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Are People Falling Out of Love With Bill?

When Bill Clinton started stepping out for Hillary, some were worried people would be so fond of him, Hillary would get lost in the shuffle. According to this piece in New York magazine, that's not entirely the case. Are people falling out of love with Bill?

The piece grapples with learning to love Bill for his faults, ". . . despite all his sleazoid tendencies, he was, of course, a pretty good president—and he turned out to be an absolutely exceptional ex-president, the best of our lifetimes." And reconciling that relationship now, even positing the notion that the love might be lost because, ". . . Obama is the new, highly improved version of Bill Clinton." To see how far he's sunk,

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According to NBC News/Wall Street Journal polling, Bill Clinton’s approval rating since he left office have dipped to 32 percent, the most negatively people have felt about him in five years. But why would a man who presided over the greatest financial boom in our nation’s history face such enmity considering our present course?

It comes down to the sticky matter of truth. According to the piece, "Bill Clinton is our great living exemplar of Sam Goldwyn’s great epigram: If you can fake sincerity, you’ve got it made."

Do you think Bill is less than sincere? Have you loved and lost with Bill, or never loved at all? Do you think he's hurt Hillary's campaign? Do you wish he could run again?

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MissyCat MissyCat 8 years
Warning - opinions follow! You hear a lot that people tend to have strong views concerning Hillary; they either love her or despise her. And I never cared for Bill C. and I like his wife even less. But I think that he's hurt her campaign a lot and I really do hope that he keeps on stumping for her. Because I DO NOT want her as our President. Ever. Not in 2008 or any other year, for that matter. In an Obama vs McCain election I haven't decided yet who I'd go with but if she secures the Democratic nomination McCain definitely gets my vote. And I hear that from a lot of other folks too. Sorry to any Hillary fans, but I think your gal is a supremely dangerous woman who will drag our country down into a very bad place worldwide if she wins.
MissyCat MissyCat 8 years
Warning - opinions follow! You hear a lot that people tend to have strong views concerning Hillary; they either love her or despise her. And I never cared for Bill C. and I like his wife even less. But I think that he's hurt her campaign a lot and I really do hope that he keeps on stumping for her. Because I DO NOT want her as our President. Ever. Not in 2008 or any other year, for that matter.In an Obama vs McCain election I haven't decided yet who I'd go with but if she secures the Democratic nomination McCain definitely gets my vote. And I hear that from a lot of other folks too. Sorry to any Hillary fans, but I think your gal is a supremely dangerous woman who will drag our country down into a very bad place worldwide if she wins.
lula29 lula29 8 years
Bill Clinton is very charming, so much so people ignore all the policies that in many ways led us to the mess we're in now. I think back to NAFTA and Rwanda, and Welfare Reform (and the way I believe it demonized the image of poor, namely minority, women in order to get it passed, not to say it didn't need to be reformed, but I didn't like the madness with that method), and all the other financial scandals, and so many other things I'm probably not really all that knowledgeable about I realize there is a lot of reason to dislike Bill Clinton, and thus there is no love for him from me.
lula29 lula29 8 years
Bill Clinton is very charming, so much so people ignore all the policies that in many ways led us to the mess we're in now. I think back to NAFTA and Rwanda, and Welfare Reform (and the way I believe it demonized the image of poor, namely minority, women in order to get it passed, not to say it didn't need to be reformed, but I didn't like the madness with that method), and all the other financial scandals, and so many other things I'm probably not really all that knowledgeable about I realize there is a lot of reason to dislike Bill Clinton, and thus there is no love for him from me.
LaLa0428 LaLa0428 8 years
My "love" for him has definitely taken a hit lately thats for sure. But, I just flat out do not care for Mrs. Clinton at all anymore.
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 8 years
BTW, we should caption that picture heres mine In Bills voice of course "and this is how Monica and little bill used to say hello"
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 8 years
BTW, we should caption that picture heres mine In Bills voice of course"and this is how Monica and little bill used to say hello"
Daisie Daisie 8 years
My excitement to see Bill speak has not diminished, though I would say that if he were running for Prez I might even be more excited. He is still an excellent speaker and exudes natural charm. Though admittedly when I saw Bill a few weeks ago he seemed a bit tired - could have been a bad day, long day or perhaps it is because 6 weeks is a long time in that world! Contrast that with Hillary last week - I was super excited to see her and she looked radiant and well rested! I was more excited to see her and so lucky with my seats...3rd row! She is charming herself actually, I just don't think it comes through on screen and I don't know why. Admittedly, I don't think (as of right now) she will go down in history as one of the best orators...but her stance on issues important to me is what me a Hil Girl!
Daisie Daisie 8 years
My excitement to see Bill speak has not diminished, though I would say that if he were running for Prez I might even be more excited. He is still an excellent speaker and exudes natural charm. Though admittedly when I saw Bill a few weeks ago he seemed a bit tired - could have been a bad day, long day or perhaps it is because 6 weeks is a long time in that world! Contrast that with Hillary last week - I was super excited to see her and she looked radiant and well rested! I was more excited to see her and so lucky with my seats...3rd row! She is charming herself actually, I just don't think it comes through on screen and I don't know why. Admittedly, I don't think (as of right now) she will go down in history as one of the best orators...but her stance on issues important to me is what me a Hil Girl!
colormesticky colormesticky 8 years
Falling out of love would imply that I had some for him to begin with.
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 8 years
from what I know of Bill from the media, books i have read, hearing him speak, and public records...I have never liked the guy. I Do get a chuckle when i think of the SNL skits that Phil Hartman used to do of him, and i am grateful for all the cigar jokes he has supplied this country, thats about it.
em1282 em1282 8 years
I think Pickle summed it up nicely. :)Brandy--I have to agree with your opinion on his oration skills. Maybe it's just because deep down I'm still the dorky 13-year-old who was so psyched to be on speech team, but yeah...homeboy's got skillz. I'm not falling out of love with him in any way--I mean, my view of him while he was president was pretty realistic, I think--but I think it's kinda funny that people still have approval/disapproval ratings for him. His term ended and now he's stumping for Hilary--shouldn't the focus be on her ratings? (Obviously it's impossible for him to not draw attention to himself, but still...I also don't put much stock in "sincerity" when it comes to politicians or any public figure. When it comes down to it, elections are competitions, and people will say/do whatever they want to win.
em1282 em1282 8 years
I think Pickle summed it up nicely. :) Brandy--I have to agree with your opinion on his oration skills. Maybe it's just because deep down I'm still the dorky 13-year-old who was so psyched to be on speech team, but yeah...homeboy's got skillz. I'm not falling out of love with him in any way--I mean, my view of him while he was president was pretty realistic, I think--but I think it's kinda funny that people still have approval/disapproval ratings for him. His term ended and now he's stumping for Hilary--shouldn't the focus be on her ratings? (Obviously it's impossible for him to not draw attention to himself, but still... I also don't put much stock in "sincerity" when it comes to politicians or any public figure. When it comes down to it, elections are competitions, and people will say/do whatever they want to win.
tiff58 tiff58 8 years
I don't think that he has a sincere bone in his body, and hope to never see him speak in public.
syako syako 8 years
Brandy - I can die happy never ever seeing either of them speak in public.
BRANDYNICOLE730 BRANDYNICOLE730 8 years
No. Tell me you wouldn't jump at a chance to see him speak in public! His oration is awesome. That's why Obama is doing so well. Because when people hear him speak, it reminds them of the way Bill Clinton makes you feel when he speaks.
Schaianne Schaianne 8 years
Gotta say I lost all respect and "fell outta love" with Bill back when he was President. Since then, I've read where he and Hillary have been involved in many shady dealings, so that's pretty much clinched my dislike of both of them. Hillary's doing a fine job of making me disgusted with her, too.
siren6 siren6 8 years
Nicely said, Pickle.
siren6 siren6 8 years
Nicely said, Pickle.
pickle pickle 8 years
I think it's dangerous to fool yourself into thinking that you know who any of these public figures are. I kind of can't believe people really think they do. How can you possibly judge the sincerity of someone you've never met or the moral compass of someone who has teams of handlers/ speech writers/ PR people -- not to mention Secret Service -- deliberately positioned between you and them for just this purpose of filtering their image and access? To me, it's less important that I "know" who they really are and more so what they can accomplish, inspire, and represent. I liked Bill Clinton because he not only professed to share my values and ideas on public policy, but was able to use his term in office to implement a lot of them. That they turned out to be so beneficial to the country as a whole only reinforced my belief in what I think is right, not in who he is as a person. It doesn't mean that I don't expect people who share my values to be decent, likable, and honest. It just means that it doesn't preclude them from being good presidents if they aren't.I have a deep admiration and respect for President Jimmy Carter -- a man whose presidency wasn't exactly exemplary. But post-presidency, his accomplishments belie all of his political criticisms. No one who has heard him speak, read his books, or followed his Carter Foundation's progress could accuse him of being ineffectual, wishy-washy, or weak -- complaints that dogged him throughout his term.
pickle pickle 8 years
I think it's dangerous to fool yourself into thinking that you know who any of these public figures are. I kind of can't believe people really think they do. How can you possibly judge the sincerity of someone you've never met or the moral compass of someone who has teams of handlers/ speech writers/ PR people -- not to mention Secret Service -- deliberately positioned between you and them for just this purpose of filtering their image and access? To me, it's less important that I "know" who they really are and more so what they can accomplish, inspire, and represent. I liked Bill Clinton because he not only professed to share my values and ideas on public policy, but was able to use his term in office to implement a lot of them. That they turned out to be so beneficial to the country as a whole only reinforced my belief in what I think is right, not in who he is as a person. It doesn't mean that I don't expect people who share my values to be decent, likable, and honest. It just means that it doesn't preclude them from being good presidents if they aren't. I have a deep admiration and respect for President Jimmy Carter -- a man whose presidency wasn't exactly exemplary. But post-presidency, his accomplishments belie all of his political criticisms. No one who has heard him speak, read his books, or followed his Carter Foundation's progress could accuse him of being ineffectual, wishy-washy, or weak -- complaints that dogged him throughout his term.
KathleenxCouture KathleenxCouture 8 years
To each his/her own but IMO, although I'm a republican and found myself completely disgusted with Bill's "situation" while he was in office as well as a few other things but I've forgiven him and understand that no one is perfect. That being said, I think Bill is doing good things for his wife's campaign and whether or not people are falling out of love with him, they still listen to him because he's got something to say.
Berlin Berlin 8 years
Adoration of Bill & Hillary...right here:) Always & still going strong!
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 8 years
I ADORE Bill. :)
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 8 years
I ADORE Bill. :)
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