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SAT Scores and Egg Donors

Is Anyone Actually Checking the SAT Scores of Egg Donors?

If height requirements, race preferences, and talent hopes (musical, athletic, coordinated) can be asked of egg donors, is it any wonder that intelligence is a consideration, too? But this week the Internet's aghast over how intelligence is being measured among potential egg donors: SAT scores. Never mind the fear of designer babies or the stem-cell debate, the real problem is what a horrible measure of intelligence standardized tests are. They are, however, an exceptionally easy thing to lie about!

Height and eye color are impossible to fake, and a special talent doesn't sound easy and/or worth it. But SAT scores? Who's to say. Only you can waiver their release, so if nobody's asking for transcripts or College Board results, then nobody knows. And considering the average payment increases $2,350 per 100 SAT points, there's a lot of incentive to fib.

So for those of you who have donated your eggs, or tried, tell us what the requirements were. Did you exaggerate any to seal the deal?

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Pistil Pistil 5 years
If American TV has taught me anything, it's that you get points just for spelling your name right.
danakscully64 danakscully64 5 years
SAT scores are a poor measure of intelligence. Come on, everyone here must have watched Saved By The Bell. Zack got a higher score than Jessie :p
tlsgirl tlsgirl 5 years
I don't know that SAT scores are a perfect measure of intelligence, just like BMI isn't a perfect measure of body fat, but I do think it at least ballparks it in some way. It did for me and most of the people that I spent time with. As for the intelligent children bit, I watched this documentary in a Developmental Psych class that explored the issue - it followed a group of families who had all chosen donors of extremely high intelligence and/or talent in some area such as music, and their kids were slightly smarter than normal (as measured by IQ), but not so much that it made an appreciable difference that couldn't also be explained by the generally enriching environment that they were growing up in. And I definitely would not have gone through the process without some kind of compensation. There's no way. It was much too time-consuming and invasive (in a physical way certainly, but also because you're required to be SO honest about yourself).
tlsgirl tlsgirl 5 years
I don't know that SAT scores are a perfect measure of intelligence, just like BMI isn't a perfect measure of body fat, but I do think it at least ballparks it in some way. It did for me and most of the people that I spent time with.As for the intelligent children bit, I watched this documentary in a Developmental Psych class that explored the issue - it followed a group of families who had all chosen donors of extremely high intelligence and/or talent in some area such as music, and their kids were slightly smarter than normal (as measured by IQ), but not so much that it made an appreciable difference that couldn't also be explained by the generally enriching environment that they were growing up in.And I definitely would not have gone through the process without some kind of compensation. There's no way. It was much too time-consuming and invasive (in a physical way certainly, but also because you're required to be SO honest about yourself).
xxstardust xxstardust 5 years
and clearly, I've proved my intelligence with all those typos! *focused and a few missing periods.
xxstardust xxstardust 5 years
I did do quite well on my SATs - I was a National Merit scholar - and only took them once. However, I'm the exception, not the rule - most everyone else I knew took them took them multiple timesAlso, they probably wouldn't have been commensurate with my high school grades; while I did get predominantly A's and a couple B's, our ranking system was heavily weighted towards math and science focuses students (we had 2 history and 1 English AP, but 11 math and science APs, which meant that if you didn't take enough AP classes you hit a GPA 'ceiling') so I ended up only ranking somewhere around 170. Not *that* bad for a class of almost 800, but certainly not what I felt I was capable of. I do think it measures up more accurately to how I've been able to handle my university-level work, as I do have an above average GPA now.As for how much intelligence is actually inherited - it's estimated that as much as 60% of our capability for intelligence is inherited, and that the gene expression for intelligence ties into the thickness of the myelin sheaths on nerves in the brain; the fattier/more protected they are, the faster impulses can fly. There's also a link between the amount of grey matter, relative to white matter, and intelligence - which also appears to be genetic. So the case for inheritable of intelligence - or at least inheritable *potential*, since culture can overcome just about any genetic predisposition - is definitely there.
xxstardust xxstardust 5 years
I did do quite well on my SATs - I was a National Merit scholar - and only took them once. However, I'm the exception, not the rule - most everyone else I knew took them took them multiple times Also, they probably wouldn't have been commensurate with my high school grades; while I did get predominantly A's and a couple B's, our ranking system was heavily weighted towards math and science focuses students (we had 2 history and 1 English AP, but 11 math and science APs, which meant that if you didn't take enough AP classes you hit a GPA 'ceiling') so I ended up only ranking somewhere around 170. Not *that* bad for a class of almost 800, but certainly not what I felt I was capable of. I do think it measures up more accurately to how I've been able to handle my university-level work, as I do have an above average GPA now. As for how much intelligence is actually inherited - it's estimated that as much as 60% of our capability for intelligence is inherited, and that the gene expression for intelligence ties into the thickness of the myelin sheaths on nerves in the brain; the fattier/more protected they are, the faster impulses can fly. There's also a link between the amount of grey matter, relative to white matter, and intelligence - which also appears to be genetic. So the case for inheritable of intelligence - or at least inheritable *potential*, since culture can overcome just about any genetic predisposition - is definitely there.
imLissy imLissy 5 years
Why even bother trying to measure intelligence if it's based on SAT scores and you can just lie? I guess they really don't have anything else they can go by. I didn't prepare for my SATs at all and got a little above average score while my friend took classes, took the test about 5 times and eventually got 300 points higher than me. She's definitely more persistent, but I wouldn't say she's smarter than me.
imLissy imLissy 5 years
Why even bother trying to measure intelligence if it's based on SAT scores and you can just lie? I guess they really don't have anything else they can go by. I didn't prepare for my SATs at all and got a little above average score while my friend took classes, took the test about 5 times and eventually got 300 points higher than me. She's definitely more persistent, but I wouldn't say she's smarter than me.
skigurl skigurl 5 years
i also live in Canada so we don't sell our eggs OR take the SATS...but i'm also willing to wager that SATs aren't the best measure of intelligence...of course they're an easy and comparable way to rate intelligence because it's a standardized test with a numerical score, but let's be honest - for all of you out there who have done the SATs, was your score an accurate reflection of your rank in your own schoool, a reflection of your own grades etc. etc.? there's a lot more to being "smart" than a standardized test
skigurl skigurl 5 years
i also live in Canada so we don't sell our eggs OR take the SATS...but i'm also willing to wager that SATs aren't the best measure of intelligence...of course they're an easy and comparable way to rate intelligence because it's a standardized test with a numerical score, but let's be honest - for all of you out there who have done the SATs, was your score an accurate reflection of your rank in your own schoool, a reflection of your own grades etc. etc.?there's a lot more to being "smart" than a standardized test
Pistil Pistil 5 years
It is "illegal to purchase eggs from a donor in Canada, or a person in Canada acting on behalf of a donor. However, it is legal to receive eggs as a gift and Canadian donors can be reimbursed for expenses incurred during the process of donation."Hm. I was considering donating one day after I saw an American ad on TV, but I didn't realize Canada had a different policy.How much of intelligence is genetic, anyway? I mean, if it was necessary for me to find a sperm or egg donor in order to have children, I'd want to know where/who they were coming from, but I wouldn't be planning on a star athlete or rocket scientist. It's not like children are genetic clones of their parents, it's still a gamble.
Pistil Pistil 5 years
It is "illegal to purchase eggs from a donor in Canada, or a person in Canada acting on behalf of a donor. However, it is legal to receive eggs as a gift and Canadian donors can be reimbursed for expenses incurred during the process of donation." Hm. I was considering donating one day after I saw an American ad on TV, but I didn't realize Canada had a different policy. How much of intelligence is genetic, anyway? I mean, if it was necessary for me to find a sperm or egg donor in order to have children, I'd want to know where/who they were coming from, but I wouldn't be planning on a star athlete or rocket scientist. It's not like children are genetic clones of their parents, it's still a gamble.
xgreenfairyx xgreenfairyx 5 years
In the UK, you can't actually get money for your eggs....its a shame, since I won't be using them, but I'm not willing to go through the process (which I hear isn't pleasant) without SOME kind of compensation. Them's breaks.
runningesq runningesq 5 years
At 5'1, no one wants my eggs !
tlsgirl tlsgirl 5 years
I went through almost an entire egg donor process and they never once asked my SAT scores.
xxstardust xxstardust 5 years
Wow, seriously? I could make some BANK, based on my SAT scores. Add to that that I'm a blue eyed, fair-haired white girl who's 5'6'' ... man, if only I didn't have a heritable blood disorder ...
bryseana bryseana 5 years
It all seems kind of shallow. You're supposed to love your children for who they are not because they're some genetic superstar.
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