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Six Gay Men Shot and Killed in Iraq

Sadr City, Baghdad is popular among gays in Iraq. But that doesn't mean it's safe for them. Over the last 10 days, six gay men have been shot and killed following a tribal meeting where members decided to target the homosexuals within their tribe.

If you're gay in the Middle East you are most likely breaking the law in whichever country you find yourself. In Iraq, homosexuality is punishable by seven years in prison. Under the religious militias in Iraq, which rose in influence following the US invasion, the situation has become increasingly dangerous.

An anonymous official in Sadr City described one of the killings without a trace of remorse, saying: "Two young men were killed on Thursday. They were sexual deviants. Their tribes killed them to restore their family honor."

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MartiniLush MartiniLush 6 years
The practice of honor killings is a cultural one, not a religious one. Middle Eastern Christians also commit honor killings. The practice has existed since before Islam or Christianity came on the scene. And Dave, I have to go with Steph and Em on this one - you need to check your math on the peaceful Muslims being in the vast minority.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 6 years
There are vast intermingled reasons for the out come of such a tragedy. Yes religion has a strong hand in it. Christianity as stated above says verbatim to put such people to death (comment 17). Just because the actual act of violence comes down to the individuals choice in the moment doesn't let religion off the hook. People need to wake up and understand what they're following.
em1282 em1282 6 years
I'd love to have met every single Muslim in the world and make those same calculations, Dave! Yeah, the topic was on Islam, but people kill each other all the time. Anyone wanna talk about how many girlfriends and wives are killed every day here in America? Yeah. I love my country, but that doesn't mean that effed up sh!t doesn't happen here, too.
stephley stephley 6 years
Dave, you might want to recheck your math on violent Muslims.
metallicnymph metallicnymph 6 years
this is so saddening.
UnDave35 UnDave35 6 years
"Why do we always have to blame a RELIGION when the adherents do horrible things? " Because it seems like the predominant excuse for doing these horrible things is rooted in their religion, and it's not a small percentage of the religion exhibiting this behavior. It's more like the "peaceful" Muslims are the very VAST minority. :shrug:
zeze zeze 6 years
I couldn't have said it better Martini - seriously, I tried, and it came out all sorts of bad!
stephley stephley 6 years
:THUMBSUP: Martini & Zeze.
MartiniLush MartiniLush 6 years
Why do we always have to blame a RELIGION when the adherents do horrible things? I think (from the comments here) we can see that violence and intollerance can be found in every religion. It is what someone chooses to take from that religion that makes the difference. I know many Muslims (Christians and Jews as well!) who are the most peaceful, kind people that exist. And I know others who are pretty intollerant and cruel. Both claim their behaviors are based on their religious beliefs. I think that many times people behave as they wish, then seek to find justification for that behavior in their religious beliefs. Once they find a scripture or verse that seems to backup what they want, they pluck it out and use it for verification, or twist scripture to meet their definitions. It isn't the religion, it is the people and they way they put their interpretation of their religion into practice. (at least IMO!)
zeze zeze 6 years
My point, Splork, is not really about Christianity and homosexuality, I was just pointing out that just because this happened in Islam doesn't mean you can scoff at it being a religion of peace, because violent, homophobic actions exist in all religions - while remaining "peaceful" in the eyes of most people - therefore the same standard should be applied to Islam. I believe it is relevant to bring up the fact that other religions remain peaceful despite their violence while Islam is not given the same benefit.
Carrie-Sue Carrie-Sue 6 years
"and I personally consider shooting someone to be in major violation of that warning...but maybe that's just me." Okay, I should really clarify that was sarcasm :)
Carrie-Sue Carrie-Sue 6 years
Gosh, I wish I had the time to answer this the way I want to... That's the reason I brought Jesus into the equation. The OT is full of rules about virtually everything considered a sin. When Jesus came, he died to cover the sins of the world, past present and future. That doesn't give us the right to do whatever we want, it just gives us grace in the times that we fail. But there's a strong warning against those of us who judge others for their failings, and I personally consider shooting someone to be in major violation of that warning...but maybe that's just me. I'm not going to condone what the Bible says is a sin, but neither will I take judgement into my own hands.
Roarman Roarman 6 years
"Violent religion? Not towards others...not if you're acting under the example Jesus set for us in the New Testament." Many choose to believe the Old Testament, which did call for homosexuals to be put to death, as pointed out by Zeze "Leviticus 20:13 says, “If there is a man who lies with a male as though to lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act, and they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them.” "
Carrie-Sue Carrie-Sue 6 years
Zeze, it's true that the Bible states that homosexuality is a sin. No where does it condone that sort of behavior, though. Those people who take that sort of action are acting against the whole foundation that is Christianity. Violent religion? Not towards others...not if you're acting under the example Jesus set for us in the New Testament.
babaloo babaloo 6 years
The topic was on Islam. I commented on Islam. I read and hear from people ad nauseum about how peaceful the religion is. How misunderstood it is. Yet they have little tolerance for human rights. I will be happy to voice my opinion (and will) on other religions when the subject matter warrants the discussion.
Myst Myst 6 years
good points zeze and hypno.
zeze zeze 6 years
*Christianity and Judaism are also not religions of peace then. **(Would LOVE an edit button TEAMSUGAR)
zeze zeze 6 years
Splork...by your reasoning, Christianity and Judaism are are so no religions of peace then. Let's not pretend Islam is the only religion that has gay rights issues. How many homosexuals are shot/beaten every day in the US in the name of Christianity - does that make Christianity a violent religion, or does that make Christians violent. This last February a state Senator from Colorado, Scott Renfroe, made this statement: "Homosexuality is seen as a violation of this natural, created order. And it is in a sense to God, the creator, who created men and women, male and female, for procreation. Leviticus 18:22 says, “You shall not lie with a man as one lies with a female. It is an abomination.” Leviticus 20:13 says, “If there is a man who lies with a male as though to lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act, and they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them.” Then Romans 1:18: “For the wrath of God is revealed from Heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteous men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness.” And that’s what we’re doing here. We’re suppressing the truth. The truth is what the family was created for in the beginning. That is the a husband, a wife, and children. And that is why we are here, and this goes against that. And this is just a continuation of the traction of the family." Bottom line, all of the three big religions have issues with homosexuality. We should avoid jumping at every chance we get to call Islam a violent religion.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 6 years
Honor killings deep rooted in religious culture in the middle east certainly should be no surprise to any of us. The more publicised incidents happen to be violence upon women. The only thing that makes this worse IMO is that their actions were more or less sanctioned by the government who look the other way. Although it's been quite some time since the days when our government looked the other way the U.S. is sadly still no stranger to violence and homicide upon homosexuals so the next time you may happen to wonder why homosexuals here are so vigilant in the demand of equal protection and rights here is yet another dark stain to add to the backdrop.
Myst Myst 6 years
In Iran gays are hanged and their bodies are left out for display to remind people pf what can happen. Just a basic accusation can be used for justification for these types of barbaric acts.
starangel82 starangel82 6 years
Sad. It drives me mad when tribal killings are justified by 'restoring family honor'. I know that's how the see it and that's what they truly believe, but it's so archaic. I just can't understand it.
babaloo babaloo 6 years
Such wonderful displays of tolerance from a supposed "peaceful" religion.
genesisrocks genesisrocks 6 years
Very sad. What a tragedy.
clarabelle98 clarabelle98 6 years
This is just sad. There isn't any other way to say it. :(
Jessiebanana Jessiebanana 6 years
Yeah I'm going to have to scratch Afghanistan and Pakistan off my vacation list as well. This is why it's so important to keep personal beliefs and government separated. I don' want to hear anything positive about people being shot for any reason except self defense.
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