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Sotomayor Keeps Inspiring Outrageous Statements


“Hispanic polls, Hispanic surveys, indicate that Hispanics think just like everyone else. We’re not like African-Americans. We think just like everybody else."

— This quote comes from Manny Miranda, who's heading the conservative opposition to Judge Sotomayor. He was discussing how Sotomayor's appointment will influence Hispanic voters in a recent speech.


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MixedPerfectly MixedPerfectly 7 years
hold up,,,,, no she didnt
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 7 years
There are two ways to take this statement which I'm sure was tenderly sliced with care from with in a much larger body of text. She clearly either said it disparagingly which I doubt or she was simply saying we're not like this group or that group we're like every one. But instead of speaking universally she pointed out another group which yes on the surface makes it sound racist. She definitely has some explaining to do on this one but I would wait to read the entire body of text around this statement and hear her explanation before I render judgment.
Symphonee Symphonee 7 years
* office does suscribe*
Symphonee Symphonee 7 years
The problem with his quote is that he is inferring that all African Americans going for a seat on the bench or a place in office do not subscribe to the "Black Agenda"
Symphonee Symphonee 7 years
I read the entire quote and I just read the comments and I while I do understand what some are saying, This is just a bad quote in context or out of context. Just as foolish as the quote she made.
mermei mermei 7 years
He's not a politician - he's a former aide who does not have any real leadership in the Republican Party, and whose last campaign against a nominee was focused on Harriet Miers, though then he got a lot of support from both sides. The "Third Branch Conference" he chairs is just him. That whole "heading conservative opposition" thing is more than a bit of a stretch. It's a pretty stupid thing to say, but my interpretation of it is the same as above - he goes on to talk about there being no specific "Hispanic" agenda; I think he's trying to compare that to those who would argue that there is a specific "African American" agenda. BTW, rivrchild, Sotomayor has said variations of her "wise latina woman" statement several times: http://tinyurl.com/qorvrl
margokhal margokhal 7 years
Oh wow I DID read the article wrong. Miranda is saying that. It doesn't change what I was saying, though. I stand by that.
margokhal margokhal 7 years
Oh wow I DID read the article wrong. Miranda is saying that. It doesn't change what I was saying, though. I stand by that.
michaeluvnikita michaeluvnikita 7 years
Why are we born with skin? Every freaking thing that is wrong with the world is due to skin and those who have egos concerning others skin.
GKitty GKitty 7 years
It is a common belief that African Americans will vote for a candidate solely because they are black. He is insinuating that Latinos are different because they are more ethnically diverse (Afro, Indian, Spanish mix). African American didn't go for Clarence Thomas, so his theory is faulty.
rivrchild rivrchild 7 years
Ah ha. Found the full lecture by Sotomayor that contains the "wise Latina woman" quote. The specific quote in question appears on this 5th page: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us/politics/15judge.text.html?pagewanted=5&_r=2
rivrchild rivrchild 7 years
Ah ha. Found the full lecture by Sotomayor that contains the "wise Latina woman" quote. The specific quote in question appears on this 5th page:http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us/politics/15judge.text.html?pagewanted=5&_r=2
rivrchild rivrchild 7 years
Amanda-la, I haven't heard her quoted as saying that "a latina woman would be better than a white woman in court." I have read her quoted as thus: “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,” That quote in itself is taken out of context wherever I read/hear it. I cannot seem to find a full speech any where right now so if anyone knows where I can find it, please let me know.
rivrchild rivrchild 7 years
Amanda-la, I haven't heard her quoted as saying that "a latina woman would be better than a white woman in court." I have read her quoted as thus: “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,” That quote in itself is taken out of context wherever I read/hear it. I cannot seem to find a full speech any where right now so if anyone knows where I can find it, please let me know.
rivrchild rivrchild 7 years
Yes, it's taken out of context, but that's why the article link is there. What I'd like to know is whether the Washington Independent is taking Miranda's comment out of context? Miranda is addressing the issue of whether or not Republicans will isolate Hispanic voters by being against Sotomayor. The "huh??" part of this statement is that he seems to imply that African-Americans don't think like "everyone else" i.e. aren't concerned about the things the issues that everyone else is concerned about. Why he even feels the need to make this distinction is beyond me. Perhaps if I read more of his statements I would have a better understanding?
Amanda-La Amanda-La 7 years
I originally thought she had said it too but on the news last night they quoted HER as saying that a latina woman would be better than a white woman in court. Excuse me? Racist!
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 7 years
I meant He, but put she, but still Tres to take this quote out of context is bad form.
Love-and-Sex Love-and-Sex 7 years
Hi everyone. She is not the one saying it. Manny Miranda is.
rivrchild rivrchild 7 years
Or maybe I am confused? It seems to me from the title of this article ("Sotomayor inspiring outrageous statements") that she's not the one making the statement in quotes here. Anyone else get what I'm saying?
rivrchild rivrchild 7 years
Wait a second. After reading some of your comments, I'm just wondering - you all do realize that this quote is from Manny Miranda, a male Republican against the appointment of Sotomayor, right? It's not a quote from Sotomayor herself. It's just that a lot of you are referring to "she meant to say" and I'm just trying to make sure we're all on the same page here. Frankly, I read the article that was linked here and I'm still a bit confused myself as to what Mr. Miranda meant by this comment.
margokhal margokhal 7 years
Really Tres, the context here is CRUCIAL to the understanding of what EXACTLY this quote means. I read the article, and understand what she meant to say. I somewhat agree. When people are nominated or in the process of being elected, many racial minority groups (particularly the most vocal subset, like Jesse Jackson or Rev. Al Sharpton for African-Americans) tend to focus on "what is this person going to do to improve conditions or problems that seem to affect our cultural group the most?" This is most often termed the "racial agenda". They ask, "what's the Black agenda? The Hispanic agenda?" [see the article and the sentences in the quote for Sotomayor talking about this]. What she means, I think, is that when people call her and ask what is a person's "Hispanic agenda", that there is no different way of thinking or of opinion than other racial groups. Everyone wants the same things [even African-Americans, even though there are some unique problems in the group that should be addressed] - better schools, better government, security, etc. African-Americans are just seen as being more vocal and "different" in political opinions by the public.Even though, the article points out that in the last Court nomination of Sam Alito, African-Americans and Hispanics were both evenly split about letting him in or not. There were more African-Americans who had no opinion, though.
margokhal margokhal 7 years
Really Tres, the context here is CRUCIAL to the understanding of what EXACTLY this quote means. I read the article, and understand what she meant to say. I somewhat agree. When people are nominated or in the process of being elected, many racial minority groups (particularly the most vocal subset, like Jesse Jackson or Rev. Al Sharpton for African-Americans) tend to focus on "what is this person going to do to improve conditions or problems that seem to affect our cultural group the most?" This is most often termed the "racial agenda". They ask, "what's the Black agenda? The Hispanic agenda?" [see the article and the sentences in the quote for Sotomayor talking about this]. What she means, I think, is that when people call her and ask what is a person's "Hispanic agenda", that there is no different way of thinking or of opinion than other racial groups. Everyone wants the same things [even African-Americans, even though there are some unique problems in the group that should be addressed] - better schools, better government, security, etc. African-Americans are just seen as being more vocal and "different" in political opinions by the public. Even though, the article points out that in the last Court nomination of Sam Alito, African-Americans and Hispanics were both evenly split about letting him in or not. There were more African-Americans who had no opinion, though.
TheStyleElite TheStyleElite 7 years
i think they are hating on her .Men can't take the fact that she will take their spot and are trying to make her look bad. on the other hand i think she mean to say that Latinos don't think that everything happends to them because of their race. Latinos don't think "oh that happend to me because i'm Latino" like many African-American do. Latinos don't have that resentment towards life. an please do read the whole article before coming to conclusions :)
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 7 years
Well i love how quickly everyone takes that quote as something evil, have any of you ever heard of not reading into something and not automatically just assuming the worst? guess not.
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