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Study Pegs Beginning of AIDS — 100 Years Ago

Despite assertions that AIDS is a government conspiracy (recently by Rev. Jeremiah Wright) a new study released in the journal Nature yesterday, pinpoints the origin of the disease 100 years ago. The new finding shifts the origination back in time from the previous estimation of 1930. Though the 100 year finding isn't a huge shift, researchers say, "It means the virus was circulating under our radar even longer than we knew." It wasn't widely recognized by US public health officials until 1981.

Scientists say that HIV morphed from a chimpanzee virus, likely in southeast Cameroon, jumping to humans probably in the butchering process. Tellingly, the new "birthdate" of the disease coincides with the rise of cities in Africa, a proximity of humankind that allowed infected people to pass it along. This study used 100 modern samples to create a family tree, traceable back to the samples' last common ancestor.

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wackdoodle wackdoodle 7 years
Actually CatapillarGirl - I want to say SiouxieSue [love S&B]- the children weren't of Africa descent and the cases weren't in Africa but Sweden or Denmark. They were white children, they were "war babies" born to White European mothers and a cross section of White European or American military men.I have got to find the Journal it was in - but it was in a Pathology Journal from either late last year or early this year.The research discovery received no fanfare except in Sweden.
wackdoodle wackdoodle 7 years
Actually CatapillarGirl - I want to say SiouxieSue [love S&B]- the children weren't of Africa descent and the cases weren't in Africa but Sweden or Denmark. They were white children, they were "war babies" born to White European mothers and a cross section of White European or American military men. I have got to find the Journal it was in - but it was in a Pathology Journal from either late last year or early this year. The research discovery received no fanfare except in Sweden.
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 7 years
ilanac, you should read the book.
ilanac13 ilanac13 7 years
i saw 'and the band played on' in school and i think that there's so much more to the story than what they even showed there. i'm always intrigued to find out that this is a disease that's been around longer than anyone knew and that there ARE cases of people who've 'had' it but no longer have traces in their bodies. i'm all for medical advances, and i'm not sure that tracing it's origin will help unless they can see how it started to know how to end it. it's like 'i.am.legend.' they created the disease, so do they know how to fix it?
N-e-e-c-a-l-l-e N-e-e-c-a-l-l-e 7 years
I agree that some "conspiracy" theories are out there...but I dont think we should brush them all off as just that. I just believe whole heartedly in looking at everything critically, and accepting that just because we're told to believe something by the media or by government officials doesn;t mean its the truth. Has anyone seen Zietgiest?? Its a documentary you can find on google video. Its one of the most eye opening and interesting documentaries i have ever seen, whether or not you believe in everything it says its kind of neat to get another point of view... not just the point of view given by the news stations that are owned by giant corporations with vested intrest in what we think/believe
N-e-e-c-a-l-l-e N-e-e-c-a-l-l-e 7 years
I agree that some "conspiracy" theories are out there...but I dont think we should brush them all off as just that. I just believe whole heartedly in looking at everything critically, and accepting that just because we're told to believe something by the media or by government officials doesn;t mean its the truth.Has anyone seen Zietgiest?? Its a documentary you can find on google video. Its one of the most eye opening and interesting documentaries i have ever seen, whether or not you believe in everything it says its kind of neat to get another point of view... not just the point of view given by the news stations that are owned by giant corporations with vested intrest in what we think/believe
Roarman Roarman 7 years
I loved "And the band Played On", it was a great look at how the AIDS epidemic was portrayed in America. Some of these conspiracy theories are way out there.
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 7 years
There is a made for TV movie called "and the band played on" based on a bestselling novel of the same title, its an amazing look at the beginning of HIV AIDS in america.....
N-e-e-c-a-l-l-e N-e-e-c-a-l-l-e 7 years
I saw a very compelling documentary (I can't remember the name) that told the story of an american doctor who was sent to Africa to test a vaccine for a specific disease and had to test it on people who have never been vaccinated before...hense sending him to Africa. It also said that the disease contained something from chimpanzee's..not sure if it was blood or tissue or something else. Regardless, this film was deeming this was the beginning of AIDS. And myself, I don't find it too difficult to comprehend that there was an ulterior motive behind this..I tend not to put too many things past the government...what can I say, I have trust issues.
N-e-e-c-a-l-l-e N-e-e-c-a-l-l-e 7 years
I saw a very compelling documentary (I can't remember the name) that told the story of an american doctor who was sent to Africa to test a vaccine for a specific disease and had to test it on people who have never been vaccinated before...hense sending him to Africa. It also said that the disease contained something from chimpanzee's..not sure if it was blood or tissue or something else. Regardless, this film was deeming this was the beginning of AIDS. And myself, I don't find it too difficult to comprehend that there was an ulterior motive behind this..I tend not to put too many things past the government...what can I say, I have trust issues.
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 7 years
and if i read correctly those patients in sweden were from west africa. So much for the government creating it right?
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 7 years
and if i read correctly those patients in sweden were from west africa. So much for the government creating it right?
wackdoodle wackdoodle 7 years
Need to sleep "The medical researchers found samples of children in a hospital in Sweden and neither in Europe that were from 100 years ago." This should say "The medical researchers found samples of children in a hospital in Sweden and other parts of Northern Europe that were from 100 years ago."
wackdoodle wackdoodle 7 years
Need to sleep "The medical researchers found samples of children in a hospital in Sweden and neither in Europe that were from 100 years ago." This should say "The medical researchers found samples of children in a hospital in Sweden and other parts of Northern Europe that were from 100 years ago."
wackdoodle wackdoodle 7 years
I had read this in a medical/science journal about two months ago, it was amazing. The medical researchers found samples of children in a hospital in Sweden and neither in Europe that were from 100 years ago. Some of the children died outright from whatever "mystery disease" they had developed in-utero while a number of them did not die and actually seemed to develop a natural immunity to the disease. At first the researchers thought they were infected with the deadly form of influenza but the time line didn't fit. When current researchers looked at the samples of the virus theses children were afflicted with and the symptoms the sick children had they were shocked and then tests revealed that indeed these children from 100 years ago - these orphaned war babies had HIV or AIDS. The most interesting thing was the children who survived the disease and whose bodies appear to have cured them of the HIV infection. I know there are questions as to whether these once infected children had children of their own and carried a gene or actually spread the active HIV virus to their children. With some of the children not developing the disease while other again never developed HIV or AIDS but carried on the dormant virus. It truly is mind boggling and very freaky and throws a whole new perspective on where and how long this virus has been around mutating and adapting to humans.
wackdoodle wackdoodle 7 years
I had read this in a medical/science journal about two months ago, it was amazing. The medical researchers found samples of children in a hospital in Sweden and neither in Europe that were from 100 years ago. Some of the children died outright from whatever "mystery disease" they had developed in-utero while a number of them did not die and actually seemed to develop a natural immunity to the disease. At first the researchers thought they were infected with the deadly form of influenza but the time line didn't fit. When current researchers looked at the samples of the virus theses children were afflicted with and the symptoms the sick children had they were shocked and then tests revealed that indeed these children from 100 years ago - these orphaned war babies had HIV or AIDS.The most interesting thing was the children who survived the disease and whose bodies appear to have cured them of the HIV infection. I know there are questions as to whether these once infected children had children of their own and carried a gene or actually spread the active HIV virus to their children. With some of the children not developing the disease while other again never developed HIV or AIDS but carried on the dormant virus.It truly is mind boggling and very freaky and throws a whole new perspective on where and how long this virus has been around mutating and adapting to humans.
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