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Should Unemployment Rates Impact Immigration Policy?

As the unemployment rate rises, so does the call for stricter immigration rules. Many Americans resent that they have lost their income while visaed foreigners bring home dollars, or even worse, while corporations illegally hire undocumented workers.

The issue showed up last week on CNN's Cafferty File. Jack asked whether a 7.6 percent unemployment rate meant it was time to change the immigration policy in America to keep jobs from going to millions of legal, and illegal, immigrants. One viewer said:

Halt all immigration until the unemployment rate is below 3 percent. Plus impose a 50 percent tax on all money sent back to home countries by noncitizens.

Columnist Thomas Friedman has a different take on it. He was wants an "open-door bailout." To see what that means,

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Friedman summed up the message immigrant business people want to send America:

Dear America, please remember how you got to be the wealthiest country in history. It wasn’t through protectionism, or state-owned banks or fearing free trade. No, the formula was very simple: build this really flexible, really open economy, tolerate creative destruction so dead capital is quickly redeployed to better ideas and companies, pour into it the most diverse, smart, and energetic immigrants from every corner of the world and then stir and repeat, stir and repeat, stir and repeat, stir and repeat.

Last year Bill Gates argued to Congress that allowing more foreigners to work in the US would not steal jobs away from Americans, but rather create more jobs for them. He said for each H-1B visa hire, four support employees are hired.

Do you think open immigration will help solve the economic crisis, or is it just part of the problem?

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dikke-kus dikke-kus 7 years
Immigration isn't hurting us. Globalization is though. I'm a graphic designer trying to get a job here. I'm a US citizen born and raised here. At my last interview I found out he company had been hiring Russians freelance at a cheap rate. They work out of their homes for $5.50 an hour and post files through the Internet. Maybe that's how they can be the land of millionaires. My rate is $20 and hasn't gone up in ten years. Keep in mind in April 15 I also pay 20% to the government. That means if I make 5,000 in freelance they take 1,000. If I make 10,000 they take 2,000. Meanwhile black is beautiful to that Russian guy and he never reports a dime of that money to his government. Now because of technology Russians and other poor countries are competing with me I am not sure how I can survive in my own country anymore. Unless I back down to $10 an hour which is around 20,000 a year. Ever live on that before?
dikke-kus dikke-kus 7 years
Immigration isn't hurting us. Globalization is though. I'm a graphic designer trying to get a job here. I'm a US citizen born and raised here. At my last interview I found out he company had been hiring Russians freelance at a cheap rate. They work out of their homes for $5.50 an hour and post files through the Internet. Maybe that's how they can be the land of millionaires. My rate is $20 and hasn't gone up in ten years. Keep in mind in April 15 I also pay 20% to the government. That means if I make 5,000 in freelance they take 1,000. If I make 10,000 they take 2,000. Meanwhile black is beautiful to that Russian guy and he never reports a dime of that money to his government. Now because of technology Russians and other poor countries are competing with me I am not sure how I can survive in my own country anymore. Unless I back down to $10 an hour which is around 20,000 a year. Ever live on that before?
MGMT MGMT 7 years
illegal alien what a silly term to use to describe someone, fact is America is based on and was created by illegal aliens !!!!!!!
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
lol, who are you telling to calm down?
emily_88_88 emily_88_88 7 years
I'm honestly not offended, I was just asking, because I thought it was weird. But, you say that you just copy/pasted directly, and I'll take your word for it-- no negative feelings.And, I know that's what Americans call it. And I know that mental r*tardation is the clinical name as prescribed by the american psychological association. I just wanted to give a DIFFERENT point of view, as viewed by Canadians. That's what we do, and what we feel comfortable with.Calm down!
emily_88_88 emily_88_88 7 years
I'm honestly not offended, I was just asking, because I thought it was weird. But, you say that you just copy/pasted directly, and I'll take your word for it-- no negative feelings. And, I know that's what Americans call it. And I know that mental r*tardation is the clinical name as prescribed by the american psychological association. I just wanted to give a DIFFERENT point of view, as viewed by Canadians. That's what we do, and what we feel comfortable with. Calm down!
Michelann Michelann 7 years
Long before 'alien' meant little green man from another planet, it meant person from another country. Where do you think the term came from? And "r*tarded" is not an un-PC term, it's the proper medical term. Some people seem to think it's rude just because a few people use it as a derogatory word. It's silly to let those people take the word over. If we change the word to "learning disability" (which by the way already means something else and does not fully describe mental r*tardation), then pretty soon the same uncouth people would take over that word too.
Michelann Michelann 7 years
Long before 'alien' meant little green man from another planet, it meant person from another country. Where do you think the term came from? And "r*tarded" is not an un-PC term, it's the proper medical term. Some people seem to think it's rude just because a few people use it as a derogatory word. It's silly to let those people take the word over. If we change the word to "learning disability" (which by the way already means something else and does not fully describe mental r*tardation), then pretty soon the same uncouth people would take over that word too.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
It was a copy paste of the whole definintion. If you look to be offended, you will be.
emily_88_88 emily_88_88 7 years
Look, I've got to confess. I'm a Canadian. (I think I'm allowed to be here?)In Canada, we don't say illegal alien. We say immigrant. It's just in our nature to not say those things. For example, we also don't say "mentally r*tarded". We say that people have learning disorders.You could argue that we're completely PC push-overs, and I'm fine with that.But you also have to agree that the main definition of the word "alien" brings to mind extraterrestrials. That's what most people think of when they think "alien". That's all.Finally, what's with giving the pronunciation and word origins for "alien"? It seems a bit... ostentatious, frankly.
emily_88_88 emily_88_88 7 years
Look, I've got to confess. I'm a Canadian. (I think I'm allowed to be here?) In Canada, we don't say illegal alien. We say immigrant. It's just in our nature to not say those things. For example, we also don't say "mentally r*tarded". We say that people have learning disorders. You could argue that we're completely PC push-overs, and I'm fine with that. But you also have to agree that the main definition of the word "alien" brings to mind extraterrestrials. That's what most people think of when they think "alien". That's all. Finally, what's with giving the pronunciation and word origins for "alien"? It seems a bit... ostentatious, frankly.
emily_88_88 emily_88_88 7 years
Look, I've got to confess. I'm a Canadian. (I think I'm allowed to be here?) In Canada, we don't say illegal alien. We say immigrant. It's just in our nature to not say those things. For example, we also don't say "mentally retarded". We say that people have learning disorders. You could argue that we're completely PC push-overs, and I'm fine with that. But you also have to agree that the main definition of the word "alien" brings to mind extraterrestrials. That's what most people think of when they think "alien". That's all. Finally, what's with giving the pronunciation and word origins for "alien"? It seems a bit... ostentatious, frankly.
emily_88_88 emily_88_88 7 years
Because you left out the obvious definition of alien, in which it means an extraterrestrial. If someone ran into my house and said, "Man, I just saw an alien in the backyard!" I'm going to guess... extraterrestrial creature, and not a person who was smuggled across the border in a suffocating cargo truck for 20 hours. I'm not saying you're wrong every single time you say illegal alien, I'm just saying that personally, I find it disrespectful for other humans. You definitely have the right to use whatever word you want to use to describe an illegal immigrant. I just personally prefer "illegal immigrant". It's an opinion. Also-- why did you post up the pronunciation and word origins of the word 'alien'? It seems a bit, ostentatious. Finally, I've got to confess something. I'm not American. I'm a Canadian. And here, like pretty much the rest of the English world, we don't say illegal alien. We say immigrant. Just like we don't say that people who have learning disorders as "mentally retarded", as the APA still uses. Of course, you can also argue that we're all lilly-livered PC suffragettes up here. Fair enough.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
How is it dehumanizing?
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
How is it dehumanizing?
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
Pronunciation: \ˈā-lē-ən, ˈāl-yən\ Function: adjective Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin alienus, from aliusDate: 14th century1 a: belonging or relating to another person, place, or thing b: relating, belonging, or owing allegiance to another country or government : foreign c: exotic 2: differing in nature or character typically to the point of incompatibility
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 7 years
Pronunciation: \ˈā-lē-ən, ˈāl-yən\ Function: adjective Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin alienus, from alius Date: 14th century 1 a: belonging or relating to another person, place, or thing b: relating, belonging, or owing allegiance to another country or government : foreign c: exotic 2: differing in nature or character typically to the point of incompatibility
emily_88_88 emily_88_88 7 years
foxie, good to hear, and I hear you. I find that the majority of the time, people just like arguing with each other. Also, I'm glad that people don't say it here, but you know what irks me so much? When people say "illegal aliens". Saying that these people are 'aliens' are literally de-humanizing these people and is wrong. I don't get hung up too much on being PC, but I just wanted to put it out there that it bothers me. Cheers!
emily_88_88 emily_88_88 7 years
foxie, good to hear, and I hear you. I find that the majority of the time, people just like arguing with each other.Also, I'm glad that people don't say it here, but you know what irks me so much? When people say "illegal aliens". Saying that these people are 'aliens' are literally de-humanizing these people and is wrong. I don't get hung up too much on being PC, but I just wanted to put it out there that it bothers me.Cheers!
StolzeMama StolzeMama 7 years
Our imigration policy should benefit us. Only bringing in the cream of the crop. Especially at this time.
foxie foxie 7 years
@ emily- I'd hope not too, but the posters of TeamSugar never cease to amaze me with the things they argue for/against.
skb9850 skb9850 7 years
One of the problems with England's economy is all the workers coming from the poorer UE nations. They are there legally, but willing to work for less because it's still more than what they were making in their own country. Unless we want our own situation to get even worse, immigration needs to be controlled. And I'm not saying we don't let anyone in, we do still need immigration and immigration reform to make the process easier. However, we should reduce the number of immigrants allowed to enter while our economy recovers.
skb9850 skb9850 7 years
One of the problems with England's economy is all the workers coming from the poorer UE nations. They are there legally, but willing to work for less because it's still more than what they were making in their own country. Unless we want our own situation to get even worse, immigration needs to be controlled. And I'm not saying we don't let anyone in, we do still need immigration and immigration reform to make the process easier. However, we should reduce the number of immigrants allowed to enter while our economy recovers.
mydiadem mydiadem 7 years
StolzeMama StolzeMama 7 years
Hypno, that is the point of a migrant worker.
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