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McCain and Obama Meet For Debate #2 After Day of Clashes

The second presidential debate is on tonight in Nashville, TN, and it stands to bring the candidates closer to each other — and to voters than they've been to date. The townhall format could be a dicey proposition given the . . . strong turn talk has taken in the last couple of days.

With fewer than 30 days left, McCain said since Obama was "taking the gloves off," he leveled a strong criticism of Obama's accusations over the credit crunch. He said, "I guess he believes if a lie is big enough and repeated often enough it will be believed." In Albuquerque, McCain continued saying, "For a guy who’s already authored two memoirs, he’s not exactly an open book. It’s as if somehow the usual rules don’t apply, and where other candidates have to explain themselves and their records, Senator Obama seems to think he is above all that."

To see what Obama's said lately, and how the the new format changes the whole game,

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Obama isn't taking the criticism lying down. He's planning a multi-media campaign to hit McCain on his involvement in the Keating Five scandal. He's adding a stringent ad saying, "Three quarters of a million jobs lost this year. Our financial system in turmoil. And John McCain? Erratic in a crisis. Out of touch on the economy. No wonder his campaign wants to change the subject."

With all of the strong words lashed back and forth, facing off on the same stage tonight in Nashville, townhall-style, could stand to be a little more than tense. What do they need to do to deal with the change in format? Slate's John Dickerson has the nuts and bolts on how to deal with a townhall audience — especially given the dark turn the campaign has taken lately.

Have the hard hits been equal? Are you geared up for the townhall format?

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wackdoodle wackdoodle 7 years
Eh Cindy Lou is still the bomb in my book (she probably could strangle me with her bare hands out of shear rage or joy and would never mus her hair or Ocsar De La Renta suit). She is like Barbie on some mind altering illegal substance. I like that she's bitchy and though she may try to hide it or just stand around and look good - she cannot help but fight and be bitchy. I like that. All that "my favorite family recipes" crap. Well I bet Cindy wanted to say "look website nerds, I have several maids and a full-time personal chef and a gardener and a valet and bodyguards to keep that old man away from me at night. I don't cook, I barely eat but I can fire someone in a heartbeat." Would you prefer super-intelligent over hyper? I think is she is the puppet-master and John is the puppet. Without her he'd be as poor as Biden. It seems her father was the one to put John on the political track and she's just taken over for her father.
stephley stephley 7 years
Ima, I don't think the last one is just a rumor. It's been around a long time and has never been denied that I can find - and you'd think Cindy would address it if she could defend her husband's valor. Also, it allegedly was witnessed by three reporters and two McCain aides - no one's come out and called it a lie - that I can find - and I have searched for a McCain response, because it's a fairly outrageous story.
Imabeliever Imabeliever 7 years
Cindy also misquoted John's abortion stance and had to be told she was wrong about her husband's beliefs by the morning TV host. Then they refused to answer the same question a week later to avoid disagreeing. She also effectively hide taking flying lessons so she could surprise her husband which isn't that difficult to believe since he had no clue she was popping pills, stealing from her own charity and fraudulently writing the subscriptions to some of her charities employees names to get more drugs.. which then makes you wonder...do they even know one another? That seems like a real close marriage. Her parents were the ones who busted her on her drugs.. or so she says.. the DEA were already investigating her at that point. Oh and how did she avoid doing any jail time for that? Let alone the rumor that I hope is total BS that he called her the c word when she lovingly joked about his thinning hair. I think they just might be the most romantic political couple EVER! In my opinion Cindy can stay on the sidelines...
Adrenalynn75 Adrenalynn75 7 years
Hyper-intelligent. That's certainly a new one...
stephley stephley 7 years
Hmmm. Cindy's the first person I heard say that being able to see Russia from Alaska counts as foreign policy experience and then today there's this: "Sen. Barack Obama has "waged the dirtiest campaign in American history," and her husband Sen. John McCain will use tonight's debate to correct the distortions." I'm not sure hyper-intelligent is the best way to describe her.
wackdoodle wackdoodle 7 years
Let Cindy debate Barak. The more I read about Cindy Lou McCain (I love that Cindy Lou) the more I think the wrong McCain is running for President. Cindy is the bomb and I think she could hold her won against Barak and probably surpass him. The woman is freaking hyper-intelligent.
Mykie7 Mykie7 7 years
I'm looking forward to this debate. It will be interesting, my son is being required to watch it for his CWP class, and it'll be interesting to hear his take on it.
hope2be hope2be 7 years
I didn't know this is going to be townhall format, sounds interesting! I was so burnt out with the whole negative campaigns both candidates have against each other to the point, I really don't watch any news regarding the election right now...but I guess I'll watch tonight's debate instead of my previous engagement to watch the horror flick "The Midnight Meat Train" LOL.
stephley stephley 7 years
"At a campaign event in Denver, Colorado, last week, a voter asked McCain when he was going to "let the gloves come off and go after" Obama. McCain's response: "How about Tuesday night?" This is not going to be pretty.
lorenashley lorenashley 7 years
plenty of woman don't take their husbands names. i can understand her keeping heinz for her sons sake...
stephley stephley 7 years
No need for such snottiness Dave, as someone pointed out in yesterday's thread, Heinz was a widow with several sons and felt that she wanted to keep the family name for their sake.
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
Oh, she was that proud of her husband?
stephley stephley 7 years
She never formally took Kerry - she let the press use it during the campaign for simplicity's sake.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 7 years
All I know is if these fools use up half an hour talking about Ayers and Keating I'm going to be pissed. Talk about the F'ing issues.
piper23 piper23 7 years
Don't you mean Teresa Heinz? I thought she dropped the Kerry.
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 7 years
and that makes it okay i guess, but then again the "obama has attack ads because mccain does" makes perfect sense also.
stephley stephley 7 years
Because we've never seen any comments about Michelle Obama here on Citizen Sugar. Or Teresa Heinz (Kerry).
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 7 years
wow, must be an empty day in the McCain controversy coffers to start resorting to picking on his wife.
Imabeliever Imabeliever 7 years
LOL! The floor their condo is on must be high enough that they can't make out all of the for sale, foreclosure, short sale and bank owned signs surrounding them. They must be busy on that limo ride from million dollar condo to private jet to the Sedona ranch to notice as well(the only way to get around says Cindy!). For us low life's it is a 1 1/2 hour drive... not exactly back breaking Cindy. Ah to be the prescription drug addicted daughter of a beer runner who snagged herself a married military man with political ambitions! That is the life that dreams are made of...ah right?
Adrenalynn75 Adrenalynn75 7 years
I made the jump from So. Cal as well. I lived in Long Beach (Strong Beach!). LOL! Sold that condo, doubled my money and bought a beautiful new house out here in Phoenix. I don't regret buying the house, just the timing of it. Ah wells. Everyone I know is in the same boat, so I don't feel too bad. Love the description about Cindy McCain. I totally see her doing that. Whenever I hear about McCain in Sedona, I feel like protesting and asking him to come down into Phoenix and see what he's done to his constituents. Its a sad state of affairs. I can't help thinking how many of these foreclosures could have been prevented if they worked with the homeowners more. But no, banks are greedy and instead of letting people adjust their loans, they'd rather take the risk of leaving a house in foreclosure and hoping to sell it at a marked down price. How F'ed up is that? Now we have to bail these damn banks out and are houses are losing significant value. It just makes me sicker. And what does John McCain do on the day our stock market with our 401k's dropped 777 points. He goes out and spews that infamous line "The Fundamentals of our economy are strong". He should walk down the streets of Phoenix once in while and sober up to the fact that it really is'nt. What a jack***.
Imabeliever Imabeliever 7 years
WOW.. Luckily we didn't buy when we moved here. We sold our condo in Southern Cal to move to SC.. where we had a huge home on a golf course with a pool for less than the rent of a 1 brm apt in Cali! Then felt we were too far away from home. So we sold that and moved here to Phx. But we hesitated to buy.. we didn't know what city we wanted to be in.. we rented a home in Chandler for a year and then moved here to Southern Phoenix renting a home on a golf course that was a foreclosure bought on the courthouse steps. Now two years later the houses on both sides of us our empty and bank owned. And we watched the price of the larger homes on the course (3000 sq ft) drop from 400,000 to 223,000. OUCH! SOOOOOOOOOOOO glad we didn't buy. My BIL though purchased a country club house in Gilbert for 700,000..now worth only 400,000. And thats not factoring the PGA golf course and clubhouse membership they purchased! I can't even bring myself to ask them how they are doing financially. Crazy out here in the desert..ol McCain's backyard. I wonder if Cindy stands at the window of her million dollar condo looking out over the city.. out towards their million dollar parking lot over by the stadium and thinks.. meh.. let them eat cake!
Adrenalynn75 Adrenalynn75 7 years
Ima...want to hear something sadder!?! A few months ago, they're were loads of people in my neighborhood, foreclosing on their undervalued homes, and buying up the bigger house down the street for far less. You would think any type of regulation would prevent people from doing that? Oh, but no. Mortgage brokers don't care. They see a sale. Its s**t like this that makes me so mad. Which is why the the economy is issue #1 for me. And after seeing that Keating video the Obama campaign produced, I'm even more scared of McCain and his history on handling a financial crisis.
Imabeliever Imabeliever 7 years
We are not that far apart Adrenalynn.. I am east of you on the Baseline Corridor at the foot of the South Mountains! You are about two suburban cities away. A hop, skip and a jump so to speak :)
Imabeliever Imabeliever 7 years
Its a fire sale now baby!! That is if you have 20% down, a credit score over 750 and a low debt to income ratio. Then it s easy peasy lemon squeezy to buy a lot of home for peanuts. Get your foreclosure pick of the litter. Every third of fourth house is up for grabs..foreclosure, bank owned, or short sale. Sad state of affairs.
Adrenalynn75 Adrenalynn75 7 years
Wow...IMA!!!! Where in Phoenix are you? Too funny! We should meet up. I live out in Buckeye and commute all the way in Tempe. ;) UD - As for AZ being in the housing bubble. Yes they were...so was California, Texas, Washington, Colorado, Florida...the list goes on and on and on and on. The amount of foreclosures weren't due to the cost of homes, but the lack of regulation on the people buying these homes. I bought a home under it's peak value at the time 2 years ago...it's worth half the undervalued price now. Meanwhile, my property taxes doubled over last year! So I'm not afraid of the suburban terrorist living in Chicago. What am I afraid of is what my house will be worth next year, and if my property taxes are still going to increase, or will I still have a job. Those are the issues people should care about. Thats what keeps me awake at night.
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