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Top News Stories 2008-07-17 07:00:47

Front Page: Doping Team Quits Tour, Madrid Bombing Convicts Freed, Obama Behind Republicans in Money

  • Doping Team Quits Tour:
    After a third team rider tested positive for blood-doping, the Italian Saunier-Duval team withdrew from the Tour de France this morning. Rider Riccardo Ricco was found using EPO. The team director said, "He's our leader, we can't act as if nothing happened." Ricco was taken off the Saunier-Duval team bus by police ahead of the start of the day's race and booed by spectators. He was in ninth place overall before being removed.
  • Madrid Bombing Convicts Freed:
    Spain's Supreme Court overturned the conviction of four people found guilty of connection to the 2004 Madrid train bombings. The four were part of 21 people convicted over the attacks, which left 191 dead. The court also upheld the acquittal of the suspected Egyptian mastermind as he'd already been convicted of the crime in Italy. The attackers were part of a local Islamist militant groups inspired by al Qaeda.
  • Obama Behind Republicans in Money:
    Democrat Barack Obama raised $52 million last month (his second best take) ending June with the DNC and Obama with $92.3 million in the bank. Though the numbers still fall behind the Republicans and McCain. McCain raised more than $22 million in June (his best take) and combined with the RNC, Republicans start July with $95 million to spend.

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True-Song True-Song 8 years
So, is there any virtue in public financing if there aren't restrictions on the party?
syako syako 8 years
don't bite the hand that feeds you?
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
I definitely agree; I feel like they will give to whomever is in power!
zeze zeze 8 years
Thanks kimbo, businesses will follow their best interest and it's not unlikely that these interests shift from side to side over time.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
Here's another (although this is from a random blog, so I don't know about the accuracy): http://socialistworker.org/2008/04/11/big-business-switches-sides
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
Oh, I figured as much, zeze. That comment wasn't really directed at you, but at the way people use the word in general. Here's an article about the shift in business money: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1007/6359.html
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
Oh, I figured as much, zeze. That comment wasn't really directed at you, but at the way people use the word in general.Here's an article about the shift in business money:http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1007/6359.html
zeze zeze 8 years
I know what you mean about lobbyist, but that's political lingo - everything has to have a good/evil spin on it so our human brain can categorize it with ease! The reason I mentioned them is b/c Obama has talked about not taking money from them and that might matter a lot b/c they are exactly the type of organization that cares very much who gets elected and put their money to work.I don't know about the big business going blue, but my dad has a few small businesses and he seems to favor Republican politics (at least where money is concerned).
zeze zeze 8 years
I know what you mean about lobbyist, but that's political lingo - everything has to have a good/evil spin on it so our human brain can categorize it with ease! The reason I mentioned them is b/c Obama has talked about not taking money from them and that might matter a lot b/c they are exactly the type of organization that cares very much who gets elected and put their money to work. I don't know about the big business going blue, but my dad has a few small businesses and he seems to favor Republican politics (at least where money is concerned).
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
I did a quick scan of Obama's latest report as well. He has 32,998 pages of 17a's (which are the receipts from individuals on the report he files). It averages out to about $221.35. Just to put it out there.By the way, I couldn't imagine filing a report for either of these committees; they are way too long!
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
I did a quick scan of Obama's latest report as well. He has 32,998 pages of 17a's (which are the receipts from individuals on the report he files). It averages out to about $221.35. Just to put it out there. By the way, I couldn't imagine filing a report for either of these committees; they are way too long!
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
And you'd be surprised about celebrities giving a lot. I will have to find it for you, but I distinctly remember reading something awhile back that listed a slew of celebs who had maxed out to Obama. I also think it's important to note that lobbyists have been bundling for Obama (there's nothing wrong with that, but they have) and that "big business" has been giving less and less to Republicans and more and more to Democrats.Also, on a side note, I hate how lobbyists are so demonized. Without lobbyists, a whole lot less would get done. I think a lot of people misunderstand what they do.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
And you'd be surprised about celebrities giving a lot. I will have to find it for you, but I distinctly remember reading something awhile back that listed a slew of celebs who had maxed out to Obama. I also think it's important to note that lobbyists have been bundling for Obama (there's nothing wrong with that, but they have) and that "big business" has been giving less and less to Republicans and more and more to Democrats. Also, on a side note, I hate how lobbyists are so demonized. Without lobbyists, a whole lot less would get done. I think a lot of people misunderstand what they do.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
Correction, about half of their money came from PAC's. WAY fewer than half of the contributions did.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
Interestingly, only about half of the RNC's contributions on their most recent report came from PAC's. A lot of individuals give to the RNC, and a lot give small amounts. I scanned a few pages of the report and it looks like the vast majority of the RNC donors are individuals giving small (less than $100) amounts. They have 7,279 pages of 11a's (receipts from individual donors), which puts their average receipt from an individual at about $520.43. The large receipts obviously bring the average way up.
zeze zeze 8 years
Absolutely, he gets most of his donation from normal people, on average doating less than $75 (I think) and with the economy these days a lot of people can't afford to donate every month.Celebrities are all talk I think, most of them care too much about their lives to really care about politics, politics is a trend to them since they really aren't effected by it with the luxury of being able to live anywhere and do anything - not all of course, but for the most part my opinion is that they wear the political t-shirt not knowing more about it then its size - lobbyist and corporations on the other hand have a lot more at stake and a lot more interests in the matter and will likely give a lot more to make sure things turn out in their favor.
zeze zeze 8 years
Absolutely, he gets most of his donation from normal people, on average doating less than $75 (I think) and with the economy these days a lot of people can't afford to donate every month. Celebrities are all talk I think, most of them care too much about their lives to really care about politics, politics is a trend to them since they really aren't effected by it with the luxury of being able to live anywhere and do anything - not all of course, but for the most part my opinion is that they wear the political t-shirt not knowing more about it then its size - lobbyist and corporations on the other hand have a lot more at stake and a lot more interests in the matter and will likely give a lot more to make sure things turn out in their favor.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
Yeah, it's $28,500 for parties. Although, I'm pretty sure Jane Fonda, Ben Affleck, and Spike Lee have the money. :PAnyway, I do think it's interesting that the fund raising is somewhat even now, when you combine everything. I think Obama's suffering from the drawn out primary.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
Yeah, it's $28,500 for parties. Although, I'm pretty sure Jane Fonda, Ben Affleck, and Spike Lee have the money. :P Anyway, I do think it's interesting that the fund raising is somewhat even now, when you combine everything. I think Obama's suffering from the drawn out primary.
zeze zeze 8 years
WOW! 28K by one person can be donated to the party! I didn't know that, I assume it's the same for Democrats - but they don't have the lenders the that kind of cash, right?Either way, it seems like Obama will make up the difference from the party donations since his numbers are so crazy. I would have really like to see them campaign with 100k each and no outside help (Moveon/Swift boat, etc..)!Auntie Coosa, you must always have a headache, don't you?
zeze zeze 8 years
WOW! 28K by one person can be donated to the party! I didn't know that, I assume it's the same for Democrats - but they don't have the lenders the that kind of cash, right? Either way, it seems like Obama will make up the difference from the party donations since his numbers are so crazy. I would have really like to see them campaign with 100k each and no outside help (Moveon/Swift boat, etc..)! Auntie Coosa, you must always have a headache, don't you?
Auntie-Coosa Auntie-Coosa 8 years
Tour de France loses Italian Team? You know that a LOT of young people are going to say "no big deal" to their use of enhancing drugs. When kids in the USofA can get jolts of caffeine straight from an aluminum can, what's a little enhancing drug? The USofA is creating a secondary "legal" drug culture. Problem is that once there's no zap with the caffeine, they'll look for something stronger. We have only ourselves (collectively) to blame. WHERE ARE THE MATURE ADULTS???I would like to follow the money in Spain to see exactly why these criminals were freed. I'm sure there's more to this than meets the eye.So Obama-Nation's money is slowing down? Maybe because people are wondering what other Marxist he's funding besides his cousin, Raila Odinga, in Kenya, to whom he gave a million dollars which allegedly came from his donations, as he doesn't have a million dollars in his personal account. Of course, Barry Obama may have been laundering money from one Marxist to another, but that's pure conjecture. WHERE did that million dollars come from? Barry Obama has a LOT of questions to answer. And without his actual birth certificate, people don't know for sure if they've been throwing their money away on a man who is not eligible to be President of the USofA. Freedom of Information Act has been used to solicit Barry Dunham Soetoro Obama's Hawaiian Birth Certificate, IF he really was born in Hawaii. His Step-Father, Lolo Soetoro, registered him in school in Jakarta, Indonesia, as "Barry Soetoro, Indonesian Citizen, Islam Religion." True Barry Obama didn't have any control over that, but he has never addressed the issue and straightened it out. He ignores it. And inquiring minds want to know WHY?
Auntie-Coosa Auntie-Coosa 8 years
Tour de France loses Italian Team? You know that a LOT of young people are going to say "no big deal" to their use of enhancing drugs. When kids in the USofA can get jolts of caffeine straight from an aluminum can, what's a little enhancing drug? The USofA is creating a secondary "legal" drug culture. Problem is that once there's no zap with the caffeine, they'll look for something stronger. We have only ourselves (collectively) to blame. WHERE ARE THE MATURE ADULTS??? I would like to follow the money in Spain to see exactly why these criminals were freed. I'm sure there's more to this than meets the eye. So Obama-Nation's money is slowing down? Maybe because people are wondering what other Marxist he's funding besides his cousin, Raila Odinga, in Kenya, to whom he gave a million dollars which allegedly came from his donations, as he doesn't have a million dollars in his personal account. Of course, Barry Obama may have been laundering money from one Marxist to another, but that's pure conjecture. WHERE did that million dollars come from? Barry Obama has a LOT of questions to answer. And without his actual birth certificate, people don't know for sure if they've been throwing their money away on a man who is not eligible to be President of the USofA. Freedom of Information Act has been used to solicit Barry Dunham Soetoro Obama's Hawaiian Birth Certificate, IF he really was born in Hawaii. His Step-Father, Lolo Soetoro, registered him in school in Jakarta, Indonesia, as "Barry Soetoro, Indonesian Citizen, Islam Religion." True Barry Obama didn't have any control over that, but he has never addressed the issue and straightened it out. He ignores it. And inquiring minds want to know WHY?
Jillness Jillness 8 years
The problem zeze, is that Republican party is a fund raising powerhouse. I believe you can donate up to $28,000 to a party vs. a candidate...they usually do very well with the very large donors. I think that Obama will do very well with the fundraising, but it won't be easy.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
The problem zeze, is that Republican party is a fund raising powerhouse. I believe you can donate up to $28,000 to a party vs. a candidate...they usually do very well with the very large donors. I think that Obama will do very well with the fundraising, but it won't be easy.
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