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Obama's Pledge For Iraq Timetable Now Army Recruiting Tool?

Obama's Pledge For Iraq Timetable Now Army Recruiting Tool?

An Army career counselor appears to have used Barack Obama's election as tool to persuade former soldiers to rejoin. In an alleged email to an Iraq veteran (with the subject line "New Commander in Chief") the recruiter wrote: "A President Elect who says he'll get us out of Iraq. What are you waiting for?"

The appeal, made while Bush remains commander-in-chief, could be seen as a confession of disapproval for the Bush Administration's war policy.

Even if this isn't official US Army policy to use the exit of George W. Bush as an enlisting device, do you think a new president with a drastically different military policy could help boost recruitment?

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CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 7 years
They are like used car salesmen really, no offense to anyone who does this for a living and or knows someone who does. Its their job to convince people to join.
sw33tlovin sw33tlovin 7 years
yes, i think that more people will enlist ... whether it be bc they support what the new president elect stands for or bc they feel more patriotic due to how historical the election was.
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
I think you give a guy who has no military experience way to much hope Janneth.
janneth janneth 7 years
I think with Obama as commander in chief, there will be more confidence in leadership, more clarity in direction, and therefore the military could attract those who would not have considered it before.
yesteryear yesteryear 7 years
this is not surprising at all. i'm really happy for all of the soldiers their families who now can see a light at the end of the tunnel.on a similar note, i think i speak for a lot of other local and state government employees who also happen to be liberals, when i say that with obama running things, working for the federal government is once again an option for us, too. the new green jobs/workforce development programs he's talked about investing in are really exciting to me. and haus, look up PNAC and youll see that iraq was planned BEFORE 9/11 happened.
yesteryear yesteryear 7 years
this is not surprising at all. i'm really happy for all of the soldiers their families who now can see a light at the end of the tunnel. on a similar note, i think i speak for a lot of other local and state government employees who also happen to be liberals, when i say that with obama running things, working for the federal government is once again an option for us, too. the new green jobs/workforce development programs he's talked about investing in are really exciting to me. and haus, look up PNAC and youll see that iraq was planned BEFORE 9/11 happened.
ceej ceej 7 years
Sorry Hausfrau but you cannot put the war and 9/11 in the same sentence here. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
ceej ceej 7 years
Sorry Hausfrau but you cannot put the war and 9/11 in the same sentence here. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 7 years
Well using a little honest bait rather than the lies that got them kicked off of some school campuses if fine by me.
snowbunny11 snowbunny11 7 years
haus- it's really Bush's rhetoric, and all of the errors that were committed in the beginning of the Iraq war that would scare me off for enlisting under Bush. But I don't think he's evil either, just not that smart. I did consider signing up last year, and my brother in law, who is high-up in recruiting told me to wait until there was a change to a Democratic President. I can't remember his reasoning (it was nearly a year ago) but he is extremely conservative, in fact I'm certain he voted for McCain. I think things will change under Obama, but I also think that we won't pull out of Iraq right away, and deployment rates will still be high. Another factor that makes enlisting now compared to four years ago is that we kind of have a better idea of what we're doing. If you ever catch any of the interviews with generals on NPR, you can see they've learned a lot about fighting in the Middle East. I'm hoping a less hawkish approach, that favors diplomacy, and relies on the knowledge we've gained makes our Army more capable and thus better to join. Number one recruitment incentive they should have: guaranteed base choice (when not deployed). I didn't join partly because my sweetie is working on his PhD and can't just follow me to Iowa, or wherever the hell they might try to stick me.
snowbunny11 snowbunny11 7 years
haus- it's really Bush's rhetoric, and all of the errors that were committed in the beginning of the Iraq war that would scare me off for enlisting under Bush. But I don't think he's evil either, just not that smart.I did consider signing up last year, and my brother in law, who is high-up in recruiting told me to wait until there was a change to a Democratic President. I can't remember his reasoning (it was nearly a year ago) but he is extremely conservative, in fact I'm certain he voted for McCain. I think things will change under Obama, but I also think that we won't pull out of Iraq right away, and deployment rates will still be high. Another factor that makes enlisting now compared to four years ago is that we kind of have a better idea of what we're doing. If you ever catch any of the interviews with generals on NPR, you can see they've learned a lot about fighting in the Middle East. I'm hoping a less hawkish approach, that favors diplomacy, and relies on the knowledge we've gained makes our Army more capable and thus better to join.Number one recruitment incentive they should have: guaranteed base choice (when not deployed). I didn't join partly because my sweetie is working on his PhD and can't just follow me to Iowa, or wherever the hell they might try to stick me.
hausfrau hausfrau 7 years
I think its silly to act as if Bush wanted to start a war all along, as if 9/11 had never happened and he would have just found some other country to invade. I don't think he is pure evil therefore I doubt the decision to send our troops into harms way was made on some kind of whim.
hausfrau hausfrau 7 years
I think its silly to act as if Bush wanted to start a war all along, as if 9/11 had never happened and he would have just found some other country to invade. I don't think he is pure evil therefore I doubt the decision to send our troops into harms way was made on some kind of whim.
PinkNC PinkNC 7 years
"I would definitely be more likely to sign up for the armed services under a President who seems not so keen to start wars." Your comment is completely understandable *True Song*. I'm sure many others feel that way too.
PinkNC PinkNC 7 years
"I would definitely be more likely to sign up for the armed services under a President who seems not so keen to start wars."Your comment is completely understandable *True Song*. I'm sure many others feel that way too.
foxie foxie 7 years
"The appeal, made while Bush remains commander-in-chief, could be seen as a confession of disapproval for the Bush Administration's war policy." Totally disagree. It's about identifying things that would appeal to all sorts of different people and cause them to consider the military. Some people would be more apt to join/re-up if they didn't think they'd be deployed the whole time, and that's who this is directed to. Do you really believe that this reenlistment tool is indicative of the military at large taking some sort of official position?
foxie foxie 7 years
"The appeal, made while Bush remains commander-in-chief, could be seen as a confession of disapproval for the Bush Administration's war policy."Totally disagree. It's about identifying things that would appeal to all sorts of different people and cause them to consider the military. Some people would be more apt to join/re-up if they didn't think they'd be deployed the whole time, and that's who this is directed to. Do you really believe that this reenlistment tool is indicative of the military at large taking some sort of official position?
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
In their defense, it is their job to get people to re-enlist, and this would definitely get people to do it. It's not exactely a lie, unless Obama changes his mind.
MSucre MSucre 7 years
I agree with you guys. It seems to me as a way to manipulate people. They are getting people to sign up, while implying that they won't have to go to Iraq. Even under the best of circumstances, Obama will not be able to leave Iraq that quickly. Also, there is still the war in Afghanistan going on. It seems to me to be a sneaky way to almost trick people to enlist by giving them the impression that they will not have to go to Iraq.
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
I agree with Ceej. It's a sales tool. Obama is already backpedaling on many things, and we were talking with Iraq about how we would withdrawal before this election. This administration change isn't going to mean a sudden end to fighting everywhere. Fighting will go on, as it's the nature of humans.
ceej ceej 7 years
Some of my friends used the armed forces as a way of having their tertiary education paid for, they knew they would never see armed combat. You'd come out with a degree for a couple of years work. I bet that type of thinking is gone forever. I find this email disingenuous though, who knows how long they will see active service once the focus is on Afghanistan?
ceej ceej 7 years
Some of my friends used the armed forces as a way of having their tertiary education paid for, they knew they would never see armed combat. You'd come out with a degree for a couple of years work.I bet that type of thinking is gone forever.I find this email disingenuous though, who knows how long they will see active service once the focus is on Afghanistan?
True-Song True-Song 7 years
That's hilarious. I would definitely be more likely to sign up for the armed services under a President who seems not so keen to start wars.
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