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NRA Aims False Claims at Barack Obama

Obama wants to ban handguns, hunting ammo, and the use of guns for home defense?! Not true! But that's what the NRA claims, and it's spending $15 million to get the message out through TV ads and mailers.

One deceptive NRA flier looks like it comes directly from the Obama campaign. Factcheck.org called out the NRA for its false assertions that Obama wants to take away gun rights. Factcheck asserts:

Much of what the NRA passes off as Obama's "10 Point Plan to 'Change' the Second Amendment" is actually contrary to what he has said throughout his campaign: that he "respects the constitutional rights of Americans to bear arms" and "will protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport, and use guns." The NRA, however, simply dismisses Obama's stated position as "rhetoric" and substitutes its own interpretation of his record as a secret "plan."

Obama has consistently said that he believes the Second Amendment creates an individual right. Obama does support national legislation against carrying concealed firearms, and he would reinstate the ban on semi-automatic assault weapons.

While it's reassuring to know that someone is looking into the truth behind campaign mailers, it's probably impossible to reach the majority of voters who received a deceptive mailer like this one.

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skb9850 skb9850 8 years
As if you really needed me to tell you, I'm pro-gun. I have always felt we had enough gun control legislation on the books and the real issue is those laws need to be enforced. It's great to see that I can agree with some of my liberal friends here. Em, M2 and TS all have posts I agree with. I do think there are appropriate restrictions for guns. They definitely shouldn't be in schools and I don't think they should be in bars either. I do want the right to carry concealed and have no problem going to a class as part of the requirements to do so.
skb9850 skb9850 8 years
As if you really needed me to tell you, I'm pro-gun. I have always felt we had enough gun control legislation on the books and the real issue is those laws need to be enforced.It's great to see that I can agree with some of my liberal friends here. Em, M2 and TS all have posts I agree with. I do think there are appropriate restrictions for guns. They definitely shouldn't be in schools and I don't think they should be in bars either. I do want the right to carry concealed and have no problem going to a class as part of the requirements to do so.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
"In a way it's very parallel to the abortion debate"you seriously read my mind on that ts! i had typed out that same idea but my window crashed when i hit send so it didnt go through and then i was too lazy ro do it again!
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
"In a way it's very parallel to the abortion debate" you seriously read my mind on that ts! i had typed out that same idea but my window crashed when i hit send so it didnt go through and then i was too lazy ro do it again!
organicsugr organicsugr 8 years
I agree. The situation of helpless citizens barred from defending themselves is a unique one. Well, if you exclude, college and highschool campus massacres. Funny that these places are targeted by those who wish commit mass murder.
Michelann Michelann 8 years
Laws against criminal negligence aren't gun-restriction laws. Like TS said.
mondaymoos mondaymoos 8 years
organic... I can never tell whether or not you're serious... *sigh* The razor blade situation was a unique one, and honestly, if guns were allowed on planes, they would've just had guns instead. People never know how they're going to react in stressful situations, and I don't think anyone on those planes was expecting what happened.
mondaymoos mondaymoos 8 years
organic... I can never tell whether or not you're serious... *sigh*The razor blade situation was a unique one, and honestly, if guns were allowed on planes, they would've just had guns instead. People never know how they're going to react in stressful situations, and I don't think anyone on those planes was expecting what happened.
True-Song True-Song 8 years
No, she's saying that would be banned without a specific law about guns.
mondaymoos mondaymoos 8 years
So you're not anti-restrictions, then Michelin. You're anti-NEW restrictions?
Michelann Michelann 8 years
"Well, again, it looks like we're starting with two very different premises, as I think it's quite obviously wrong to let, say, a mentally ill three year old bring a gun to school." There are already laws that could prevent this without putting restrictions on gun rights. The parents could be held criminally negligent for allowing this.
Michelann Michelann 8 years
"Well, again, it looks like we're starting with two very different premises, as I think it's quite obviously wrong to let, say, a mentally ill three year old bring a gun to school."There are already laws that could prevent this without putting restrictions on gun rights. The parents could be held criminally negligent for allowing this.
True-Song True-Song 8 years
But...argh. My point wasn't "these are the restrictions we should have," but rather, "I think we can all agree that there are some situations where a restriction would be appropriate."
organicsugr organicsugr 8 years
I too am anti-gun on planes. Obviously, it's much safer if everyone is unarmed and helpless to hijackers using tiny little knives as weapons. And yes, most parents let their children play with firearms, drink the chemicals under the sink, and take all of the pills from their medicine cabinet.
organicsugr organicsugr 8 years
I too am anti-gun on planes. Obviously, it's much safer if everyone is unarmed and helpless to hijackers using tiny little knives as weapons.And yes, most parents let their children play with firearms, drink the chemicals under the sink, and take all of the pills from their medicine cabinet.
MarinerMandy MarinerMandy 8 years
The way the laws are now, children can shoot guns, they just can't buy them.
mondaymoos mondaymoos 8 years
Hmm... I'm going to go ahead and side with TS, here. I'm anti bringing guns into schools and on planes... as far as children... that one is questionable. I was raised with guns in the house, and so raised that if for some (never happened) reason my dad left one out, I was not to touch it under any circumstances. However, most parents aren't that responsible.
True-Song True-Song 8 years
Well, again, it looks like we're starting with two very different premises, as I think it's quite obviously wrong to let, say, a mentally ill three year old bring a gun to school.
Michelann Michelann 8 years
I think it ought to be up to the parents whether their children have guns. Prisoners are allowed to be denied their rights after due process of law. Absolutely you should be able to bring guns on planes. And into schools.
True-Song True-Song 8 years
>Torg, if he says he supports your 2nd amendment right, but also believes in 'reasonable restrictions', that's a contradiction in itself to me I disagree, and since we're coming to this with such fundamentally different premises, I don't think we're going to get anywhere, but just for fun... In a way it's very parallel to the abortion debate, in my opinion. It seems like even someone who says they're for unrestricted abortion would concede to some restrictions. I was actually just watching the episode of West Wing last night where the Democratic Nominee gets in trouble with the "Women's Alliance" for saying he would support some restrictions on abortion. BECCA Political posturing aside, precisely what limits are you for? SANTOS Do you support abortion to support the sex of the baby? BECCA Of course not. SANTOS How about after an IQ test? BECCA No. SANTOS Well, then you support limits on abortion yourself. Isn't it all a matter of degrees after that? And I think a parallel case could be made for gun ownership. Do you support gun ownership for children? Should prisoners be allowed to have guns in jail? Should you be allowed to bring guns on planes? Into schools? After that, it's all a matter of degrees.
MarinerMandy MarinerMandy 8 years
I used to be anti gun just because that's how my parents were, but I did a debate my senior year of high school that completely changed my views and I think that if most people actually did research on the subject, their views would change. On this site everyone screams about educating yourself, but on this subject it seems to be based on emotions. There are "restrictions" that make perfect sense. If you are a violent felon or mentally ill you should not be able to own a firearm. I absolutely believe in passing a class to get a concealed carry permit. But restricting where you can carry and city wide gun bans make ZERO sense.
MarinerMandy MarinerMandy 8 years
I used to be anti gun just because that's how my parents were, but I did a debate my senior year of high school that completely changed my views and I think that if most people actually did research on the subject, their views would change. On this site everyone screams about educating yourself, but on this subject it seems to be based on emotions.There are "restrictions" that make perfect sense. If you are a violent felon or mentally ill you should not be able to own a firearm. I absolutely believe in passing a class to get a concealed carry permit. But restricting where you can carry and city wide gun bans make ZERO sense.
MarinerMandy MarinerMandy 8 years
Illinois has put all sorts of crazy restrictions on guns, not just in Chicago (which has worked out BRILLIANTLY). My husband is saying that there are several large manufacturers who are essentially being forced out due to legislation in the state. Obama's voting record when he was in the state house was very clearly in favor of those actions.
organicsugr organicsugr 8 years
Look, Michelin. He only supports commonsense infringements.
Michelann Michelann 8 years
Torg, if he says he supports your 2nd amendment right, but also believes in 'reasonable restrictions', that's a contradiction in itself to me.
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