. It was his war of choice."
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