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Breastfeeding moms looking to avoid jail time might want to switch their kids to bottles if they're hitting the bottle themselves. A mother in North Dakota was arrested recently for breastfeeding while intoxicated. Police said that they could have arrested the drunk mother for endangering her child even if she wasn't breastfeeding, but is it really fair to arrest a mom for being drunk? Perhaps there's something more going on here.

A visibly drunk woman seems to violate deep-seated expectations of how a "lady" should be well-behaved, fragile, or conventionally maternal. For example, the insatiable fascination with misbehaving starlets and their clubbing antics isn't extended to their male counterparts.

Do you think you judge drunk women more harshly than men who overindulge in alcohol?

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Autumns_Elegy Autumns_Elegy 6 years
If a drunk parent is with their child, then thats just not cool. If you want to go out and get sloshed then organise someone to take care of your babe until you're sober enough to be responsible around them.I don't see how gender should come into it..
Autumns_Elegy Autumns_Elegy 6 years
If a drunk parent is with their child, then thats just not cool. If you want to go out and get sloshed then organise someone to take care of your babe until you're sober enough to be responsible around them. I don't see how gender should come into it..
tlsgirl tlsgirl 6 years
I'm turned off by wasted members of either sex. It's just not attractive.
RockAndRepublic RockAndRepublic 6 years
I'm equally turned off by a man doing a drunk roll.
SeaAre86 SeaAre86 6 years
While it may be true that women have to put up with more than men, I think that that should be a different story...I have read that alcohol remains in the breastmilk for a very short amount of time (ie, if the mother is DRUNK and breastfeeding, it will pass to the child). It will leave the system as it leaves the mother's. If this is true, that is certainly child endagerment.Male or female... drunk and caring for a child is NOT okay. Drunk is drunk... and I think that getting angry just because she is a female is crazy.
SeaAre86 SeaAre86 6 years
While it may be true that women have to put up with more than men, I think that that should be a different story... I have read that alcohol remains in the breastmilk for a very short amount of time (ie, if the mother is DRUNK and breastfeeding, it will pass to the child). It will leave the system as it leaves the mother's. If this is true, that is certainly child endagerment. Male or female... drunk and caring for a child is NOT okay. Drunk is drunk... and I think that getting angry just because she is a female is crazy.
clew001 clew001 6 years
i agree with the poster cakeshinigami
Hiding55 Hiding55 6 years
I agree that this is a bit of a silly question. A person who is drunk and responsible for caring for a child is obviously in the wrong whether they are male or female. I don't know how much alcohol is secreted in breast milk but it doesn't seem like a good idea to me. In general, I don't think there's any difference between an intoxicated man or woman. Drunk is drunk. I def don't look down on women who like to get their drunk on once in a while. It's legal and as long as you are responsible about it it's ok to let loose once in a while.
Hiding55 Hiding55 6 years
I agree that this is a bit of a silly question. A person who is drunk and responsible for caring for a child is obviously in the wrong whether they are male or female. I don't know how much alcohol is secreted in breast milk but it doesn't seem like a good idea to me. In general, I don't think there's any difference between an intoxicated man or woman. Drunk is drunk. I def don't look down on women who like to get their drunk on once in a while. It's legal and as long as you are responsible about it it's ok to let loose once in a while.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 6 years
*caring for children. (not carrying) ;)
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 6 years
I think the article and the question are clearly different matters. The article addresses mothers w/children and the question addresses the perception of intoxicated women in general two very different things to me. As for mothers w/children if they're are in the act of breast feeding or carrying for their children with no other sober adult around then yes I believe that is child endangerment. As for women in general who do not not have an infants lips locked on her breasts I think it's pretty clear that they get it worse then men especially if they're a sloppy drunk. I can't stand sloppy drunks as far as I can throw them. I've dropped friends for sloppy drunkeness. If you're gonna drink with me you gotta hold your liquer case closed. I am not gonna be responsible for your stumblin and dribblin, lol.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 6 years
I think the article and the question are clearly different matters. The article addresses mothers w/children and the question addresses the perception of intoxicated women in general two very different things to me. As for mothers w/children if they're are in the act of breast feeding or carrying for their children with no other sober adult around then yes I believe that is child endangerment. As for women in general who do not not have an infants lips locked on her breasts I think it's pretty clear that they get it worse then men especially if they're a sloppy drunk. I can't stand sloppy drunks as far as I can throw them. I've dropped friends for sloppy drunkeness. If you're gonna drink with me you gotta hold your liquer case closed. I am not gonna be responsible for your stumblin and dribblin, lol.
MeiGaku MeiGaku 6 years
i really don't care if people drink, and sometimes, you just want to get drunk to let go of all the stress and pressures of life. but these officers were right in saying that she could've been arrested--not because she was a woman, but because she was a drunk with a baby. that's dangerous whether you're a man, a woman, or both! WHY would anyone in their right mind bring a child along while drinking? it's called a babysitter.
LittleMzFit LittleMzFit 6 years
I don't like the sight of either one (male or female), especially if a child is involved!!! What mother would breastfeed while drinking??? That's insane. I shudder @ the thought. Alcohol should be respected. If someone cannot handle it they need to stay away from it. I used to think total abstinence was the answer, but now I've gone back to what my mother always taught us, moderation is key.
cakeshinigami cakeshinigami 6 years
Women have to deal with more crap than men in every category of life.
staple-salad staple-salad 6 years
I agree with margokhal.I think this is more a case of "visibly intoxicated parent with child" rather than someone discriminating against women. And like it or not, women come with breasts that feed their babies and men don't. I think it's only a very rare case where an intoxicated man will be breast feeding his child, and with all the stuff that breast milk can pick up from the body, I don't think boozy milk is a goodthing for a baby.I drink, but only at parties, and only because I'm weird and like the taste. I hate being drunk, and I've seen all the terrible things alcohol can do to a person (my dad's an alcoholic, and I've seen the life of one of my neighbors litterally torn to shreds because of drinking). I don't care about the gender of someone drinking, drinking is bad no matter who you are or what you have in your pants.
staple-salad staple-salad 6 years
I agree with margokhal. I think this is more a case of "visibly intoxicated parent with child" rather than someone discriminating against women. And like it or not, women come with breasts that feed their babies and men don't. I think it's only a very rare case where an intoxicated man will be breast feeding his child, and with all the stuff that breast milk can pick up from the body, I don't think boozy milk is a goodthing for a baby. I drink, but only at parties, and only because I'm weird and like the taste. I hate being drunk, and I've seen all the terrible things alcohol can do to a person (my dad's an alcoholic, and I've seen the life of one of my neighbors litterally torn to shreds because of drinking). I don't care about the gender of someone drinking, drinking is bad no matter who you are or what you have in your pants.
margokhal margokhal 6 years
There's a couple of things to consider.One: A radical feminist (according to a sociology book I used in college, not sure if it's the ACTUAL accepted term or not) might use this example to further the point that gender has caused social confict and the oppression of women. The very fact that women have the ability to give birth and nurse has provided more stereotypes of how ladies and mothers should behave, and it's an inequality that men simply don't have to deal with. Separating childbirth from women would be the best way to get rid of these inequalities (according to the text I read), or getting rid of the notion of gender altogether. I don't think this is best way to look at it, but it is one. Two: I don't know much about the effects of alcohol on breast milk, but it is a logical possibility that the alcohol ingested could infiltrate the breast milk and harm the child (because I'm pretty sure alcohol in any form is not good for a infant). If the mother is possibly breastfeeding the child, that could be considered child endangerment. After reading the story, a highly intoxicated adult should not be allowed to care for a child period. If it was serious enough to call the police, then yes, I think they were right. I personally don't judge drunk men or women differently. I've never been drunk, and I think it's a waste of time, money, energy and it's just plain stupid for anyone to be drunk, regardless of gender. And it's something that is (most of the time) fairly easily controlled.
margokhal margokhal 6 years
There's a couple of things to consider. One: A radical feminist (according to a sociology book I used in college, not sure if it's the ACTUAL accepted term or not) might use this example to further the point that gender has caused social confict and the oppression of women. The very fact that women have the ability to give birth and nurse has provided more stereotypes of how ladies and mothers should behave, and it's an inequality that men simply don't have to deal with. Separating childbirth from women would be the best way to get rid of these inequalities (according to the text I read), or getting rid of the notion of gender altogether. I don't think this is best way to look at it, but it is one. Two: I don't know much about the effects of alcohol on breast milk, but it is a logical possibility that the alcohol ingested could infiltrate the breast milk and harm the child (because I'm pretty sure alcohol in any form is not good for a infant). If the mother is possibly breastfeeding the child, that could be considered child endangerment. After reading the story, a highly intoxicated adult should not be allowed to care for a child period. If it was serious enough to call the police, then yes, I think they were right. I personally don't judge drunk men or women differently. I've never been drunk, and I think it's a waste of time, money, energy and it's just plain stupid for anyone to be drunk, regardless of gender. And it's something that is (most of the time) fairly easily controlled.
Bodhar Bodhar 6 years
I really really don't think this situation has anything to do with gender. It has to do with a visibly drunk parent caring for their infant.
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