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McCain Gears Up For General Fight — He's Everywhere!

McCain Gears Up For General Fight — He's Everywhere!

Well, hello gorgeous! McCain has been enjoying the fruits of the Andre the Giant-sized Democratic primary but suddenly today, he's all over the map. (Not to mention a stop in my home state!) Here's what's going on with the Republican Senator:

  • A sneak-preview of the New York Times Sunday magazine section, the huge article called "The McCain Doctrines," includes this quote from Max Cleland, Georgia’s former Democratic senator: “McCain is my friend and brother, and I love him dearly. But I think you learn something fighting on the ground, like me and John Kerry and Chuck Hagel did in Vietnam. This objective of ‘hearts and minds’? Well, hello! You didn’t know which heart and mind was going to blow you up!"
  • McCain spoke moments ago in Columbus, OH, jumping feet first into the general election and outlining plans for his presidency. He laid out a timetable of his own for Iraq — one of victory. Imagining the world at the end of his term he said, "By January 2013, America has welcomed home most of the servicemen and women who have sacrificed terribly so that America might be secure in her freedom. The Iraq War has been won. Iraq is a functioning democracy, although still suffering from the lingering effects of decades of tyranny and centuries of sectarian tension." He added by 2013, "there is no longer any place in the world al Qaeda can consider a safe haven," and that there still will not have been a "major terrorist attack in the United States since September 11, 2001."
  • Cindy McCain has sold off $2 million she held in funds with investments in Sudan businesses. The mutual funds have investments in companies with business in Sudan according to an organization that has been working to persuade states, universities and other organizations to divest. A spokesman for the campaign says, "As soon as she was made aware, she sold it."

Do you believe McCain's vision for the end of his term in office? Will the US have won the Iraq war? Are you interested in Cindy McCain's financial situation — especially since she's demurred to release her tax returns?

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Jillness Jillness 7 years
I wish there was a trust worthy source on legislation! It would be so helpful not only for future legislation, but for characterization of past votes. Citizens are pretty much left to the whims of media interpretation right now. Arg! :)
lilkimbo lilkimbo 7 years
Yeah, Jill, everything I"m finding seems really biased one way or the other. However, I think it is important to note that McCain supports a different version of the GI Bill that also extends educational allowances, just in different ways.
Jillness Jillness 7 years
I have been searching for more specifics about this GI Bill. I found an article on MSN that talks about it (but it is mostly bickering between congresspersons). One thing they mention at the end of the article is: "The plan would impose a surtax on individual incomes exceeding $500,000 to pay for the 10 year, $52 billion cost of boosting the GI Bill to provide Iraq veterans with college educations. Couples would pay the tax on income exceeding $1 Million." It doesn't make any mention of small business. I was wondering if anyone else had found different explainations of the bill. I wish I could find the text itself or an unbiased explanation of all the details!
lilkimbo lilkimbo 7 years
I also don't think that the answer to our healthcare issues is more choices. The answer is in making it more affordable for everyone. Making more plans available without dealing with why the costs keep skyrocketing in the first place is going to do nothing. Millions will still be left uninsured. Roarman, if you read McCain's entire health care plan on his website, you will see that it is not just about choice; he also has plans for how to "deal with the skyrocketing costs." As for winning in Iraq, it is impossible since we should have never been there in the first place. As long as we are, we will continue to be a target. Do you think the face that we are in Iraq is the sole reason we are a target? Regardless of whether you believe we should have gone to Iraq in the first place, do you honestly believe we should completely pull out and leave the country in shambles at this point?
Roarman Roarman 7 years
I could never get behind John McCain because of his pro life record. I think Roe vs. Wade should be left intact not overturned as supported by Mr. McCain. I also don't think that the answer to our healthcare issues is more choices. The answer is in making it more affordable for everyone. Making more plans available without dealing with why the costs keep skyrocketing in the first place is going to do nothing. Millions will still be left uninsured. As for winning in Iraq, it is impossible since we should have never been there in the first place. As long as we are, we will continue to be a target.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 7 years
Thanks, Jill. You have definitely raised some good points, too (as always). I am content to disagree on the health care remark, also. I see how it could be open to your interpretation, but I don't think that's the only interpretation.
Jillness Jillness 7 years
lilkimbo, you raise some vaild points. Point taken! I still disagree with you on the "exclusive" health care remark. But then we are just arguing semantics, so I don't think this line of debate will go anywhere. I am content to disagree on this point.
Jillness Jillness 7 years
Jennifer, that is not correct as I understand it. The details on Obama's webpage are very extensive, and my brain can only retain so much! From my perspective... Obama would create an organization that would act as a watch dog group. If insurance companies wanted to be apart of it, they would get a sort of seal of approval for having certain quality standards. Companies would not be forced to join this group or meet their standards, but it would be competitively beneficial for them to do so. People could go to a private insurance company that was not in the group. They would still receive the tax credit to put towards their insurance. They could also get private insurance with a company that was in the group, but they wouldn't have to go through the government to get that. They are still a private company, they just meet certain standards.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 7 years
Jill, while you might not think you are stretching things to say McCain's views are contradictory, most people would disagree with that statement, seeing as you just admitted that you don't know McCain's reasoning for not supporting the GI Bill. Assuming to know someone's reasoning seems like an odd move for someone who usually does her research. And hearing other Republicans say something on the news does not speak at all to McCain's views. That's like me saying I heard another Obama supporter say something and stretching it to apply to you. On the health care issue, there are people who are forced to either use their employer provided plan or not have health care at all due to the cost. Therefore, the "exclusive" health care plan available to them is through their employer or the government; there are no other viable options.
jennifer76 jennifer76 7 years
My understanding of Obama's plan is that while private insurance companies would remain an option, people would have to go through a government agency to access private insurance. Is that incorrect?
Jillness Jillness 7 years
What I have heard from Republicans on the news who are against the bill is that they worry that giving service members the option after 3 years would be harmful to the force because people would leave earlier. One actually said, "if we don't want to start a draft..." I don't agree with that line of thinking. Do we know why McCain specifically opposes it? I just think that if he is going to make the kind of promises he made in his speech that he should have really substantial reasons for not supporting this legislation. I don't think I am stretching things to say it is contradictory. As for the health care issue...there is no American today who is forced to only chose between their employer and the governments plan. Everyone has the option to buy an individual plan, it is just usually expensive. He said, "exclusively", meaning that there are no options. And he doesn't specifically talk about the other candidates, but it is pretty clear that is what he meant. His campaign thinks that insulting generically isn't as dirty as being direct. When you imply things that aren't factual, that is still as devious as flat out lying, IMO.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 7 years
I agree, pop! And I definitely think it's that way on both sides.
popgoestheworld popgoestheworld 7 years
lilkimbo, I agree it's more nuanced. I was listening to some of the argumentation against the bill, and the people who were opposing it did so on the grounds that the money to pay for it was largely being generated from taxing small businesses. I think that some of these bills are set up so that if you veto them you look like a monster.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 7 years
And you're right, Americans don't need politicians misrepresenting the other side. Kind of like the "100 years" comment.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 7 years
Jill, I believe just a few days ago you were arguing that legislation is extremely nuanced and a simple yes or no vote can't completely demonstrate how someone feels about an issue. Maybe McCain doesn't believe the GI Bill is the best way to help veterans. As for the insurance comment, no where does he state that either of the other candidates support putting choices into the hands of employers or the government. However, for some people, even currently, health care choices are "exclusively" in the hands of the government or their employers. So, his plan could be the "rather" to the present situation for some Americans.
Jillness Jillness 7 years
After reading his speech, I am confused. How can he say this: "A substantial increase in veterans educational benefits and improvements in their health care has aided recruitment and retention." ...And be against the GI Bill?????? And this is not true!!! "Reforms of the insurance market; putting the choice of health care into the hands of American families rather than exclusively with the government or employers" His use of the words "rather" and "exclusively" imply that the democratic plans would only allow you to get insurance through the government or your employer. This is NOT TRUE!!! My respect for John McCain drops another notch. Americans don't need politicians misrepresenting the other side. If his plan was better, he wouldn't need to.
jennifer76 jennifer76 7 years
This will all be so much more exciting when the general starts to heat up! On a side note, boo Beavers! Go Ducks!! :cheer: (Is it wrong that I used to get a kick out of wearing my Ducks stuff around the land of orange and black in high school? :evil: Actually, don't answer that. I *still* get a kick out of it everytime I visit Pops.)
KJerabek KJerabek 7 years
I don't think abusing money is something to worry about with Mccain, considering it was him along with Goldberg (I believe) who put a cap on how much money could be donated to a campaign. Prior unlimited money could be donated, but politicians would be swayed to do what the individual or company wanted in favor of mulah. I think he has Americas best interest at heart.
KJerabek KJerabek 7 years
"This is going to sound perverted but I don't care. I'm in love with Cindy McCain and I want to know everything about her. I want to go through her finances, her trash, her laundry. Yes, it's disgusting and maybe I'll even be put on some sort of government list, but she needs to know how I feel about her!" Haha you are funny!! Hey I love any woman who can pull off a hott pink suit!
lilkimbo lilkimbo 7 years
And I can't speak for others, but you definitely wouldn't be getting a different reaction from me if this was Obama, considering that I have focused on issues through the entire election. The only time I've discussed non-issues is in defense of candidates, including Obama.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 7 years
McCain paid the first class rate, which is specifically what the law stipulates. I personally think I'd be getting a different reaction from you if this was Obama.
Jillness Jillness 7 years
You don't think a 70% discount is questionable, considering his wife owns the company? If this was Obama, I think it would get a different reaction.
Jillness Jillness 7 years
"John McCain believes we should welcome a larger United Nations role in supporting the elections." I thought he thought that the United Nations was a failure, and instead proposed a "League of Democracies" that would exclude Russia, China, Jordan, Morocco, Egypt, and Singapore.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 7 years
The law explicitly states that the way in which McCain used the plane is legal.
Jillness Jillness 7 years
I do think that McCain abusing his own legislation is an important issue worth examining. You aren't allowed to use planes that are owned by family members or get free flights from companies, but he was "charged" to use Cindy's company's plane at only 30% of it's value. Seems a little sketchy to me.
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