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Pencils Down! Third-World Math Scores in Chicago

A new study comparing US urban school districts and foreign countries found that math scores in Chicago are on par with other countries — Third World countries. Only 13 percent of eighth graders in the city's public schools are proficient in math.

One education expert thinks the scores make a persuasive case against creating magnet schools for gifted students, arguing that students need the few top students as role models, and examples of "normal kids who perform well."

Thankfully Chicago is instituting a Math and Science Initiative to help boost learning. Does the state of American schools have to fall to third world achievement levels before people get serious about public education?

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UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
Meike - I think the philosophy from those schools should be brought over, expecially the attitude that academics comes first, and everything else is a <b>distant</b> second. I also like that they weren't afraid to fail a student. We definitely need to be able to do that here. IMO, passing a student that doesn't deserve it only hurts the student in the long run.
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
Meike - I think the philosophy from those schools should be brought over, expecially the attitude that academics comes first, and everything else is a distant second. I also like that they weren't afraid to fail a student. We definitely need to be able to do that here. IMO, passing a student that doesn't deserve it only hurts the student in the long run.
Meike Meike 7 years
That's incredibly sad. Well, I attended very competitive Department of Defense Education Activity (DODEA) schools K-11 which are ranked at the top or near the top as far as all American schools go. It probably helps that DODEA looks for the most qualified teachers to employ in the success of these schools. They also are not lenient with passing failures. Academics took first priority and extra curricular activities like sports remained important but came second. We definitely had the works. Hah. Foreign languages starting in kindergarten, comprehensive sex-ed in sixth grade, cross-education with host nations' schools, CSEE as an elective in high school, incredible diversity among the student body, etc. When I moved to the states and attended a public school for my 12th year, it was disappointing because they didn't offer anything more advance than what I previously took. That was...surprising. I ended up taking redundant courses and flying by effortlessly.Maybe they need to bring over the same education philosophy from these overseas U.S. base schools state-side because they are doing something correct.
Meike Meike 7 years
That's incredibly sad. Well, I attended very competitive Department of Defense Education Activity (DODEA) schools K-11 which are ranked at the top or near the top as far as all American schools go. It probably helps that DODEA looks for the most qualified teachers to employ in the success of these schools. They also are not lenient with passing failures. Academics took first priority and extra curricular activities like sports remained important but came second. We definitely had the works. Hah. Foreign languages starting in kindergarten, comprehensive sex-ed in sixth grade, cross-education with host nations' schools, CSEE as an elective in high school, incredible diversity among the student body, etc. When I moved to the states and attended a public school for my 12th year, it was disappointing because they didn't offer anything more advance than what I previously took. That was...surprising. I ended up taking redundant courses and flying by effortlessly. Maybe they need to bring over the same education philosophy from these overseas U.S. base schools state-side because they are doing something correct.
Jessiebanana Jessiebanana 7 years
I went to horrible schools after I left my my magnet school. I must say the only thing that saved me was my own predisposition towards nerdiness. I volunteer at Grout Elementary school and it is truly a sad sight. The teachers are great, the kids are interested, but when you have a class of 30+ 2nd graders and one teacher, I don't know how much learning you can expect. In a country where licensed day care providers have to have a small ratio of 4-6:1 children to care provider and even smaller infant to care provider ratio its ridiculous that we have such large class sizes and that we consider laying off teachers a losable expense. Schools can buy all the books they want, but teachers are the primary source in k-12 education.
pixelhaze pixelhaze 7 years
Sexylibrarian: it's so funny you mention that just last night I met a special ed teacher who told me how No Child Left Behind is completely unfair to her students. They get tested on their grade level instead of their function level and of course never meet standards.Not sure if I agree with the magnet school comment from the education expert. Couldn't the opposite happen too, and the magnet kids would get dragged down? Being the smart kid isn't necessarily the "cool" thing that everyone aspires to be.
pixelhaze pixelhaze 7 years
Sexylibrarian: it's so funny you mention that just last night I met a special ed teacher who told me how No Child Left Behind is completely unfair to her students. They get tested on their grade level instead of their function level and of course never meet standards. Not sure if I agree with the magnet school comment from the education expert. Couldn't the opposite happen too, and the magnet kids would get dragged down? Being the smart kid isn't necessarily the "cool" thing that everyone aspires to be.
Jude-C Jude-C 7 years
:hug: I'm sorry.It'll get better. And I hope you feel better once Mr. GS shows up with that ice cream.
Jude-C Jude-C 7 years
:hug: I'm sorry. It'll get better. And I hope you feel better once Mr. GS shows up with that ice cream.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
When they have no base for it. Just pure spite and ingrained meanness.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
I actually, in my hormonal state is the only reason I can think of, let this site make me cry today. That really told me something about it. About how just outright mean people can be to one another.
Jude-C Jude-C 7 years
Dude better get on that assignment, right?No problem, GS. It gave me a good chuckle.
Jude-C Jude-C 7 years
Dude better get on that assignment, right? No problem, GS. It gave me a good chuckle.
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
Ummm, someone get big blue on the phone, we need to send a truck to GS's house, fast!
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
Ummm, someone get big blue on the phone, we need to send a truck to GS's house, fast!
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
And thanks jude.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
And thanks jude.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
If you must. But I must say, with my mood today you probably won't get back your finger. And gravy aside, I am the Dude, you <b>IF YOU VALUE YOUR LIFE AND MANHOOD</b> would be in a better home position if you bring home a big Blue Bell Mint Chocolate Chip Ice Cream. I have just about had it today.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
If you must. But I must say, with my mood today you probably won't get back your finger. And gravy aside, I am the Dude, you IF YOU VALUE YOUR LIFE AND MANHOOD would be in a better home position if you bring home a big Blue Bell Mint Chocolate Chip Ice Cream. I have just about had it today.
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
GS, Can I poke you??;)
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
GS, Can I poke you?? ;)
Jude-C Jude-C 7 years
That's a great avatar, GS!
Jude-C Jude-C 7 years
That's a great avatar, GS!
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
lol, yup.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
lol, yup.
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