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Prolife Groups Plan Three-Day Protest After Dems Take Power

Without many of their own in national office, the prolife movement plans to relocate to grassroots activism and street- and abortion clinic-side protests. Beginning Jan. 21, the day after Barack Obama is sworn in, groups will hold a three-day protest in Washington, DC.

Speaking about prochoice gains in Congress and the defeat of various state-ballot measures that would limit abortion, Cecile Richards, the president of Planned Parenthood, said "The hardline, divisive tactics they've used have been resoundingly rejected. . . . I'd hope some of the folks on the right, if their goal is to reduce the need for abortions, would link arms with us."

But not all those dedicated to the prolife movement are ready to join hands with their previous adversaries. Sean O'Malley, the cardinal-archbishop of Boston, and longtime civil rights activist, is concerned about Obama's record on abortion. To see what strong words he had for Planned Parenthood at the opening of the US Conference of Bishops,

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Cardinal O'Malley described his feelings about the election of the first-black US president this week:

My joy, however, is tempered by the knowledge that this man has a deplorable record when it comes to prolife issues, and is possibly in the pocket of Planned Parenthood, which, in its origins, was a very racist organization to eliminate the blacks, and it's sort of ironic that he's been co-opted by them.

Considering last week's election results, do you foresee a future in which the prolife and prochoice movements work together to reduce the number of abortions?

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StolzeMama StolzeMama 7 years
And as long as states like mine (california) don't require counseling for women seeking abortions, don't require even a 24 hour waiting period to make sure that is what they want, and parental notification laws(my kid can't get an aspirin but can't have a major surgery without my knowing)we will continue to fight. It's not so much about taking away abortions because, damn it people, they are not going to overturn roe vs. wade, so get over that argument on both sides!!!!!!!
StolzeMama StolzeMama 7 years
no one is gonna take away your right to have an abortion, I don't even know why people bring this up... but when Barack Obama say that a baby that is "removed" (so you say jessie) doesn'at deserve to be treated medically when outside of the body, that is the kind of stuff most of us are fighting for... what would you say about that. And many abortions are not just simple removals from the body. If you see the signs that people hold up, the process of many abortions is not just a simple sucky-gun process... and what about partial birth abortions?? are you ok with that when that baby CAN live outside the womb. What about abortions after 26 weeks?? babies can survive at that point. I know many pro-lifers just want regulations. And the pro-choice argument many time is defending the exception. (rape/incest) I am absolutely fine with allowing them in those instances but they only equate to 1% of all abortions. That would be like saying that we cannot have speed limits because in rare instances you have to speed, say like rushing your kid to the hospital, so no safety for everyone else...
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 7 years
blah blah blah, recycled arguements and points. give us some new blood to spill please.
Roarman Roarman 7 years
"My beliefs on life will be said anywhere at anytime, just as your beliefs can be said. Because you do not agree with them, do not call me saying so, "pushing" them on other people." You are pushing your beliefs on other people by taking the option of abortion away from someone who may have had one. You don't have to have one, that is fine, but you shouldn't make that choice for someone else. "Also, it is not for me to say what to do with unwanted babies..." It is for you to say since your stance would cause many unwanted babies into this world. I would hope that pro lifers are avid supporters and participants of adoption. I know you did not get these people pregnant, and the focus should be on preventing unwanted pregnancies or supporting woman so they don't feel they need to have an abortion in the first place, but until that happens taking abortion out of the picture is going to lead to many babies living life out in the foster system. " I believe they made the choice when they had sex. And no matter the consequences, you need to face your choices" So you are for abortion in the instance of rape/incest? No choice was made in these cases to have sex.
darkangeldaria darkangeldaria 7 years
I personally am pro-choice, but I understand pro-life arguments (to a degree) and do not look down on anyone for an opinion. I think there should really be three groups in the abortion/anti-abortion debate. You have pro-choice, anti-abortion/pro-contraception, and the all out anti-abortion/anti-contraception wing. That is the segment of the pro-life opinion that I 100% do not agree with. Those that want to prevent access to contraception in addition to outlawing abortion. That to me is the most counterproductive segment of the group. But, that is the beauty of our country/constitution. WE have the ability/right to have these opinions, form them for ourselves and support our opinions in an open forum.
kranky kranky 7 years
Jill- In case you visit this thread again - the comment about rejecting lilkimbo's information that pro-lifers do not want to limit birth control was NOT directed at you. I whole-heartedly agree with you that Femists for Life seems like a wonderful organization.
Jessiebanana Jessiebanana 7 years
I didn't call you any names and I didn't say these people don't have a right to protest. All I said is that this is about belief. Belief on when life starts and all that. Most fetuses are aborted by the body without the mother ever knowing she was pregnant, this is a separate group from later miscarriages. Miscarriages can't be violent? You must be kidding and early term abortion can be a very simple sucky-gun process. Some miscarriages are horribly painful and emotionally traumatic. I never advocated unprotected sex. Where did I say that? My argument was that not everyone attributes "aware" life to a fetus without a nervous system. Your attribution of life is a belief not a fact, this is why the debate will go on forever. You have no more of a right to tell a woman not to have sex then you do to tell her she can't remove her fetus from her body. I think pro lifers will never win because a woman doesn't kill the fetus, she removes it from her body and its death is a result of that. fetus needs a host. It is dependent on her body, so it is her choice to let it stay and develop or to be rid of it.
laurelm laurelm 7 years
I dont think women are incubators. I believe they made the choice when they had sex. And no matter the consequences, you need to face your choices. If you think being pregnant is being an "incubator"- do not get pregnant. There are many consequences to having unprotected sex, getting pregnant is only one of them, and getting pregnant is the only one we can conveniently get rid of. Miscarriages are natural occurrences within the body, abortion is a violent procedure to abort a fetus (a life). The two are in no way comparable. My beliefs on life will be said anywhere at anytime, just as your beliefs can be said. Because you do not agree with them, do not call me saying so, "pushing" them on other people. I believe what is occurring is murder, just as I strongly am against other horrible things that occur in society- torture, rape, etc. And would express the same outrage. I am proud to say and stand for what I believe, even if it means close minded persons will call me names for doing so.
Jessiebanana Jessiebanana 7 years
"How about people use birth control, choose abstinence, choose adoption, or raise their child? I do not understand why getting rid of the problem by killing the baby is an answer?" Have you been on lil' sugar lately? Pregnancy isn't always easy. Women aren't just incubators. The fetus and birthing of a child cause serious damage to the body. I think it is a woman's choice whether or not they want to go through that. "Killing the baby" is subjective. I think it is terminating the fetus. Abortion removes the fetus from the body. The fetus can't survive on its own, it isn't a developed baby. Call me a cold scientific b*itch if you want but I don't think life starts at conception. Up to 80% of pregnancies are aborted by the body naturally. The body doesn't care about "life," it wants you to use your resources wisely and only for fetuses that have a good shot of making it to term. If you believe that life starts at conception that is fine, never "kill" a baby, but don't push your beliefs on "life" on other people. With that said I've never had an abortion, don't plan to bc is cheaper. I don't think most women plan to have an abortion it is a back up resource and I fully agree with Pink. Women will have them anyway. Keeping it legal makes it safe for women.
laurelm laurelm 7 years
No I would not be persuaded, just as much as I could not be persuaded that shooting your spouse is not murder. But showing the viewpoint that a life is being destroyed or the wonderful lives adopted babies are given, yes I believe and have seen people change their opinions. Also, it is not for me to say what to do with unwanted babies, but I would not propose putting them to sleep in response to people not taking responsibility for their actions. How about people use birth control, choose abstinence, choose adoption, or raise their child? I do not understand why getting rid of the problem by killing the baby is an answer?
Roarman Roarman 7 years
Laurelmn-could you ever be persuaded to be pro choice? To allow people to make decisions that impact their own life and not yours? What do pro lifers propose to do with these unwanted babies? Throw them in the mix with the other millions of children around the world who are waiting to be adopted? Don't get me wrong, I think abortion is a terrible thing, not to be taken lightly and I think most people don't. In a perfect world, all preganancies would be planned and wanted and birth control would be used when prenancy is not wanted. I personally wouldn't have an abortion, but far be it from me to make that decision for someone else. I for one know that I won't ever be persuaded to take a pro life stance.
Jillness Jillness 7 years
"lilkim present information that you have resoundingly rejected. Why?" What part of "that sounds like a great organization" is being rejectful???? You must have misunderstood what I was saying. There are some pro-life organizations that do discourage the pill, the unhindered prescription of the pill, and comprehensive sex education. Yes, not all of them are like that, and I was never trying to make the case that to be pro-life is to be anti-pill. I just think there is so much focus in the national discussion about where pro-lifers and pro-choicers disagree, and I think it would be beneficial for both sides to focus on where many of us agree.
UnDave35 UnDave35 7 years
Umm, what are we protesting now? :oy:
alynn28 alynn28 7 years
Well i have a comment for momma, but of course it got flagged and i have to wait for it to get posted. again.
StolzeMama StolzeMama 7 years
And Momma, the whole thing about the mom that left the baby to die, what the big deal (sarcasm.) die in the womb... die out of the womb.... (sarcasm.) They are still dead aren't they?
StolzeMama StolzeMama 7 years
Margaret Sanger may not be the woman people thought her to be, read this article http://www.ewtn.com/library/prolife/pphistry.txt It speaks of how the people of northern European decent ie. Sanger were afraid that their race would die because minorities were having so many children, while the Caucasians were having fewer. Some believed Caucasians should have more kids, she believed in making minorities have less...
momma-tikita momma-tikita 7 years
"Very well said. I feel the same way. It's puzzled me how Obama can support planned parenthood, and be so pro abortion that he makes Clinton look like a staunch pro lifer, when its sole purpose starting out was to eliminate the Black Community in America." Its sole purpose when it started out was not eliminate the black community... Planned Parenthood traces its origins to 1916 when Margaret Sanger opened the first American birth control clinic in Brooklyn, New York. The organization began as the American Birth Control League and was incorporated in 1923. The League was influential in liberalizing laws against birth control throughout the 1920s and 1930s As for the "elimniation of the black community... In 2007 Planned Parenthood in various states was subjected to a series of phone calls by students on the staff of a University of California, Los Angeles student-run magazine, The Advocate, run by a student pro-life organization. The calls included one in July 2007 to Planned Parenthood of Idaho offering a donation if it could be earmarked for abortions for black women because, "the less black kids out there the better." Answering the phone call, the organization's vice president of development and marketing said, "Understandable, understandable" and continued, "Excuse my hesitation, this is the first time I've had a donor call and make this kind of request, so I'm excited and want to make sure I don't leave anything out." Planned Parenthood of Idaho's CEO later issued a statement saying that the officer "violated the organization's principles and practices" and was suspended
alynn28 alynn28 7 years
"My joy, however, is tempered by the knowledge that this man has a deplorable record when it comes to prolife issues, and is possibly in the pocket of Planned Parenthood, which, in its origins, was a very racist organization to eliminate the blacks, and it's sort of ironic that he's been co-opted by them." Very well said. I feel the same way. It's puzzled me how Obama can support planned parenthood, and be so pro abortion that he makes Clinton look like a staunch pro lifer, when its sole purpose starting out was to eliminate the Black Community in America.
momma-tikita momma-tikita 7 years
Yet not all women are doing that...for whatever their reasons may be! its sad.
StolzeMama StolzeMama 7 years
but momma now they have safe haven laws in many states, so if a woman does that, knowing she can legally drop a baby off with no repercussions, to me that constitutes mental instability
StolzeMama StolzeMama 7 years
pink no one really said on here that there should be NO abortions. But to work together pro-lifers believe in regulating them and if pro-choice doesn't want to give on anything, which they obviously dont, then we will protest it. Just the same as protesting a war... there will be war no matter what you do, but it is protested anyways. And I find it hard to believe many women would throw themselves down a flight of stairs. and anyways maybe it might make women re think their current promiscuous lifestyles if they knew it would be harder (not illegal) to get an abortion, just a thought
momma-tikita momma-tikita 7 years
or worse..have the baby and dump it in the dumpster. I remember this one story in miami where a woman had the baby in a hotel room and left it there to die with the uterus still attached.
momma-tikita momma-tikita 7 years
very true Pink!
pinkmystic pinkmystic 7 years
Abortion clinics prevent women from hurting themselves... For women who use it as birth control... that's their problem... they are destroying their own body and their own psyche.
pinkmystic pinkmystic 7 years
If someone really doesn't want to have a child, then nothing you can do will stop them... they will find a way.... one way or another
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