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President Bush Gave Up Golf Out of Respect to Soldiers

Yesterday, President Bush sat down with Politico and Yahoo! to discuss his golf game, emailing habits, and the Iraq War. Here are some of the highlights from the interviewee-in-chief:

  • What if a Democrat is elected? Bush's "doomsday scenario of course is that extremists throughout the Middle East would be emboldened, which would eventually lead to another attack on the United States."
  • On sacrifices he's making for the Iraq war? Bush gave up golf. "I didn't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the commander in chief playing golf. I feel I owe it to the families to be in solidarity as best as I can with them. And I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal."
  • To see how Bush answered a question from the online audience about whether he felt he had been misled prior to the invasion of Iraq,

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    • On Iraq Intelligence? "Do I think somebody lied to me? No, I don't. I think it was just, you know, they analyzed the situation and came up with the wrong conclusion."
    • Does he think that a nasty presidential campaign could turn to race? "My own judgment is, is that race will only enter in if it's provoked by the press."
    • And what about email and the google? Giving it up to avoid leaks, Bush said he looks forward to "e-mailing to my buddies. I can remember as governor I stayed in touch with all kinds of people around the country, firing off e-mails at all times of the day to stay in touch with my pals."

    I somehow look forward to seeing what "W" gets up to once he's out of the White House. Will he still make the news cycle? Do you think his popularity will rise, or stay desperately low as he fades into the Texas sunset?

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sxssxs1 sxssxs1 8 years
what a douchebag thousands are dying per day, both Americans and Iraqis, and he's just giving up a hobby of his?? He should do way more than that. As the president of the US, shame on him.
i-am-awesomeness i-am-awesomeness 8 years
He gave up golf... poor baby.
Kimpossible Kimpossible 8 years
I posted my last post before reading your last one. Yes, I have family members currently serving in the military. Yes, every male member and a few female members of my family have served in the military for the past 4 generations, however, even if that were not the case I would still feel very close to the military. I think it's important (for me) to understand the sacrifices that they make for my freedom. Your last post was certainly softer, not as threatening or pompous, thank you. I do agree with you that people join the military for all sorts of reasons, and this has been the case since the military has existed. This is not new because of 9/11 or the Bush administration. Have a good day at work! I too will be signing off soon, have to start the day.
Kimpossible Kimpossible 8 years
Also, I don't think there is anything wrong with people signing up to serve their country as a response to a terrorist attack on our soil, but to dumb them down by saying it's because of the fervor imposed on us by the current administration, is just disrespectful imo. But I see nothing wrong with people responding by wanting to help their country and fellow American's after a terrorist attack. No matter what words you use, you continue to sound like you're saying that people were tricked into serving. I would like to point out that people thought FDR tricked us into going to war with Japan too. And that people think the whole man walking on the moon thing was a big trick ochestrated by hollywood.
stephley stephley 8 years
I'll give them plenty of credit, many are fine people. But the military is made up of people just like the rest of us, no better no worse. Every time I criticize something about the military, I think it echoes more with you and Cabaker than with other people but IMO that's because you're close to it. But the fact is, people join for all kinds of reasons, including criminals looking to stay out of jail and impressionable high school kids. Not ignoring you after this, leaving for work.
Kimpossible Kimpossible 8 years
I still can't see where the administration got people so "over excited" that they would do something as seriously life changing as joining the military - all for the sake of excitement. And since recruitment is still up and strong, that's still because of 9/11 and because of this frenzy that the Bush administration has "imposed" on us? I'm not thrilled with the current situation in Iraq either, but I'm not going to dishonor our troops by making them sound like mindless individuals who can't think for themselves. (This may not be what you mean in your statements but that's what it sounds like to me). It just doesn't sound like you're giving our military men and women the credit they deserve for the choices they make to serve.
stephley stephley 8 years
I couldn't care less if you bow to me or not. Nor will I bow to you because you have or know someone who has a job with the military.
stephley stephley 8 years
It is a bad thing when there are lies at the base of the belief. We are at war in Iraq, a country that had no involvement in 9/11 and had no weapons of mass destruction - our involvement there has done as much to grow the terrorist movement and spread fear and hatred of the U.S. as it has anything good.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
Sorry Steph if I don't bow down to you, but until you live in this every day, I'll be taking the opinions of the people who do more seriously.
stephley stephley 8 years
Cabaker, you don't have a clue as to what I do today, or with whom I associate on a regular basis, or what their involvement is with the military and/or the government so you might want to be less arrogant in your assumptions.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
So why is that a bad thing?
stephley stephley 8 years
Kim, I didn't say brainwashed. To whip someone into a fervor is to get them over-excited. Many people who joined the military cite 9/11 - not just people who always intended to make the military their career, but others for whom it was a new idea were spurred by a sense that their country needed them to do something. The military apparently thinks there's a connection: Five Years After 9/11, Recruiting, Retention Remain Solid American Forces Press Service WASHINGTON, Sept. 12, 2006 – Five years after military recruiting hit the ceiling after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, recruiting remains solid, with every service meeting its active-duty recruiting goal for the 15th consecutive month. “The numbers also indicate that people out there understand that we are involved in a global war on terror and are making the decision to serve this country at this important time,”Marine Corps Maj. Stewart Upton, a Pentagon spokesman said.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
"I just can't believe that people actually think that our men and women who joined the military after 9/11 couldn't think for themselves, and that they were brainwashed into joining the military" Thank you Kim, that was my thoughts exactly. I like to give our troops more credit than that. Steph you said that you said specifically that they weren't tricked, but you also said they were stirred into a phony patriotism? So which is it? If you fall for something fake, which is what you are implying, then you got tricked. And sorry Steph, you may have been a journalist and your family might have been in the military years ago, but the people who are in it NOW and do this EVERYDAY know more than you do when it comes to this situation. It wouldn't hurt to be a little more humble.
Kimpossible Kimpossible 8 years
"...far more cynically, he, Rumsfeld and the others in the Administration whipped people into a phoney patriotic fervor so he could send them to war." so the administration manipulated people into joining the military after 9/11? I just can't believe that people actually think that our men and women who joined the military after 9/11 couldn't think for themselves, and that they were brainwashed into joining the military. I'm seriously just flabbergasted by your above statement. It boggles my mind that people actually think like this. I'm not judging you by the way, I'm just trying to wrap my mind around this... I can't seem to do it, I just don't understand.
stephley stephley 8 years
I read that this morning as well. That was some essay Olbermann did -I just now finished watching it. Breathtaking.
janneth janneth 8 years
I think it was Keith O. who implied tonight that Bush had to give up running and golf due to a knee or calf injury. Anybody else hear that?
stephley stephley 8 years
Nothing that you've just said makes any sense - we're not in court. "I do however know it (it what?) was an option (an option for whom to do what?) and I believe they (they who?) are smarter than to have been "swept into a patriotic fervor by unscrupulous people." (you can't swear anyone on the internet and we can't accept hearsay so what you believe is neither here nor there)
KJerabek KJerabek 8 years
Historically, the rule against hearsay is aimed at prohibiting the use of a person's assertion, as equivalent to testimony to the fact asserted, unless the assertor is brought to testify in court where he may be placed under oath and cross-examined. *My point with that is, you can't give me the wounded veterans opinion or what they "believe". As I would not come on here and tell you that my neighbor who was in Iraq believes bla bla bla. Because like you said I can't know everyone in the military and how they feel, just as you can't. I do however know it was an option and I believe they are smarter than to have been "swept into a patriotic fervor by unscrupulous people."
stephley stephley 8 years
Read more carefully KJ: I specifically said not tricked but rather swept into a patriotic fervor by unscrupulous people. And just because your husband is in the military doesn't mean you know everyone in it or everything about it. And what the heck does this mean? "You can't make a case with hearsay, that's why it's not allowed in the courts." Since hearsay is unverified, unofficial information, part of one's direct knowledge I'm not sure how it applies here. Are you talking about what the President says publicly being hearsay? Or what wounded veterans say being hearsay?
KJerabek KJerabek 8 years
"It is ridiculous for you to try and make the case that what the President of the United States says would have counted for less than what a recruiter might have said" and I think it's ridiculous for you to make a case from all these wounded soldier friends of your who were "tricked". It's funny how everyone has a friend who it happened to. My husband is in the military, therefore my neighbors are all in the military, and our friends are in the military, yet somehow I have never come across any of these cases. You can't make a case with hearsay, that's why it's not allowed in the courts.
em1282 em1282 8 years
Uh, my friend's not in the military grudgingly, and he's not a dumbass who was like "OK, I'll do this, but just for 9 months". He's a smart badass who went to West Point, and it's not like he's in the military for the glory. He wants to do it, but I really can't blame him for being a bit sick of leaving behind his family time and time again, especially after his brother almost got killed in Iraq. In fact, his brother jokes about it with him--"Well, step on an IED, and maybe you can stay at home!" Can you blame him for being a little tired of being shipped off? Until you know what that's like, I don't really think you can judge and say "Oh, well he reinlisted, tough toenails!" Also, America's gonna get attacked again no matter who is in office. It's just going to happen if some dumb moron with a big grudge feels like doing it.
stephley stephley 8 years
It is ridiculous for you to try and make the case that what the President of the United States says would have counted for less than what a recruiter might have said. It's not that he tricked - far more cynically, he, Rumsfeld and the others in the Administration whipped people into a phoney patriotic fervor so he could send them to war. I HAVE heard wounded soldiers say that they believed they were going over to liberate a country and that the people would be grateful to them. More than one has expressed surprise at how it turned out. Servicemembers are the average citizen. They aren't born into the military - most pop out of the civilian world for a couple of years, serve and then become civilians again. Sometimes they do heroic things. Cops die in the line of duty, teachers have been killed protecting students - self-sacrifice isn't just a military thing.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
Yes I did listen to that, but thats the news thats not recruiters speaking. So I don't think you can say that people who enlisted were somehow tricked into beleiving they would be walking into a great situation. Also the people who wanted to sign up after 9/11 did so with great conviction, not on a whim because conditions sounded good. Personally I've never heard anyone in the military say "well i only signed up to go over there once, be greated as a liberator and leave" Servicemembers tend to be far less self centered than the average citizen.
stephley stephley 8 years
Um Cab, did you listen to any of the President's pre-war speeches and news conferences? Did you ever listen to Rumsfeld? I can't blame you if you didn't, but they both said the quick war, liberators, pay for itself stuff. Repeatedly. It's part of the reason people are so angry now.
KJerabek KJerabek 8 years
Beautifully said Kim.
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