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On the Newsstand: McCain vs. McCain

The current issue of Newsweek critiques a speech John McCain gave over a month ago. Old news, right? Well, apparently not — no one seemed to talk about the comprehensive, yet confused, speech made by a would-be president.

McCain proposed expelling Russia from the G-8 (the council of world economic powers), and adding India and Brazil, while rebuffing China. This active exclusion of two major world powers would undo the work of two of McCain's GOP predecessors — Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan.

The article's author, Fareed Zakaria, lamented McCain's betrayal of pragmatism:

I write this with sadness because I greatly admire John McCain, a man of intelligence, honor and enormous personal and political courage. I also agree with much of what else he said in that speech in Los Angeles. But in recent years, McCain has turned into a foreign-policy schizophrenic, alternating between neoconservative posturing and realist common sense.

McCain's position actively opposes all non-democracies, at the expense of US strategic allies and national security.

McCain isn't the only one making extreme foreign policy statements. For some democratic comparison,

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Last week, Hillary Clinton told Good Morning America that she would "totally obliterate" Iran if it foolishly considered launching an attack on Israel. Countries around the world took notice, and critics called the Clinton statements foolish and dangerous.

Barack Obama's openness to communicating with adversaries has been considered radical; yet, it seems the other candidates are over compensating with dangerous rhetoric. Do you think it's smart for the US to pursue a "with us, or against us" foreign policy? Can the US afford to actively exclude non-democratic powers?

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elissakay elissakay 8 years
I cannot for the life of me figure out who I want to vote for! I don't like politics much, but on the big civic decisions I'm usually set pretty early. : ) Hilary seems so wacko, Obama seems to have a hidden past and supports various odd organizations, and I just don't know what to think about McCain! ahh!
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 8 years
:ROTFL: Kris! I forgot about the leg-shaving. Jill...too true, too true!!!
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 8 years
:ROTFL: Kris! I forgot about the leg-shaving.Jill...too true, too true!!!
Jillness Jillness 8 years
"are ya'll trying to have an intelligent conversation while we discuss silly things?" This sums up the campaign season in a nutshell! ;)
Jillness Jillness 8 years
"are ya'll trying to have an intelligent conversation while we discuss silly things?"This sums up the campaign season in a nutshell! ;)
KrisSugar KrisSugar 8 years
Harmony we also talked about leg-shaving, but I think that was on another thread. :)
KrisSugar KrisSugar 8 years
Jillness, was this the same speech Citizen linked to a few weeks ago? Gosh, time has really flown. I think this is it, judging by the time frame. http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/mccain_i_am_a_realistic_ideali.html
KrisSugar KrisSugar 8 years
Jillness, was this the same speech Citizen linked to a few weeks ago? Gosh, time has really flown. I think this is it, judging by the time frame. http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/mccain_i_am_a_realistic_ideali.html
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 8 years
Oh and cabaker...how can you hate the color yellow when your avatar is a nice plump YELLOW cupcake!
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 8 years
That was an enjoyable read. :) I'm sad that I missed it. The funniest bit is hypno and Jill having a real debate while you guys talked about hippies, dreads, arugula, zoolander, tattoos, the name zebulon, and how many bubbas you've known. :ROTFL: For the record: I have known one bubba, but two bo's. I DO enjoy arugula from time to time. I agree with everything hypno has said. I have three tattoos. One is on my foot (OUCH!) and two are on my shoulder blade. One on my shoulder blade is an anchor. I got it the day out of bootcamp. I'm a little embarrassed now that I have it, but guys seem to like it. ;) I am the daughter of hippies hence the name.
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 8 years
That was an enjoyable read. :)I'm sad that I missed it. The funniest bit is hypno and Jill having a real debate while you guys talked about hippies, dreads, arugula, zoolander, tattoos, the name zebulon, and how many bubbas you've known. :ROTFL:For the record:I have known one bubba, but two bo's.I DO enjoy arugula from time to time.I agree with everything hypno has said.I have three tattoos. One is on my foot (OUCH!) and two are on my shoulder blade. One on my shoulder blade is an anchor. I got it the day out of bootcamp. I'm a little embarrassed now that I have it, but guys seem to like it. ;)I am the daughter of hippies hence the name.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
I would love to find the full text for this speech!
lukal lukal 8 years
This conversation has gone in the toilet. And why do you think Hillary wears only pantsuits?
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 8 years
My brian just has mind of it's own. I can't do a thing about it.
mymellowman mymellowman 8 years
Ponderous.
mymellowman mymellowman 8 years
Ponderous.
cine_lover cine_lover 8 years
Certainly seems like it doesn't it Kris? What is up with that?
KrisSugar KrisSugar 8 years
are ya'll trying to have an intelligent conversation while we discuss silly things? :)
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 8 years
I agree Jillness that Sen. Clinton's statement should have never been uttered. To me it's one of the unmentionable truths. At this place in time I seriously doubt that our response in light of such an act would be anything but military. I don't think it's right, but I think it's so.
KrisSugar KrisSugar 8 years
Zebulon Pike is a famous person named Zebulon, as in Pike's Peak in CO!
KrisSugar KrisSugar 8 years
I think his parents were just normal folks. I thought it was pretty hot. And he was hot. So it fit.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
hypo, my problem with Hillary's comment is that it is for all countries in the middle east, not just Israel, who we have a vested interest in. I just think that the idea is way too broad to be enacted.I think that foreign relations are SO IMPORTANT right now, and this election Americans have a clear choice as the direction our leaders take. <b>This election is diplomacy vs. exclusion. </b>Diplomacy first seems to be so much more intellegent to me. The consequences of the choice Americans make this November will be vast.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
hypo, my problem with Hillary's comment is that it is for all countries in the middle east, not just Israel, who we have a vested interest in. I just think that the idea is way too broad to be enacted. I think that foreign relations are SO IMPORTANT right now, and this election Americans have a clear choice as the direction our leaders take. This election is diplomacy vs. exclusion. Diplomacy first seems to be so much more intellegent to me. The consequences of the choice Americans make this November will be vast.
cine_lover cine_lover 8 years
Zebula. That makes me smile.I would buy it Sy, but it is a bit out of my price range. ;)
cine_lover cine_lover 8 years
Zebula. That makes me smile. I would buy it Sy, but it is a bit out of my price range. ;)
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