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Poll: Hillary's Attack Dog?

Poll: Hillary's Attack Dog?

With the primaries on both sides so cut-throat close, the slightest misstep threatens to knock candidates from one side of the razor's edge to the other. Though voters famously claim distaste for negative campaigning (and those who sling the mud) they can't help but remember the message.


Candidates naturally want the best of both worlds — they want to poke holes in their opponents' reputations, while seeming above the muck. Hillary has solved this problem lately by unleashing her husband, the only candidates' spouse who has the gravitas of having been there, and been gone long enough for nostalgia to set in. If he's shredding Obama, Hillary doesn't have to.

Maureen Dowd's column yesterday dubbed them, "The Two-headed Monster." Do you think outsourcing the dirty work to Bill is playing fair?

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piper23 piper23 8 years
Clinton = evil. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
hotstuff hotstuff 8 years
The Clinton's are starting to show their true colors!
lostkyte lostkyte 8 years
Bill is, and should be, a part of this campaign. There's just no getting around that he was a former president, and besides, the spouses of the other campaigners are also helping. However, his attacks on Obama are unwarranted. Hillary's campaign has let all sorts of comments slide, though she hasn't spoken directly against him. It's just as bad.
trésjolie1 trésjolie1 8 years
For Bill Clinton to bring Jesse Jackson up AGAIN today, and comparing him to Obama is really strange. Even the media had started to let this one go, but then he brought it up again.
Zahara-Pitt Zahara-Pitt 8 years
GO MCCAIN
Zahara-Pitt Zahara-Pitt 8 years
GO MCCAIN
piper23 piper23 8 years
Hillary and Bill will say and do anything to get back into the White House. That's what their opponents need to understand. They don't play fair. BTW - Just heard the Obama has won my state, go Obama! Can't wait to hear Hillary's consolation speech.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
This afternoon, Bill Clinton was asked what is says about Obama if it takes 2 people to work against him. Bill responded that Jesse Jackson had won that state twice before. Uhhh.....The question had nothing to do with race. Interesting that Bill went there.
TruleyQueen TruleyQueen 8 years
I do recall Obama playing on some of Hillary's alleged racially insentive remarks, which I think is completely out of line as well. To act like Obama has clean hands is naive. In fact, I'm disappointed in the democratic party. It has become more mudslinging on both sides than discussing the real issues at hand like the Iraq war, where our men are dying everyday, poverty, discrimination, health care. I think the Democratic Party should spend more time figuring out how to help America then sit there and call each other liers, likewise for us discussing the Obama-Clinton controversy.
TruleyQueen TruleyQueen 8 years
I do recall Obama playing on some of Hillary's alleged racially insentive remarks, which I think is completely out of line as well. To act like Obama has clean hands is naive. In fact, I'm disappointed in the democratic party. It has become more mudslinging on both sides than discussing the real issues at hand like the Iraq war, where our men are dying everyday, poverty, discrimination, health care. I think the Democratic Party should spend more time figuring out how to help America then sit there and call each other liers, likewise for us discussing the Obama-Clinton controversy.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
Interesting article grrrlyrebel! Thanks for sharing. :)
Jillness Jillness 8 years
Citizen, can you post the links I tried to post that were flagged...no porn, promise! ;)
grrlyrebel grrlyrebel 8 years
Hehehehe
trésjolie1 trésjolie1 8 years
Yes please prove us wrong Kay, with your facts. In which you haven't provided as of yet. Which makes it difficult to have a discussion, or at least a civilized one.. jeez.
flutterpie flutterpie 8 years
:NOTWORTHY: i have seen the light kay
popgoestheworld popgoestheworld 8 years
Q.E.D.
Kaysnowboarder Kaysnowboarder 8 years
Geez grow some chops and broadan your shoulders. No one is calling anyone names. Just saying there is a lot of whining going on. You can not have it both ways. Also, I think if Obama wants to play in the big leagues he better get use to it, especially when there are big issues and a national crisis around the corner. He brought up Walmart in the debate so he better beleive he is going to get it back. That is not the only thing he has brought up. Also, some people on this site never do their research and do not put out credible facts when discussing issues so it is hard to take them seriously in a debate - and that is a fact. I hope all of you are out volunteering - no matter who your candidate is and get involved in the democratic process. Then people will really take you seriously. Ok now we can all sing koombahya -spelling?
flutterpie flutterpie 8 years
"why did your two front runners spend two hours arguing about a dead man?" that is what my boyfriend asked me after the debates. the clintons have taken a page out of the karl rove handbook for presidential success, instead of focusing on the issues, focus on the weaknesses and for some reason likening yourself to reagan is a weakness. it bothers me that hillary is using bipartisianship to cut down obama "oh my god your like a republican, blah". doesnt hillary realize that she will never get the independent vote if she continues to position herself as the darling of the far left?
grrlyrebel grrlyrebel 8 years
Jonathan Chait puts it nicely and is backing up what some of us are trying to say: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-chait26jan26,0,7890763.column
popgoestheworld popgoestheworld 8 years
I think some of the banter in this thread is a perfect example of why politics in this nation are so screwed up. We can't even talk about an issue without calling people names. What does name calling do for anyone? All it does is increase the division that already exists between people with different beliefs. And it takes away from the issues because we end up investing time in being offended. There is absolute credibility in asking people to provide examples of Bill lying. However, in my opinion, that credibility is lost once you start name-calling. Why not leave it respectful, and still make a great point? It is possible, despite what many of our political leaders would have us think! :) And, onto the question at hand. I personally don't believe that Bill stumping for Hillary is the same as Oprah supporting Obama. I believe that endorsing a candidate is far different than coming out and speaking against an opposing candidate, especially if the statements are false. To me, that is an apples and oranges comparison. To another point, someone mentioned that if Bill wasn't speaking up, people would wonder why he's NOT supporting Hillary. I agree with you, but I also don't think that means Bill has to be so negative. He can be a great supporter talking about how amazing Hillary would be as president and leaving out the slander. If he were doing just that, I think people would respect it more. I actually saw a quote from Hillary yesterday that said she didn't want to play dirty, but that she just had to defend herself from Obama's dirty campaign attacks. That is just the sort of thing that makes me dislike her style of politics. She is trying to make it seem like Obama has been at her throat and that she's just a victim of his mudslinging. The reality is that both sides are playing politics, and whether it's justified or not, Hillary's camp is getting especially slammed for going after Obama. As with many things in politics, perception is everything. And I would certainly say this is hurting the Hillary camp more than helping it.
Kaysnowboarder Kaysnowboarder 8 years
Really is that the best you have? I would have to say - this is not the kind of wine you drink.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
"Poor Obama fans - they have to whine about something" I actually feel worse for the folks that have to insult people who may think differently than them. Now that is sad.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Vote2008/story?id=4162996 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/23/clinton-goes-after-obamas-republican-comments-in-radio-ad/ It is interesting that the first article gives Bill's quote, which is inaccurate, but they don't give the original Obama quote. The second article gives Obama's true quote, but they don't quote Bill's incorrect representation, only Hilary's newly modified one. The fact is, none the less, that Bill incorrectly quoted Obama, and then Hilary's campaign ran with that.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
There were several things that Bill said that were untrue. On Keith Oberman the other night, he played 2 sets of clips that showed Bill making reference to something Obama said...and then he would play the actual Obama clip of what he really did say. There were intentional misrepresentations. Here is one (I will post link in next comment):"Clinton said. "And then the next day he said, 'In the '90s the good ideas came out from the Republicans.' He never said that. He said, ""The Republicans were the party of ideas for a pretty long chunk of time there over the last 10, 15 years." There is a HUGE difference in these statements. Taken in context, Obama is saying that the Republicans have been an idea machine, while Democrats have not been as aggressive on getting their ideas to take hold. The biggest complaint during the Kerry and Gore elections was that Demcrats didn't stand for anything!! Of course they did, but that isn't what voters though as shown by 2 terms of Bush Jr. Obama was talking about the GENERAL ELECTION, and how to get a majority, not the policy that Regan passed. Regan got people to vote outside of their economic class, and that campaign strategy IS something that democrats should think about. It is so apparent by reading what he really said. I think to misrepresent the true context and to add the word "good" is certainly a lie. It should also be noted that after they were called on the lie, the Clinton campaign changed their wording and removed the radio ads from South Carolina.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
There were several things that Bill said that were untrue. On Keith Oberman the other night, he played 2 sets of clips that showed Bill making reference to something Obama said...and then he would play the actual Obama clip of what he really did say. There were intentional misrepresentations. Here is one (I will post link in next comment):"Clinton said. "And then the next day he said, 'In the '90s the good ideas came out from the Republicans.'He never said that. He said, ""The Republicans were the party of ideas for a pretty long chunk of time there over the last 10, 15 years."There is a HUGE difference in these statements. Taken in context, Obama is saying that the Republicans have been an idea machine, while Democrats have not been as aggressive on getting their ideas to take hold. The biggest complaint during the Kerry and Gore elections was that Demcrats didn't stand for anything!! Of course they did, but that isn't what voters though as shown by 2 terms of Bush Jr. Obama was talking about the GENERAL ELECTION, and how to get a majority, not the policy that Regan passed. Regan got people to vote outside of their economic class, and that campaign strategy IS something that democrats should think about. It is so apparent by reading what he really said. I think to misrepresent the true context and to add the word "good" is certainly a lie. It should also be noted that after they were called on the lie, the Clinton campaign changed their wording and removed the radio ads from South Carolina.
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